Which league has the best bottom table (7-11)?

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drxdivine

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Psion

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Americas without a doubt

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LeCat

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Americas probably
They only have one absolutely bad team(Furia)

Emea also only have one in KOI but the rest of the bottom four are generally worse than americas one

Its definitely not Pacific with their two free wins team(Bleed and GE)

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Kirya

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M8 gx and tl would beat any bottom table americas team
And koi looks better than furia imo

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Psion

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this is bait right?

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Kirya

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No, bottom table americas teams are horrible.

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Psion

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1.Lev/Kru/g2
2.C9
3.Mibr
4.team Liquid
5.M8
6/7EG/BBL
8.GiantX
9/10Koi/Furia
again, you were baiting right?

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BoF7ooM

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C9 and KRU
Lev, Lulquid, GiantX
M8 MIBR
G2 and EG
Rest of the teams are garbage

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Psion

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you do realize i said Lev/Kru/G2 because the worst of those 3 is debatable (which team is the #5,6,7)
edit: accidentally said "Lev/Kru/C9" instead of "Lev/Kru/G2"

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BoF7ooM

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I honestly only disagree with your G2 and GiantX part tbh. G2 is shite, GiantX is pretty good. Mibr also fluked in Kickoffs.

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Psion

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I wouldn't call it a fluke, they were similar strength teams in kickoff and the loser wins rematches like 2/3 of the time in tier 1, I picked MIBR to win that at the time of it happening (i was high on furia so my pickems don't show that bc i had furia beating mibr).
G2 looked pretty good vs 100T, got 8 rounds on both maps.(more than i expected) Maybe I'm a bit high on 100T compared to the average person though.
I've just lost complete faith in redgar, until he proves something to me i'm going to assume GiantX will continue to flounder

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Kirya

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G2 is bad and c9 is overrated as fuck
GiantX is easily 1 on that list
Koi>furia
Mibr fell off already

Gx
M8/TL
TL/M8
C9
g2
EG
mibr
BBL
koi
furia

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gfnchaoz

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gx won't do shit buddy

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Kirya

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Took a map off fnatic with a player that just got into tier 1 recently and is adjusting to duelist role

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gfnchaoz

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poor purp0 needs to carry r0dg0r

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Psion

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G2 looked solid vs 100T (who is debatably top 11 ITW), ignore the EG game altogether except in relation to C9 (G2 > C9)
I was high on GiantX, but i've lost complete faith in redgar as an igl and player. There's been no good signs for them, the map they won vs FNC was FNC losing, not GiantX winning
Mibr didn't fall off, Kru is just that good
Koi vs Furia is a 50-50 game
u can rank C9 lower, still. the #1 and #2 are objectively americas teams.

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Kirya

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Mibr winning against c9 was c9 losing. They wont ever play as good
Gx was hard aim diffing and outcalling fnatic and it could've been a 13-0 if not the hero plays
Koi looks way better from eye test and on a good day they can be top 7 team in emea
G2 looked rly bad in most of their games

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Psion

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Boaster said FNC always lose their map picks or something along those lines, GiantX won on FNC's map pick because FNC looked shit, FNC looked substantially better on the other 2 maps while GiantX only looked slightly worse.
Koi definitely works more coordinated, but furia has more firepower. It just depends
G2 looked competent against a very good 100T (maybe ur lower on 100T than I am), i'm not judging kickoff because they had 2 role switches (duelist Leaf -> icy, sentinel Net -> leaf) and vs EG is whatever, its EG, but they looked much better vs EG than C9 did

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yawnster

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MadeinBronzil looked like a ranked 5 😭😭😭😭

Stop gassing it, Liquid would beat all except Lev in that list

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dapada

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I remember everybody said how stacked Americas bottom teams were, only to get humbled by EMEA LCQ winner back in Champs

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Psion

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me when i make shit up:

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dapada

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me when being delusion:

https://www.vlr.gg/247078/kr-esports-vs-giants-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-a

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Psion

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half of the posts literally had EDG vs KRU, meaning people ranked giants above EDG.

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dapada

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yeah but giants won, result matters

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Psion

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sure giants won, Giants should've won that game. they were favored by bettors.
you said "EVERYBODY" which is objectively wrong, you made shit up. less than 1/2 of people said that and its not even hyperbole because of that, its just wrong

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dapada

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bro suffering from amnesia or didn't open vlr pre-LCQ

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Psion

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idek why Navi vs Kru matters when Navi wasnt a bottom EMEA team after regular season like KRU was

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trikecycle

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China icl
Tyloo the only bad bad team and they still beat ge koi bleed bbl furia
Other 3 are all good and can contend for mid pack all regions

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Psion

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China could be #2 behind americas, Idk much but from where geospliced ranks China their 7-11 are better than where i rank PAC and EMEA

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Youre delusional. BBL would destroy Tyloo