Liquid has to make some changes

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zahin1018

Ugh, how long are we TL fans gonna have to wait for a decent roster? The organization seriously needs to shake things up. Giving everyone endless chances isn't the answer to winning. People are gonna start to refer to liquid as a charity org at this point. Seriously, this coaching situation is a disaster.

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you had a "superteam" last year and did nothing noteworthy with it

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superteam with jamppi and soulcas is crazy

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thisisjustforpickems

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soulcas is him

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soulcas is good but inconsistent in tier 1, there is massive difference in the tier 2 scene than tier 1. like former apeks enzo, mistic, and keiko won polaris, and got 2nd in ascension, if u would look at it, u would think they have what it takes to get out of t2 and be on t1 bc they smurf there, but weak really on t1 scene.

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WUKONG

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so theyre to good for t2 but not good enough for t1 what tier are they then?

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jnm16

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idk, but they can't be on tl that's for sure. IT'S ALL THE STATS BRO. they did very well on t2 just like how soulcas is winning matches in the polaris now. but so ass now on t1, exclude keiko though (he has potential just need a better teammates).

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Tier Mid

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The problem is that youre just getting an unproven no name duelist to play in T1

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zahin1018

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Keiko isn't THAT bad

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lxd1o_o

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fr nats is ass

-nats
+zombs

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Halleluhwah

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from getting 0 maps to getting 0 rounds

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zyroware

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TL was looking very good last year after masters tokyo everything fell apart I feel like

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DelusionalNRGFan

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this team won EMEA last year and has never played as well since then they should disband

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drop everyone including coaching staff except for n0ts and rebuild

TL ShahZam
TL zombs
TL dapr
TL nAts
TL Sick

TL Rawkus

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zahin1018

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0/8

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jnm16

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L vlr user can't even rebuild right

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jnm16

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START FIRST WITH THEIR COACH, THEY NEED DECENT COACH. REMOVE ENZO FR

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they have money resources staff history fans and everything in between. but they still manage to be consistently mid since 2021. thats crazily consistent yet so mid.

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ItoG

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I feel like they should work around Nats, Jamppi gotten inconsistent aswell, Keiko does his duelist job yet Enzo and Mistic should deff gtfo

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enzo needs to go, even if his calls are good (which they aren't) his individual skill is honestly one of the worst in the league and at the current stage of valorant you simply can't be playing in tier 1 if you have bad mechanics. I think they need to just follow meta comps and maybe they'd need to get rid of emil for that cos idk what strategies him and enzo are cooking that just make the team look so shit

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seya

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I was Jamppi's lawyer but after all these rosters... Also I'm not really a born hater but Enzo makes me mad for some reason (french)

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jnm16

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i do agree w you, enzo is just all the talks,, frenchge

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-enzo
+kr1stal

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Spinach

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You've greatly underestimated Team Liquid management's ability to keep around people they need to kick. I say give it minimum 2-3 years more before Emil is even removed as the coach.

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jnm16

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then if they keep their coach and keep the roster for 2-3 years you mean, they better be on t2 lol.. even apac teams who have no big orgs like tl can beat them.

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zahin1018

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well 2-3 years more of being a mid team then

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tuxe

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idk why they're still keeping jamppi

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GAGAZ

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they sign jamppi 3 year straight
contract jail

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jnm16

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they have contract, but they can drop right? like remove - enzo fr

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honestly i think -enzo +fearoth would help the team a lot, fearoth’s intl experience plus that bind clutch vs LEV should justify him in tier 1 😊