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challenger teams + champions

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#1
ayo67tuff

if a challengers team were to win champions (which is most likely impossible)
are they technically just gonna take a spot in t1
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stay in challengers
(keep in mind, challengers players under 18 cant play in champions shanghai neither vct)

#2
1dan1x
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I would hope they make a clause that a champs win makes you instantly qualify for partnership but skipping ascension would be a bad thing

#3
ayo67tuff
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arent they getting rid of ascension tho?

#4
MrBlooBloom
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it would be a terrible idea. We don't want a random bum org locked in a T1 league with very few spots for several years

#5
1dan1x
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winning champs is a big deal

not having Acend in franchising is one of the worst mistakes that riot have made

Yes it is a small ahh org, yes they prolly couldnt keep up the money flow but rn Acend looks like the worst fluke win of all time

#6
MrBlooBloom
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I don't think you realize that 99% of orgs in T2 don't have the money to be competitive in T1. I don't give shit about the achievment; I don't want another EG in the league for 3 years or so. The league is way too small to allow teams who don't have the means necessary to be competitive to stay in it over actually serious orgs

#7
1dan1x
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thats why riot made the franchising system. having T2 teams ascend is something they endorse. they will invest a lot of funds to support T2 teams competing in T1. why would they make an Ascension system while not wanting T2 orgs compete...
They could just copy league otherwise...

#8
MrBlooBloom
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that is not what you proposed tho. You said that you wanted challengers teams who made champs to get to franchising, which isn't simply ascending through ascension

#10
1dan1x
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T2 teams winning champs is extremely unlikely, pulling it off requires an amazing team and I would want to have all 5 players in a league. thats what I dont like about 2023 EG, they just nuked their team because they couldnt afford it.

#9
GodAwfulGod
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Optic won a masters and Acend won a Champion and yet they were not given tier 1 spots so its most likely that the tier 2 team wouldn't get a spot unless they are an org like G2 or NS

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