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SEA play style

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#1
MaTrix96

So I'm a dia/immortal player in NA and I've been here in Malaysia for about 2 weeks now and I can't believe the play style and meta difference that I have experienced so far.

First things off, with a new account my rank is Gold 3 (yeah wtf right? Can't believe it as well) and I can't believe the amount of Jett/ Reyna funnels in competitive. Literally 9/10 matches have a cracked Jett/ Reyna that gets 30ish kills and they do this without teamwork most of the time, just pure puggy frags here and there.

The second thing I noticed is that I don't think the rank system applies in SEA just as much in NA because sentinels/ supports cannot get rewarded as much as duelists in a competitive match when there is basically no teamplay most of the time. Unless a support player goes to entry or just goes yolo trying to get kills, I don't see how a sentinel main or even a controller can get to their well deserved rank without being selfish in a team without clear communication and sets. I've seen insane setups and good plays by sentinels/initiators but unless they top-frag, of course they won't rank up because the 'duelists' will get the highest ACS/ RR most of the time based on frags anyways.

Third- 80% of the time, I get killed because someone is holding a freaking weird angle that nobody does or 4 enemies rushes A site with the spike still in mid with 30 seconds remaining like wtffff? But it freaking works cuz all of my teammates gets killed before the time runs out anyway. An example would be holding B site as a defender with the spike dropped in Split but all remaining enemies would yolo rush A ramps and just goes everywhere just looking for kills. Bro, how does that meta even apply in a 'competitive'? No information gathering and no sets but it freaking works cuz who would expect a 4 man rush to CT with the spike still in mid for example right? It's just so freaking annoying to constantly change whatever dynamics/ fps logic that I have gotten in CSGO and in NA pugs considering how unpredictable and weird gold-plat elo here is and the surprising thing is- it works!

Fourth- You don't even need to think or play mind-games 90% of the time. I've noticed that the more that I think and try to tell my teammates on how we can analyze the enemy setups and try to pick-off a certain agent, the worse it gets cuz enemy team just wants to aim and shoot. It won't matter cause the less you think the more success you get for some reason lmao.

I have a couple of days left here and I could say I'm glad that I have witnessed FPS meta here in asia. I really do hope they perform well at Champions and get to that 'next level' in the future.

#2
MilanTheMyth
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yes APAC servers are hard af, everyone demon. there is a reason i prefer eu servers with 120 ms ping

#13
Paracosm
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how tf do u get eu servers from india?

#15
SnooTangerines
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play on Bahrain. Ask someone in Europe to create your account, or use a VPN.

I get 50-60 ping on Bahrain.

#16
MilanTheMyth
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I don't live in India

#31
Hidden_Name
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milan fake flagger kekw

#32
VeLooZ
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haha

#51
MilanTheMyth
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i live in uganda rn

#3
cheaterr
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pretty sure that's bcs ur in a gold/plat match

#7
MaTrix96
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Maybe? Who knows right? I always get high ACS but couldn't secure the wins. I also main support agents so yeah

#4
iclappedurmama
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Thanks

#5
AdrenalinJunkie
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my dude Asia the most populated continent so no matter how different the play style might be there are going to be a lot cracked dudes here

#21
HaSanity
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How many players do you have in immortal? while asia has the biggest continent, it is not the largest region in the world.

#33
prophet_m1mosa
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Fps isn't really popular here. Let me tell you, anyone who reaches immortal has an eye on competitive play and most of them get even signed by smaller orgs, most of the players in immortal/Radiant are pros or wanna be pros in the future and just starting off their career.

The audience and fan base is mostly low elo players like me, also we have high numbers of players playing from Gaming Cafes cuz not everyone has their personal pc.

So, if you are like immortal in SEA you can think of going pro.

#41
Hidden_Name
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what about s3? can s3 players go pro?

#42
Crapycat
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obv , not but an s3 player can eventually become or go to immortal or radiant and possibly become a pro

#43
Hidden_Name
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ahh thats sad i am s3 and i feel i awp better than rossi so i thought i can go pro :(

#44
prophet_m1mosa
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you sound familiar hmmm

#45
Hidden_Name
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hmm , where have u seen me ?

#46
Ryuzaki
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yea this guy is right, specially in the VCC regions I think they started with Diamond 3 for lowest pro rank. Now obviously you need to be at least Immortal to get signed. Also Esports Orgs in these countries are way different than NA or EU or KR/JP orgs. They are way smaller and it's more like a small clan/community than a professional org most of the times.

#47
prophet_m1mosa
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not in VCC but only in Nepal i guess. All others were immortal minimum, also to register for VCC there was no rank restriction

#48
Ryuzaki
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I've seen Diamond pro team from Bangladesh I think. They are probably Immortal by now cuz it was in start of 2021.

#6
makoidk
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Finally the NA Immortal = SEA Gold meme came true xD

#12
yaiima0
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LOL

#18
Sentin_Val
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KEKW

#8
SnooTangerines
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The same translates to pro play, unfortunately.

In pugs, this is exactly the playstyle you should go for, my account in EU server is ranked higher (despite higher ping and less time given) than on Asia. However when you do this in professional matches, everything goes bad.

Just look at how many Asian teams rely on a "star duelist".

PRX has Forsaken (now Jingg)
X10 has Patiphan (or at least used to have)
GE has SkRossi
and the list goes on, of course, the other players are not trash they just don't get the limelight. PRX d4vai is also their star player but you could associate it with the fact that he is also a duelist main but plays other roles in pro play. GE lightningfast also has insane mechanics and is a very young player developing his skills and used to play a duelist in the early days of valorant and now shifted to a sentinel/controller.

while in NA/EU every player has a shining moment, take SEN for example where sick, dapr, tenz, shahzam, zombs, pretty much everyone is a star player. "TenZ" joining SEN was not there to carry them, but just a final piece of the puzzle.

Anyhow, yeah wtf, what is up with high ranked EU/NA people not being able to go beyond gold in Asia. I am pretty sure I met a person from EU immortal who could not go beyond plat 1 when he was in Asia.

#17
Izanagi
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litteraly Brazil, region that just relies on aim and no brain, fuck

#19
cheaterr
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PRX "f0rsaken go kill" strat works well, but "jingg go kill" strat doesnt work well

#22
fatpoipoiiii
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f0rsaken go kill doesnt work in berlin sadly

#24
cheaterr
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it works, they loss bcs its group of death

#25
fatpoipoiiii
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when prx added jing to team pretty sure their mindset to become world champion. group of death are not excuses imo. they need aim to battle against emea and na team i think. what dont work is f0rsaken no duelist i guess.

#26
cheaterr
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im talking about how f0rsaken go kill works, they just need a good sova

#28
VeLooZ
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Agree, I think Should bring back F0rsaken Jett.

#9
ItsMeDio
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sea is crack bro.. just wait for the next year, and u will see SEA will compete and at least finished top 4 in next master

#34
prophet_m1mosa
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That's funny but I really wanna see that happen

#37
makoidk
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hello m1mosa the prophet

#38
prophet_m1mosa
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Indeed.

#10
nyomski
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Most people rely on aim rather than comms. Because most of the time the language barrier is too much. I met a wonderful Vietnamese player who added me and my trio, yet we couldn’t speak to each other because of the language barrier. Thats why even lower golds have insane aim but shitty strats. Executes are pretty much nonexistent, and people stacks up round in defending side for almost every map.

#11
fatpoipoiiii
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im pretty sure the spike at mid and rush a, they rush then dont know who bring spike, found out the spike at mid then get it lmao. we dont use com, and if we use it usually to joke around like spank me daddy

#14
DELUSIONAL_FANS_DESTROYER
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Lol. That is so true.
And GOLD in SEA is the worst rank possible.
There will always one person in your team that can jiggle peek sheriff/vandal 1 tap accurately. But he will whiff against not moving enemies.

#49
Soul_Stalker
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bruh i had this enemy too, they so good shooting while running always caught me off, but when they standing still they whiff all the easy shoot lmao, so easy to comeback when they defending site LMAO, they cant running gunning cause holding an angle, and whiff all the shoot. this so true..

#20
plas
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thanks for informing me of a server that i might never play in

#23
FightWasTaken
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all AP servers including oce its just aim battle lmfao

#27
VeLooZ
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Agree, When u Play in AP dont hope to much at Team Work until reach Plat-Radiant.
but when high Rank sometimes always Instalocker Duelist with Solo Style kill. not with teamwork
as a Sentinel, Initiator , If no Trade when duelist dead or No cover / help. the Duelist will blame u haha
Thats AP SERVER STYLE

#54
MilanTheMyth
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If no Trade when duelist dead or No cover / help. the Duelist will blame u haha
Thats AP SERVER STYLE it should be liek that when the duelist comes to site, not them staying back and lurking on reyna wasting ur flash

#58
VeLooZ
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sometimes. Duelist dont wanna know haha. we need coms to go gather. but some people Like Just rushing then die, Drypeeking then die. and blaming team haha. he doesnt see the situation that us can help or not. haha

#29
Tira
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That's APAC Best Strat tho
"Duelist Go Kill" & "Rush X Site" Best 2 Strat for sure

You gonna get teamwork on End Plat to Radiant so yeah....

#30
VeLooZ
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yes when reach Plat that really Different we can get more coms.
and its fun. but i hate Duelist locker
autolocker Duelist then tell Team to use Smoke,etc haha
Selfish

#35
prophet_m1mosa
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SEA playstyle summed up

-Patiphan go Frag
-Forsaken go Frag
-SkRossi go Frag

‘Duelist dead boys, let's save’ when it doesn't work

#36
VeLooZ
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i really Sad with F0rsaken. Feel like no one can stop the aggresive play by F0rsaken
in fact : only Coach can stop him hahaha

#39
big_chungus69
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Language barrier + extremely low average age in these countries. Hard to coordinate when your team is all under the age of 16 and dont speak good English. Unlike in NA where 99% of people speak fluently or even EU where almost all do unless you get Turks or Russki

#40
VeLooZ
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Agree. to many Kids are playing this game in AP . sometimes asking for Help is meaning blaming LOL
so they will Throwing the game

#50
shashank-sharma
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I like when you said Ranking system doesn't apply in SEA which is so true. The best mentality you can have in Valorant is to accept the fact that smurfs will come (silver, gold, platinum, diamond and even in immortal), so keep your head up, don't be scared and just kill, it sounds obvious but mental boost should be there. I have seen many players scared of playing in diamond or in immortal which makes their gameplay even worse.

Also one thing which I do see is, there are less strats or team play in SEA
Few things which I do see is:

  1. Duelist go and kill (Take first frag) = win (if you duelist and not taking frags, you bad, which should not be the case)
  2. Only If duelist goes in, we get site
  3. If we spend more than 10 second in any site entrance, we rotate (not always but most of the time)
  4. If opponent team is not denying the push, then forget everything, just rush and go inside (this is the worst mm experience)
  5. And most important, operator is way too abused here, if you can't counter it, trust me you are done

To be honest, half of the match is won because of huge skill difference, winning like 13-5 or 13-3. Sometimes you get good immortals/diamond players sometimes they are worse than plat, so ranking is shit

#56
MilanTheMyth
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even when i am jump peeking they kill me with op, their reactions so fast

#52
JettEnjoyer
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This guy literally just described low elo play.
If ur true immortal even diamond 3 (in which i don't trust) you would just press w and destroy them.

Otherwise the meme about Americans are true

#55
MilanTheMyth
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can u say what meme about americans?

#57
MaTrix96
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Lmao why would I spend valuable time making stuff up. I actually have life and only spend a couple of my hours to get updated and share a couple of few things if I can in my free time. I didn't create a post to make you believe me nor do I have to please you. Just my two cents. Peace!

#53
MilanTheMyth
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People on Mumbai server / Singapore servers are all aim no brain. thats why its hard. u dont even get the chance to do brain plays cuz they just kill u.

#59
VeLooZ
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agree. they are to aggresive with duel. not with brain

#60
makoidk
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at least SG server better than HK so many toxic pinoys in HK (pinoy toxic the worst kind of toxic, i wish i was singaporean) + in SG theres a little bit more chance of people comming.

#61
MilanTheMyth
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Na Mumbai servers are the most toxic they will put in swear words and say to kill urself even in Unrated, I'm sure Hongkong isnt the worst.

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