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NA Pro Players + Minor Region Future?

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#95
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He didn't choose because of money, but because zula died.
If he really wanted money he could just open his twitch live IMO and farm money easily because he's the best player in BR region, he get 5k views easily but he prefer to focus in his gameplay imo that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying what Shahzam did as wrong.

#96
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If he had passion for Zula, he would have stayed.

he swapped games because he couldn't earn a living in the game. Theres nothing wrong with that. It's a smart choice to do, and what pretty much all of NA did with val, as the CS scene had no funding going into it during covid.

That's what I'm trying to say. These people use passion as motivation to be the best. AFter that it's earning a living, whilst trying to be the best. Passion can only get you so far, after that it's talent, and skill.

I'm not saying someone has to stream. Zywoo doesn't stream and he's one of the best players in the world. It's perfectly fine not having to stream. Just there's next to no real downside to streaming yourself playing the game, or playing it off stream. Shahz talking about making more money being in streaming than playing, is the truth. Being a content creator for an org, you get teh salary, and the subs. It's less stressful than competing, and you get to live your life a bit more.

shahz is also 28, so it's a matter of time before he retired. Mwzera is 20 or so. He has a long career ahead of him. Shahz knows he'll never be the best player in the world. He's at the age where he has to accept it. Everyone hits that age where they know they're no longer the best. It's only a few freaks of nature like messi and ronaldo, who still push for the best at their age. It's extraordinary to see them achieve what they're doing at their age.

#98
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Passion isn't for a game itself, but for competition!
If you have FPS passion you will be trying to play every game to be a beast!
I try to be good in Apex, Valorant, CS, all FPS because I just love to aim lol
That's what I'm saying, but yeah Shahzam is already old he's not wrong to try to get money
But many people from CS prefer to earn money from other way, earn money from "branding" because you're good is not wrong
My point is him disrespecting saying they don't even need champions prize, saying they have a "easy" life just streaming, saying "NA is better look we don't even needed a coach to win first LAN" (with a well structured NA scene thats NA obligation to win), saying all minors region is shit compared to them because they all had a good scene from beginning is something arrogant asf how never thought about others.

#99
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When you're in a t1 org, the prize pool money isn't your main source of income. well, unless you're a dota pro, then holy shit is it.

for example, s1mple has made around 1.5mil in his career. Do you think he hasn't outearned that in salary?

350k (first place) is split between 6 people (not sure on coaches role), so lets say 60k for each person. Tax on that will most likely bring it down to like 40something. 40k or so is most likely 5 months of their salary. Now they have to win to get that.
The amount people earn from co streaming, they tend to get huge trafic from the drops, and other advertisements. Now, take shroud. 40k viewers. He runs 1 ad every hour. This event is over 50hours of content. Think of the money he made from that, the increase in subs, etc.

To us 40-50k is a lot of money. That's more than I earn in like 4 years (poor uni student). However to him it's a couple months salary.

Also they didn't need a coach, until they saw the limitations it had on them. Then they got rawkus. Also regarding minor region being bad compared, that tend to be the general experience in this. It's why I never try to glorify uk esports. We're dogshit. the scene in the UK is non existant, so I dont bother. I wish we had more funding in the scene, especially considering fnatic is a british org. However wont dont have a large scene over here. Now atm fnatic and liquid can be calssed as partially uk, but that's about it. People still meme despite fnatic going to finals of the first lan, and being at champs. liquid going to the first lan, coming third or whatever they placed.

smaller regions do tend to be worse because they're underdeveloped. However it's not impossible for a team to rise up and be good. Tyloo in cs proved it a few years ago. bNtet and xaccurate I still wish moved over, because they're be fucking amazing to watch play val. Especially if xaccurate played with forsaken. That would be extreamly good to watch.

Just funding into a scene doesn't mean they have to win. In the end talent matters over money.

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