Reminder that people are trying to convince you a player who hasn’t been internationally relevant since the Mesozoic era is in the top 10 oat
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Rule number 1 of VLR is don't insult Aspas or nAts, you should know that by now
Addammo [#4]Rule number 1 of VLR is don't insult Aspas or nAts, you should know that by now
Aspas has actually done something internationally after the Stone Age he deserves to be top 3
themaniel [#8]Aspas has actually done something internationally after the Stone Age he deserves to be top 3
I agree but you have to ask yourself, is his Waylay as good as nAts
Addammo [#9]I agree but you have to ask yourself, is his Waylay as good as nAts
why on earth did they do that lmao
binidownfall69 [#11]nats its trash sorry but i have to say it
he’s not trash there are just like 25 people all time that are better than him
binidownfall69 [#11]nats its trash sorry but i have to say it
nAts is not bad, but he is definitely not the best
themaniel [#10]why on earth did they do that lmao
I guess it was working for them in scrims I honestly have no idea
I can see him being top 10, or at least top 15 this year.
Kickoff: close 2nd, first time IGLing, new roster.
Bangkok: 5/6th, 2nd overall rating, lost to 3rd, and 2nd.
Stage 1: 3rd, top 10 overall rating.
Toronto: 9/10th, missed 1st match, TL choked comeback to 1st.
Stage 2: 1st, 4th overall rating.
Champs: 9/12th, best rating in TL, lost to DRX twice, carried hard in EDG game.
Obviously not the best, but you can argue for him to be there. 3/3 internationals, top 3 in 3/3 regionals. Plus during kickoff to stage 2, the liquid roster changed a lot. Kamyk to serial to penny&serial to trexx. Also his first year IGLing.
themaniel [#13]he’s not trash there are just like 25 people all time that are better than him
Stfu please, 0 ball knowledge.
Itsover [#20]Stfu please, 0 ball knowledge.
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxq_I-QLh43i7Q5myipkgLjpRahF6Se6FD
OldIGN [#18]I can see him being top 10, or at least top 15 this year.
Kickoff: close 2nd, first time IGLing, new roster.
Bangkok: 5/6th, 2nd overall rating, lost to 3rd, and 2nd.
Stage 1: 3rd, top 10 overall rating.
Toronto: 9/10th, missed 1st match, TL choked comeback to 1st.
Stage 2: 1st, 4th overall rating.
Champs: 9/12th, best rating in TL, lost to DRX twice, carried hard in EDG game.Obviously not the best, but you can argue for him to be there. 3/3 internationals, top 3 in 3/3 regionals. Plus during kickoff to stage 2, the liquid roster changed a lot. Kamyk to serial to penny&serial to trexx. Also his first year IGLing.
We can't be using regional ratings gng.
Drop down and give me the so called 20 players better than him, STAT
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#26]Drop down and give me the so called 20 players better than him, STAT
Alfajer chronicle derke Leo boaster F0rsaken d4v41 jingg something Aspas less pancada saadhak sacy lemon1 jawgemo Ethan boostio t3xture zmjjkk chichoo karon munchkin lakia meteor s1mon tenz Zekken
That’s 28
themaniel [#27]Whoops wrong button
Nice one, I saw your mistake in 4k 📷
themaniel [#28]Alfajer chronicle derke Leo boaster F0rsaken d4v41 jingg something Aspas less pancada saadhak sacy lemon1 jawgemo Ethan boostio t3xture zmjjkk chichoo karon munchkin lakia meteor s1mon tenz Zekken
That’s 28
I wouldn't say pancada, saadhak, d1, boostio are better than nats. Also all of these players play different roles which impacts their fragging and impact ability.
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#30]I wouldn't say pancada, saadhak, d1, boostio are better than nats. Also all of these players play different roles which impacts their fragging and impact ability.
I’d want them on wolves before I’d want nAts
themaniel [#28]Alfajer chronicle derke Leo boaster F0rsaken d4v41 jingg something Aspas less pancada saadhak sacy lemon1 jawgemo Ethan boostio t3xture zmjjkk chichoo karon munchkin lakia meteor s1mon tenz Zekken
That’s 28
d4v41, jingg, something, pancada, saadhak, lemon1, jawgemo, ethan, boostio, t3xture, karon, munchkin, lakia, s1mon and zekken are all just blatant sneaks put purely to ragebait.
The rest of the list is also worse but that can be considered in ignorance and not ragebait
themaniel [#31]I’d want them on wolves before I’d want nAts
Yea, so wolves don't make it to international tourneys, I see you, double agent
aimnobody1 [#34]n0ts
You like eating and enjoying nuts? that's very weird bro
dimmed [#32]d4v41, jingg, something, pancada, saadhak, lemon1, jawgemo, ethan, boostio, t3xture, karon, munchkin, lakia, s1mon and zekken are all just blatant sneaks put purely to ragebait.
The rest of the list is also worse but that can be considered in ignorance and not ragebait
Yes, all of these players who are/were integral to their teams and have won trophies and made deep international runs past 1856 are all ragebait
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#33]Yea, so wolves don't make it to international tourneys, I see you, double agent
They’ve made it further into international tournaments than NAts has since the 1640’s
themaniel [#37]They’ve made it further into international tournaments than NAts has since the 1640’s
Old is gold + most of these players haven't been able to qualify for an int. since 1923
this just in: british wolves fan know a thing or two about being internationally relevant
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#30]I wouldn't say pancada, saadhak, d1, boostio are better than nats. Also all of these players play different roles which impacts their fragging and impact ability.
"I wouldn't say that actual world champs that peaked in a higher form are actually better than the ghost of russia"
foythvlr [#39]this just in: british wolves fan know a thing or two about being internationally relevant
wolves didn't get grouped though cant say the same about n0ts and l0quid
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#38]Old is gold + most of these players haven't been able to qualify for an int. since 1923
Saadhak and Boostio last international was like last year
hellfire [#40]"I wouldn't say that actual world champs that peaked in a higher form are actually better than the ghost of russia"
Yea because acend had a fluke life tourney
I mean, if put different kind of stats this take is more than valid as:
1.Out of 5 years of VCT only made international in 3 years
2.Out of these 3 years, he didn't achieve much in 2 years
3.In biggest event of year Champs, he has only made out of groups 1 time(2021 Gambit)
and if we nitpick some more international stats, you can surely have atleast 10 players above him in a list
rooooo [#3]but didnt you know he invented lurking?
Lurking existed before valorant
foythvlr [#42]Saadhak and Boostio last international was like last year
Same thing
hellfire [#41]wolves didn't get grouped though cant say the same about n0ts and l0quid
this just in: the chinese know a thing or two about getting grouped
foythvlr [#47]this just in: the chinese know a thing or two about getting grouped
wait u cooked me
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan [#46]Same thing
Also Nats played 4 internationals this year and in none of them he played more matches then both in their last international
themaniel [#36]Yes, all of these players who are/were integral to their teams and have won trophies and made deep international runs past 1856 are all ragebait
It's not that they're bad, it's just they are obviously worse than nAts:
T3xture:
- Shanghai winner (Best / 2nd best player on team)
- Madrid Runner-up
- 5-6th at Toronto
- Grouped at champs
so worse career than nAts
Karon same as t3xture just worse player
Munchkin same as Karon but is an IGL
Lakia worse than the other 2 since he didn't play in 25
The PRX players all fall under the narrative of being a superteam the same one we use to demean chron. I'll admit something you could argue for but nAts' longevity (maybe something isn't ragebait but blind ignorance)
Pancanda had a single year and got benched for Zellsis otherwise I wouldn't mind him
Saadhak had the greatest duelist oat and a slightly lesser sentinel in nAts and still only got 1 trophy - actually fine you can argue he isn't ragebait i suppose
Ethan and Jawgemo got carried to champs trophy then didn't attend any internationals the following year, there is an argument for them but neither have really been the best player on their team once. I am open to saying they aren't ragebait if they can give me a bit more
Boostio...
s1mon literally just has champs winner and 4th at masters
Zekken:
- Masters Madrid
- Champs 4th
- Toronto 5-6th
Impressive but not nAts
dimmed [#52]It's not that they're bad, it's just they are obviously worse than nAts:
T3xture:
- Shanghai winner (Best / 2nd best player on team)
- Madrid Runner-up
- 5-6th at Toronto
- Grouped at champs
so worse career than nAtsKaron same as t3xture just worse player
Munchkin same as Karon but is an IGL
Lakia worse than the other 2 since he didn't play in 25The PRX players all fall under the narrative of being a superteam the same one we use to demean chron. I'll admit something you could argue for but nAts' longevity (maybe something isn't ragebait but blind ignorance)
Pancanda had a single year and got benched for Zellsis otherwise I wouldn't mind him
Saadhak had the greatest duelist oat and a slightly lesser sentinel in nAts and still only got 1 trophy - actually fine you can argue he isn't ragebait i supposeEthan and Jawgemo got carried to champs trophy then didn't attend any internationals the following year, there is an argument for them but neither have really been the best player on their team once. I am open to saying they aren't ragebait if they can give me a bit more
Boostio...
s1mon literally just has champs winner and 4th at masters
Zekken:
- Masters Madrid
- Champs 4th
- Toronto 5-6th
Impressive but not nAts
I admit pancada and maybe saadhak is a bit of a sneak
but most of the players careers you just listed have done more internationally and more recently
themaniel [#53]I admit pancada and maybe saadhak is a bit of a sneak
but most of the players careers you just listed have done more internationally and more recently
more recently but not more internationally unless you want to argue we should value recent wins more (which we lowkey should buuuuuut shut up)
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