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will sinatraa realistically ever be signed again? he most likely doesnt want to play for a tier 2 team but will any tier 1 team risk tarnishing their image just to potentially win valorant championships?

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zacklikethat123
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he will be eventually providing the case doesnt show anything else

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It’s not just what sinatraa wants, there are lots of other factors such as: riot, other teams/players not wanting to play him, org being kicked from vct, potential for the case to open up again, ect…

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Think of sinatraas case as an indefinete vac ban. No team currently wants him since its risky for sponsors and riot alike.

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m8te [#3]

It’s not just what sinatraa wants, there are lots of other factors such as: riot, other teams/players not wanting to play him, org being kicked from vct, potential for the case to open up again, ect…

trust me people will cancel him and the org which takes him in , which is sad so no org will take him so sad such good talent is being wasted

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turkey
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no, too big of an org pr issue not worth it

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SETSUZA
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there are orgs that don't give a fuck about bad pr

i wouldn't be surprised if we he see him competing next yr

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WONDERWEISS
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this again...

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BetoJr7
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why he have bad reputation?

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HardStuckGold
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Its the internet, people forget things quickly, wait a couple more months then literally noone will talk abt it and thrn he will come hack

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BetoJr7 [#9]

why he have bad reputation?

rape

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BetoJr7 [#9]

why he have bad reputation?

He was accused of rape by his ex-girlfriend. He was banned for 6 months by Riot because of it. Then during the court case, his ex-girlfriend did not even show up to court and also deleted all of her social media and went off the grid. Basically, his reputation got ruined for something he most likely did not do seeing as she did not show up to court AND deleted all of her socials.

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YvngKurry
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radicalrishab [#12]

He was accused of rape by his ex-girlfriend. He was banned for 6 months by Riot because of it. Then during the court case, his ex-girlfriend did not even show up to court and also deleted all of her social media and went off the grid. Basically, his reputation got ruined for something he most likely did not do seeing as she did not show up to court AND deleted all of her socials.

There is solid evidence including voice recordings that he did something tho? You can’t say it was false accusations if there is solid physical evidence.

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SpaceCow
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turkey [#11]

rape

*accusation

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TSMLiquidFan
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HardStuckGold [#10]

Its the internet, people forget things quickly, wait a couple more months then literally noone will talk abt it and thrn he will come hack

not with companies

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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn
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Can we not get 3 of these threads per day

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CoffeeAndCannabis
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YvngKurry [#13]

There is solid evidence including voice recordings that he did something tho? You can’t say it was false accusations if there is solid physical evidence.

15s clip out of context... jesus please never be a lawyer or judge, you have no notion of what can and can't be considered "solid physical evidence"

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CoffeeAndCannabis
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qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#16]

Can we not get 3 of these threads per day

Agreed, make it 4

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LifeIsALie
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CoffeeAndCannabis [#17]

15s clip out of context... jesus please never be a lawyer or judge, you have no notion of what can and can't be considered "solid physical evidence"

LMAO dumbass you think someone on vlr.gg with 4 stars could ever be a lawyer? KEKW

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YvngKurry
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CoffeeAndCannabis [#17]

15s clip out of context... jesus please never be a lawyer or judge, you have no notion of what can and can't be considered "solid physical evidence"

You can’t know that lol. We can’t say if it was out of context or in context. Also Cleo said she had more evidence. I’m not sure why she stopped the trial/accusation so we have to believe sinatraa is innocent but it’s hard to believe that kind of a clip could be taken out of context.

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CoffeeAndCannabis
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YvngKurry [#20]

You can’t know that lol. We can’t say if it was out of context or in context. Also Cleo said she had more evidence. I’m not sure why she stopped the trial/accusation so we have to believe sinatraa is innocent but it’s hard to believe that kind of a clip could be taken out of context.

That's the thing, I don't think we "have to believe sinatraa is innocent". I'm just against getting to a conclusion without enough information/evidence. I disagree with people saying he's innocent, I disagree with people saying he's guilty. All I'm saying is WE DON'T KNOW so don't conclude anything, that's just being ignorant.

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YvngKurry
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CoffeeAndCannabis [#21]

That's the thing, I don't think we "have to believe sinatraa is innocent". I'm just against getting to a conclusion without enough information/evidence. I disagree with people saying he's innocent, I disagree with people saying he's guilty. All I'm saying is WE DON'T KNOW so don't conclude anything, that's just being ignorant.

Yea lol I never said anything abt him being guilty or innocent but based on our current knowledge we can only say he’s in the clear. either I just said that there was some incriminating evidence. 🤝

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CoffeeAndCannabis [#17]

15s clip out of context... jesus please never be a lawyer or judge, you have no notion of what can and can't be considered "solid physical evidence"

Voice recordings can become evidence though. But u cant say its solid because u need to check the evidence legit or not in court

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fatpoipoiiii
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LifeIsALie [#19]

LMAO dumbass you think someone on vlr.gg with 4 stars could ever be a lawyer? KEKW

Fuck i want to be a lawyer :(

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