We defeated DWG and 2 rounds away from F4Q(threw 1v3) a MASTERS TEAM
I am not even asking 2 but atleast give us 1spot on MASTERS next year PLS
we improved so much in 3 matches only i want our teams to get more exposure
FightWasTaken [#2]they will, same with oce otherwise riot are just trolling at that point
but yk they are a small indie company so who knows what they will do
Riizwan19xx [#4]Not masters worthy yet.
Give us 2 vct slots. Thats more like it.
? wdym there is no such thing a vct slot without masters firstly and no we almost defeated a masters team that took one map of sentinels on split , we deserve atleast a small spot on MASTERS event
ireplytoidiots [#5]and got 26-3d by a sea team that couldn't make it out of groups at masters
forgot to include that
asking for a MASTERS slot is shameless
so u forgot that the team which was 3rd in Reykjavik got 13-0ed as well
ireplytoidiots [#5]and got 26-3d by a sea team that couldn't make it out of groups at masters
forgot to include that
asking for a MASTERS slot is shameless
lmao well said
xXballisticXx [#7]so u forgot that the team which was 3rd in Reykjavik got 13-0ed as well
yeah, they're not the ones asking for more slots after getting embarassed. they're also not even the best team in the region. lmao what a dogshit argument
Riizwan19xx [#4]Not masters worthy yet.
Give us 2 vct slots. Thats more like it.
India, Oceania, MENA, Turkey - NoT MaStErS WoRtHy ReGiOnS
Meanwhile Brazil and Japan who suck at every event so far - yeah let's give them 2 each, they definitely deserve it
I'm trying to understand your thinking
ireplytoidiots [#9]yeah, they're not the ones asking for more slots after getting embarassed. they're also not even the best team in the region. lmao what a dogshit argument
And why would they ? KR scene is already recognised by riot and they would easily provide them 2 slots for champions 2022, thats how good their region is
Olofboost [#11]India, Oceania, MENA, Turkey - NoT MaStErS WoRtHy ReGiOnS
Meanwhile Brazil and Japan who suck at every event so far - yeah let's give them 2 each, they definitely deserve itI'm trying to understand your thinking
im not even saying ind>jap or otherwise i just want one spot MASTERS is a world event that is necessary for getting circuit points and a world event should have the whole world so that we get exposure
RIP_BOZO [#12]And why would they ? KR scene is already recognised by riot and they would easily provide them 2 slots for champions 2022, thats how good their region is
if you seriously believe SA should be gifted a slot to MASTERS after that performance you must be lying to yourself
actually shameless i would literally be embarrassed to say that shit, it's like begging for handouts at that point
if they handedly beat f4q it MIGHT be excusable but like this? get a reality check
ireplytoidiots [#9]yeah, they're not the ones asking for more slots after getting embarassed. they're also not even the best team in the region. lmao what a dogshit argument
how can they even ask after getting embarrassed , but I m. proud of my team, that they showed they are better than 3-4 seed Korean teams...where they got 2 slots to masters
xXballisticXx [#15]how can they even ask after getting embarrassed , but I m. proud of my team, that they showed they are better than 3-4 seed Korean teams...where they got 2 slots to masters
look i know you're excited for your team and all
but when will people understand that winning an online bo3 does not tell you which team is "better"
do you think people were saying bbg or andbox were better than sentinels when they beat them
you determine quality of team from CONSISTENT RESULTS
which only korea has provided thus far in ALL of apac
do you get it?
ireplytoidiots [#14]if you seriously believe SA should be gifted a slot to MASTERS after that performance you must be lying to yourself
actually shameless i would literally be embarrassed to say that shit, it's like begging for handouts at that point
if they handedly beat f4q it MIGHT be excusable but like this? get a reality check
so u r expecting a team with no international exposure to beat a team single handedly , just say that f4q should have beaten ge single handedly which they weren't able to
xXballisticXx [#17]so u r expecting a team with no international exposure to beat a team single handedly , just say that f4q should have beaten ge single handedly which they weren't able to
edited: i'm just not gonna continue this because this clearly this discussion isn't going anywhere
gg you win give india 2 masters slots they deserve it
ireplytoidiots [#16]look i know you're excited for your team and all
but when will people understand that winning an online bo3 does not tell you which team is "better"
do you think people were saying bbg or andbox were better than sentinels when they beat them
you determine quality of team from CONSISTENT RESULTS
which only korea has provided thus far in ALL of apac
do you get it?
that'd true that but different regions usually dont get to play together frequently , maybe once or twice just like this in tournament
ireplytoidiots [#16]look i know you're excited for your team and all
but when will people understand that winning an online bo3 does not tell you which team is "better"
do you think people were saying bbg or andbox were better than sentinels when they beat them
you determine quality of team from CONSISTENT RESULTS
which only korea has provided thus far in ALL of apac
do you get it?
yea coz we dont get masters slots to improve and get exposure we improved so much with just 3 matches it is unreal
GE is pretty good, I want to see them more in the future along with other teams from the region but the problem with saying they are able to compete with SEN just because they beat a team who took a map off of sen or smth is a bit of a stretch for me at least. Every team has their off days and their cracked days. I agree though GE shows that the region has a lot of promise and potential. Always felt bad that basically the entire region got screwed in csgo bcz of one lone actor and hopefully riot can continue to give these regions more chances.
ireplytoidiots [#16]look i know you're excited for your team and all
but when will people understand that winning an online bo3 does not tell you which team is "better"
do you think people were saying bbg or andbox were better than sentinels when they beat them
you determine quality of team from CONSISTENT RESULTS
which only korea has provided thus far in ALL of apac
do you get it?
Vision strikers has just been the life saver of Korea ... I dont think anyone is not even close vision strikers in Korea itself
ireplytoidiots [#16]look i know you're excited for your team and all
but when will people understand that winning an online bo3 does not tell you which team is "better"
do you think people were saying bbg or andbox were better than sentinels when they beat them
you determine quality of team from CONSISTENT RESULTS
which only korea has provided thus far in ALL of apac
do you get it?
"CONSISTENT RESULTS"
Downvote me, IDC.
DWG were looking to make roster changes. The players didn't even know they would be playing in LCQ until recently.
You guys did get rolled by PRX.
It was nice to see GE almost beat F4Q, but they were completely reshuffling the roles on their team.
Asking for a slot directly to masters in absurd.
Something like 3~4 slots for every APAC qualifier in 2022 sounds about right.
ireplytoidiots [#5]and got 26-3d by a sea team that couldn't make it out of groups at masters
forgot to include that
asking for a MASTERS slot is shameless
slot yeah ,one more thing - your ass
Thunder1 [#23]"CONSISTENT RESULTS"
nuturn 3rd place vct reykjavik
vision strikers out of group of death lost to tournament winners
tell me what region other than EU or NA has accomplished anything similar
zhajiangmiang [#21]GE is pretty good, I want to see them more in the future along with other teams from the region but the problem with saying they are able to compete with SEN just because they beat a team who took a map off of sen or smth is a bit of a stretch for me at least. Every team has their off days and their cracked days. I agree though GE shows that the region has a lot of promise and potential. Always felt bad that basically the entire region got screwed in csgo bcz of one lone actor and hopefully riot can continue to give these regions more chances.
Might I add, SEN vs F4Q had ZERO stakes. ZERO.
DanielHongFromKR [#24]Downvote me, IDC.
DWG were looking to make roster changes. The players didn't even know they would be playing in LCQ until recently.
You guys did get rolled by PRX.
It was nice to see GE almost beat F4Q, but they were completely reshuffling the roles on their team.Asking for a slot directly to masters in absurd.
Something like 3~4 slots for every APAC qualifier in 2022 sounds about right.
even I dont agree with a direct slot to masters , we dont even deserve. but 2-3 slots or circuit points in sea combined maybe alright
xXballisticXx [#22]Vision strikers has just been the life saver of Korea ... I dont think anyone is not even close vision strikers in Korea itself
dumb argument and the same shit people would say about Sentinels after they won iceland
ireplytoidiots [#9]yeah, they're not the ones asking for more slots after getting embarassed. they're also not even the best team in the region. lmao what a dogshit argument
they already got slots duh
mogambo [#25]slot yeah ,one more thing - your ass
good one dude your sense of humor is just like your valorant teams, dogshit
Riizwan19xx [#4]Not masters worthy yet.
Give us 2 vct slots. Thats more like it.
bro if latam and japan have a direct slot to masters there should be 1 direct slot and atleast 2 slots in lcq for south asia
ireplytoidiots [#18]edited: i'm just not gonna continue this because this clearly this discussion isn't going anywhere
gg you win give india 2 masters slots they deserve it
and they say Indians are toxic..
ireplytoidiots [#31]good one dude your sense of humor is just like your valorant teams, dogshit
there was no humor - thats what we want
xXballisticXx [#28]even I dont agree with a direct slot to masters , we dont even deserve. but 2-3 slots or circuit points in sea combined maybe alright
You guys DEFINITELY deserve slots in SEA/APAC. GE did have a nice showing. Don't let anyone take that away from you. I really liked what I saw. If the other SA teams are this good, they will have a good shot at getting though qualifiers.
But the guys above arguing for a slot in MASTERS are outta their minds.
DanielHongFromKR [#24]Downvote me, IDC.
DWG were looking to make roster changes. The players didn't even know they would be playing in LCQ until recently.
You guys did get rolled by PRX.
It was nice to see GE almost beat F4Q, but they were completely reshuffling the roles on their team.Asking for a slot directly to masters in absurd.
Something like 3~4 slots for every APAC qualifier in 2022 sounds about right.
wowowowowow what the fuck are u talking about F4Q Were sweating its not GE fault they switched role u guys were sweating
We definately deserve a slot in masters if bots like koreans and brazil gets slot in masters give both team equal environment ie lan Then u will see which region is better KOREA SUCKSSSSS
ireplytoidiots [#18]edited: i'm just not gonna continue this because this clearly this discussion isn't going anywhere
gg you win give india 2 masters slots they deserve it
If developing regions dont have international exposure they will always fall behind. Look at Latam and Japan. They did not perform as well in first masters with 1 slot but in berlin they improved so much.
Not disrespecting SA region. But wouldn’t it be better if they join a regional VCT like SEA for example. The whole reason GE is doing this good is because they knew the only way to qualify to a major (in this case Champions), is to fight their way through the APAC LCQ. If they decide to just skip over regional VCT and straight to a major this would mean that there would be less competition especially where the only dominant force in SA is only VLT and GE itself. It would be like Japan 2.0 where CR and Zeta is dominating , where in theory they are really good but since the lack of competition in VCT itself they fell easily in international competition.
ABCDE [#33]and they say Indians are toxic..
tbf i edited it because he might actually be a child and i'm not trying to cyber bully a kid
xXballisticXx [#22]Vision strikers has just been the life saver of Korea ... I dont think anyone is not even close vision strikers in Korea itself
As a Korean, I agree that SA deserve a masters slot
But don’t attack the KR region tho, people gotta stop acting like the entire region is terrible except for VS
Just because VS are so much better then anything else in the region doesn’t mean the rest of the KR is weak
VS are just miles above anything produced by Asia so far, making the rest of the region look weak when compared, so I think it’s kind of an over statement to call VS “Korea’s life saver”
DanielHongFromKR [#24]Downvote me, IDC.
DWG were looking to make roster changes. The players didn't even know they would be playing in LCQ until recently.
You guys did get rolled by PRX.
It was nice to see GE almost beat F4Q, but they were completely reshuffling the roles on their team.Asking for a slot directly to masters in absurd.
Something like 3~4 slots for every APAC qualifier in 2022 sounds about right.
giving SA 4 slots in a combined APAC region (similar to emea I think you mean) is much more absurd than 1 masters slot
DanielHongFromKR [#36]You guys DEFINITELY deserve slots in SEA/APAC. GE did have a nice showing. Don't let anyone take that away from you. I really liked what I saw. If the other SA teams are this good, they will have a good shot at getting though qualifiers.
But the guys above arguing for a slot in MASTERS are outta their minds.
south Asia don't want to wait another year to even get a chance at playing internationally. If you want to combine south Asia into an emea-esque APAC then APAC would need 3-4 slots like emea. which is literally more absurd then giving south Asia and OCE 1 slot each
RiNNNNN [#37]wowowowowow what the fuck are u talking about F4Q Were sweating its not GE fault they switched role u guys were sweating
We definately deserve a slot in masters if bots like koreans and brazil gets slot in masters give both team equal environment ie lan Then u will see which region is better KOREA SUCKSSSSS
You can get your point across without being plain toxic you know
looklook [#40]lol unless india makes 1 super team, india dont deserve a spot
there's good amount of val players but they need to come together to form a supersquad like vlt,xo
im worried if they immerge with SEA, teams like team xo, enigma, te cant compete as well as ge for example, theyre good team but sorry to say sea competition is on another level of tightness even x10 couldnt make it out of the group stages of vct masters berlin sea qualifiers. the throne holder for each event is changing everytime so idk about SA in with SEA
RiNNNNN [#39]iF U guys can get a slot we also can get a slot
u gonna lose all those stars of yours today if u dont stop typing lmao
Here’s my take, rito is small indie company and gives slots based on viewership, so why not give a slot to the region with the second (and I think Pakistan is like 6th? Correct me) biggest populations in the world? I get that sa isn’t amazing but japan wasn’t amazing at first too and look at how much they improved from international exposure - they nearly took a map off gambit!
not5kin [#50]Here’s my take, rito is small indie company and gives slots based on viewership, so why not give a slot to the region with the second (and I think Pakistan is like 6th? Correct me) biggest populations in the world? I get that sa isn’t amazing but japan wasn’t amazing at first too and look at how much they improved from international exposure - they nearly took a map off gambit!
I agree, Indian viewership is high.
not5kin [#50]Here’s my take, rito is small indie company and gives slots based on viewership, so why not give a slot to the region with the second (and I think Pakistan is like 6th? Correct me) biggest populations in the world? I get that sa isn’t amazing but japan wasn’t amazing at first too and look at how much they improved from international exposure - they nearly took a map off gambit!
also the production was horrible
yaiima0 [#52]Hmmm don’t think they are proven for masters slot yet, maybe APAC slots instead.
every region should get 1 masters slot regardless of "proof". LoL does this idk why valorant cannot
StockfishZ [#48]im worried if they immerge with SEA, teams like team xo, enigma, te cant compete as well as ge for example, theyre good team but sorry to say sea competition is on another level of tightness even x10 couldnt make it out of the group stages of vct masters berlin sea qualifiers. the throne holder for each event is changing everytime so idk about SA in with SEA
The problem with SEA/SA is our subregions are way too small - only limited to 1/2 countries. We need bigger subregions, or do away with subregions altogether to allow for more quality competition without delimiting who we need to play.
Also, EMEA is absolutely massive with a lot of great teams, the competition is cutthroat there, which is why their teams perform a lot well in international events. I don't think high competition is necessarily a bad thing.
nyomski [#41]Not disrespecting SA region. But wouldn’t it be better if they join a regional VCT like SEA for example. The whole reason GE is doing this good is because they knew the only way to qualify to a major (in this case Champions), is to fight their way through the APAC LCQ. If they decide to just skip over regional VCT and straight to a major this would mean that there would be less competition especially where the only dominant force in SA is only VLT and GE itself. It would be like Japan 2.0 where CR and Zeta is dominating , where in theory they are really good but since the lack of competition in VCT itself they fell easily in international competition.
Absolutely. Which is why I'm also in favour of a merger between KR and JP, competition boosts the representatives the teams send.
ireplytoidiots [#42]tbf i edited it because he might actually be a child and i'm not trying to cyber bully a kid
Now trying to be the bigger person
DanielHongFromKR [#36]You guys DEFINITELY deserve slots in SEA/APAC. GE did have a nice showing. Don't let anyone take that away from you. I really liked what I saw. If the other SA teams are this good, they will have a good shot at getting though qualifiers.
But the guys above arguing for a slot in MASTERS are outta their minds.
1 slot in masters = outta their minds but then korea deserves 2 slots for what? Nuturn got 13-0'd too and GE almost took down the next 2 teams in Korea also imagine being so retarded to judge a region with 7 countries based on ONE team and 3 games
RiNNNNN [#39]iF U guys can get a slot we also can get a slot
It's SA. We are not talking about india
DeluluGavin [#34]Maybe more APAC slots. Not straight to masters yet
I think more slot to vct sea qualifiers. That would be enough. We are not prepared for their own vct masters
yaiima0 [#52]Hmmm don’t think they are proven for masters slot yet, maybe APAC slots instead.
When did Bronzil or Japan prove themselves
RiNNNNN [#37]wowowowowow what the fuck are u talking about F4Q Were sweating its not GE fault they switched role u guys were sweating
We definately deserve a slot in masters if bots like koreans and brazil gets slot in masters give both team equal environment ie lan Then u will see which region is better KOREA SUCKSSSSS
Can you stop being begger please!
RiNNNNN [#37]wowowowowow what the fuck are u talking about F4Q Were sweating its not GE fault they switched role u guys were sweating
We definately deserve a slot in masters if bots like koreans and brazil gets slot in masters give both team equal environment ie lan Then u will see which region is better KOREA SUCKSSSSS
Your region is worse than Brazil lmao stfu
Yugure [#62]Actually next year probably every region will have at least 1 spot in Masters.
2 EMEA
2 NA
2 KR
2 BR
2 SEA
2 JPN
2 CN
2 SA
2 LATAM
2 MENA
2 CIS
2 TR
no lmao i dont watch to watch mena or china
OzyMeister [#61]1 slot in masters = outta their minds but then korea deserves 2 slots for what? Nuturn got 13-0'd too and GE almost took down the next 2 teams in Korea also imagine being so retarded to judge a region with 7 countries based on ONE team and 3 games
korea deserves 2 slots for what?
getting third at the first international LAN event over an EU and NA representative, and getting out of the hardest group at the second international LAN, beating the #2 EMEA team and only losing to the eventual champions?
???????????????????????????????????????? are you dumb in the head????
FightWasTaken [#55]every region should get 1 masters slot regardless of "proof". LoL does this idk why valorant cannot
depends in LoL theres a play-in stage but if riot decides not to use the same format for val regions shouldn't have dedicated slots
Yugure [#62]Actually next year probably every region will have at least 1 spot in Masters.
2 EMEA
2 NA
2 KR
2 BR
2 SEA
2 JPN
2 CN
2 SA
2 LATAM
2 MENA
2 CIS
2 TR
4 EMEA*
I2k2 [#65]I think more slot to vct sea qualifiers. That would be enough. We are not prepared for their own vct masters
yea thats what i meant. apac shld be fine
gaunem [#32]bro if latam and japan have a direct slot to masters there should be 1 direct slot and atleast 2 slots in lcq for south asia
There are not enough slots for all regions, CIS has 0 as well, Turkey has 0, if SA teams perform well they will get their own slot sooner or later. If anything, we need larger regions, I don't understand why EMEA gets such a treatment when Korea and Japan combined have the same number of slots as we do but any top 10 EMEA team would easily qualify from JP/KR, it would be way better to have macro regions like APAC(with 5 slots including south asia,sea and kr/jp), South America with 3 slots etc instead of what we have now.
I2k2 [#67]Can you stop being begger please!
what do u expect from india always licking others balls
Giannero [#69]Your region is worse than Brazil lmao stfu
And how can u say that they are always getting eliminated first and still get 2 slots lmao They are bad didnt improve the are shit while u havent seen South asian teams play at lan
I2k2 [#64]It's SA. We are not talking about india
U fucker look at my comment u are soo dumb wtf u smoke marijuanna i literally said weee we
SETSUZA [#72]korea deserves 2 slots for what?
getting third at the first international LAN event over an EU and NA representative, and getting out of the hardest group at the second international LAN, beating the #2 EMEA team and only losing to the eventual champions?
???????????????????????????????????????? are you dumb in the head????
that's all VS not and VS is leaps above the rest of the Korean scene this is why by same logic Korea should have 1 slot and not 2 and if Korea deserves 2 slots South Asia deserves 1 slot too