Which meta was better

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ynuser

1) Current: cypher trips are weak af, fade dogs or skye dog can't break them
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2) old: cypher trips are op, but fade dogs and skye dogs can break them

Imo second one cuz both agents were good and their utilites already had good potential if someone played smart but now its just feels like those utils don't have that much impact and can easily be countered. But riot decided cypher trips unbreakable by dogs, it made cypher op now it's nerfed to ground. Would like to hear everyone's opinion on this

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tv0rusluke

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we all cumulatively hate any version of cypher that exists

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Maniacwolf

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“We” “all” 😂

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tv0rusluke

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yes 'we all' and that includes you too, you just dont wanna admit it

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one

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I miss my cypher

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Maniacwolf

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w gaslight

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one

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I miss cypher actually being useful. With cypher vyse we had a healthy sentinel meta

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poggpigg

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I love cypher ❤️

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Acethyr

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rare poggpigg L

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SkyXD

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you love anything bffr

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Maniacwolf

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I liked the old cypher better but idk if it’s actually “better”

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ynuser

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I want to see it like this, both have same effects, but previously u had to use dog to break trips, and be smart about it. It still gave cypher a chance back to place unexpected trips. But then riot nerfed dogs, then trips and now utils are not that impactful like they were before

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notepicfailboi

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Revert the vyse flash change and we’re all good

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one

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Yes. I need my vyse back riot

#13

ynuser

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It's crazy how just removing just a voice line "blinded" caused half of its downfall

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one

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Because info is literally the job of a sentinel?