OXY as main duelist (keep at all cost)
Rossy as recon/flex (keep at all cost)
v1c as smokes
-Moose
-Xeppaa (depends on how well he does in the VCT 2025 season)
+yay as sentinel (only guaranteed sentinel upgrade that is currently LFT)
+bdog as flasher (not a guaranteed upgrade from Xeppaa, especially on this role. But this has the most potential out of any tier 2 player in NA)
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i dont think their are enough options for flash initiator that are clear upgrades from xeppaa to justify letting him go
Tf? Yay is lft? How is EG going through their second rebuild of the off season and we are still 2 months away???
make a realistic one, not the one of your dreams, because yay won't come out of eg
unknown_trash [#4]Tf? Yay is lft? How is EG going through their second rebuild of the off season and we are still 2 months away???
He is not signed yet. Purest said that EG decided to not continue with sym, implying that yay is in EG's plans
But nothing set in stone
Syr0m [#5]make a realistic one, not the one of your dreams, because yay won't come out of eg
He's not signed with EG. Probably waiting for 2025 to sign him
Ailed [#3]i dont think their are enough options for flash initiator that are clear upgrades from xeppaa to justify letting him go
replace Peppaa with Crashies, he can play flash ini. Replace M00se with Marved, instant top 4 team in americas.
I highly doubt yay would join c9 again considering how they fucked him over last time.
Farambe [#9]replace Peppaa with Crashies, he can play flash ini. Replace M00se with Marved, instant top 4 team in americas.
dont get me wrong i love crashies but is replacing xeppaa (who has extremely good chemistry with their existing duelist) with someone who is a slight upgrade actually worth it? i dont think so
the one argument i can see being made is crashies is much more proven in high leverage situations while xeppaa is off season lebron james
_Esdeath_ [#10]I highly doubt yay would join c9 again considering how they fucked him over last time.
I mean, they just couldn't afford him
I heard it was like half a million a year
And it was not really Cloud9 that fucked yay, it was the format, because Rito didn't allow teams to sign players mid way through the season
Hobbit [#12]I mean, they just couldn't afford him
I heard it was like half a million a year
And it was not really Cloud9 that fucked yay, it was the format, because Rito didn't allow teams to sign players mid way through the season
then they shouldn't have signed him
Harapan845 [#13]then they shouldn't have signed him
It was yay the one who reached Cloud9
Hobbit [#14]It was yay the one who reached Cloud9
they still shouldn't have signed him
Harapan845 [#15]they still shouldn't have signed him
The best player in the world knocks at your door and you don't answer?
And they couldn't afford him because one of their sponsors were declared bankrupt after they signed him
It's not that easy
Hobbit [#16]The best player in the world knocks at your door and you don't answer?
And they couldn't afford him because one of their sponsors were declared bankrupt after they signed him
It's not that easy
i would think in such a volatile industry they would have thought about that
Harapan845 [#17]i would think in such a volatile industry they would have thought about that
Then you could also blame yay for knocking at C9's door. Why wouldn't he think of it in such a volatile industry?
Blaming people here is useless, Cloud9 didn't fuck yay, it was Riot's format. The circumstanses were fucked, no matter the way you look at it
Hobbit [#18]Then you could also blame yay for knocking at C9's door. Why wouldn't he think of it in such a volatile industry?
Blaming people here is useless, Cloud9 didn't fuck yay, it was Riot's format. The circumstanses were fucked, no matter the way you look at it
you... you are blaming riot
Farambe [#9]replace Peppaa with Crashies, he can play flash ini. Replace M00se with Marved, instant top 4 team in americas.
Are you making Crashies not play his best role? (recon) Just to make him play flash? I would understand Crashies for Moose, because his sentinel was kinda clean, but I don't think he fits in C9 at all (at least, role wise)
Harapan845 [#19]you... you are blaming riot
The format, yes, why wouldn't I?
Harapan845 [#19]you... you are blaming riot
and yes yay should of thought of that
Hobbit [#21]The format, yes, why wouldn't I?
blaming people here is useless
Harapan845 [#23]blaming people here is useless
I said people, I'm blaming Riot's format
Hobbit [#24]I said people, I'm blaming Riot's format
i think its not all anyones fault and they all should have thought about it. c9 should not be giving that much to a player. Yay shouldn't be asking that much. Riot is just riot tbh
-xeppa
-moose
+corey
+adder
(unless they want a igl better than rossy) = +stellar : the best tier 2 NA igl, the fact he didn't get picked up by EG or C9 this offseason should be investigated
MentalSwmr [#26]-xeppa
-moose
+corey
+adder
(unless they want a igl better than rossy) = +stellar : the best tier 2 NA igl, the fact he didn't get picked up by EG or C9 this offseason should be investigated
Corey plays the exact same things that Xeppaa, which is good. But I'm not really sure if it would be that much of an upgrade
And Add3r is consistent at tier 2. Maybe it's an upgrade, but I'm not sure it would make that much of a difference
Hobbit [#20]Are you making Crashies not play his best role? (recon) Just to make him play flash? I would understand Crashies for Moose, because his sentinel was kinda clean, but I don't think he fits in C9 at all (at least, role wise)
"just to make him play flash" he has played skye breach and kayo before. I think it's a bit silly to think of crashies as a one trick sova, he can mid round and shoots back better than Peppaa, doesn't matter what he does in off season events when he's been stealing regular season paychecks for 4 years now, about to be 5. and for the "chemistry" argument, yeah I'm sure that'll help when he's dropping pi in playoff games next season, I'm sure oxy will be happy being called the "best NA duelist" but never playing internationals cuz of his "friends".
Farambe [#28]"just to make him play flash" he has played skye breach and kayo before. I think it's a bit silly to think of crashies as a one trick sova, he can mid round and shoots back better than Peppaa, doesn't matter what he does in off season events when he's been stealing regular season paychecks for 4 years now, about to be 5. and for the "chemistry" argument, yeah I'm sure that'll help when he's dropping pi in playoff games next season, I'm sure oxy will be happy being called the "best NA duelist" but never playing internationals cuz of his "friends".
Xeppaa is a better flasher than Crashies. Crashies is more flexible role wise, but I don't think that Cloud9 needs that rn
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