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Who's the best player now in your opnion
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yukky [#2]aspas lol come on now
idk I just find it so weird that even SEN flairs are calling him the best again even after zekken's performance in Madrid. Is that Masters just not that important to everyone? It hasn't even been week 3 yet lmfao.
cartixuzi [#9]idk I just find it so weird that even SEN flairs are calling him the best again even after zekken's performance in Madrid. Is that Masters just not that important to everyone? It hasn't even been week 3 yet lmfao.
recency bias
vlr’s opinions change every round of a series let alone event lol
aspas and zekken can both be goats and talented
aspas has been consistent though throughout the years
cartixuzi [#9]idk I just find it so weird that even SEN flairs are calling him the best again even after zekken's performance in Madrid. Is that Masters just not that important to everyone? It hasn't even been week 3 yet lmfao.
madrid is valid in its own right but it's kinda ridiculous to suddenly gold medal zekken when you realize that aspas has already done that madrid performance multiple times over
like that was zekken's first step to make it into the CONVERSATION of best itw, nothing else
if zekken goes crazy in shanghai as well there's actually the basis of an argument there
FrenchToast [#11]recency bias
vlr’s opinions change every round of a series let alone event lol
aspas and zekken can both be goats and talentedaspas has been consistent though throughout the years
im not surprised at all after watching SEN fans call demon1 the next yay after losing 1-2 to their team but this shit even applies to their own players lmfao. You guys need to have some backbone or something unless we're just undermining the entirety of Madrid on purpose, being the best right now doesn't make you the GOAT, they don't always have to go together.
EseemedRes1180 [#12]We can't call someone the best player from one game bro. Aspas is good don't get me wrong but this season is stacked with some insane players
one game? aspas has been at the top for 2 years now!
ASTEROIDCHILD [#13]madrid is valid in its own right but it's kinda ridiculous to suddenly gold medal zekken when you realize that aspas has already done that madrid performance multiple times over
like that was zekken's first step to make it into the CONVERSATION of best itw, nothing else
if zekken goes crazy in shanghai as well there's actually the basis of an argument there
so are we saying that Madrid didn't have the best players? Does that even apply to any event last year? I mean we're just outright admitting that Madrid wasn't all that special now. Like was zekken being "the best in the world" just for show to his own org's fans?
cartixuzi [#9]idk I just find it so weird that even SEN flairs are calling him the best again even after zekken's performance in Madrid. Is that Masters just not that important to everyone? It hasn't even been week 3 yet lmfao.
did my mans forget that valorant is a team game? zekken isnt better than aspas and never was lmao
dort [#17]did my mans forget that valorant is a team game? zekken isnt better than aspas and never was lmao
always thought aspas was better though, but it's not like I'm a fan of SEN anyways
cartixuzi [#16]so are we saying that Madrid didn't have the best players? Does that even apply to any event last year? I mean we're just outright admitting that Madrid wasn't all that special now. Like was zekken being "the best in the world" just for show to his own org's fans?
no tournament will ever have "all the best players" (besides lockin but single elim xdd)
just the nature of things
ASTEROIDCHILD [#19]no tournament will ever have "all the best players" (besides lockin but single elim xdd)
just the nature of things
I mean the best of the best, like top 1 in their roles. You can't really apply that rule to ANY international historically no?
cartixuzi [#14]im not surprised at all after watching SEN fans call demon1 the next yay after losing 1-2 to their team but this shit even applies to their own players lmfao. You guys need to have some backbone or something unless we're just undermining the entirety of Madrid on purpose, being the best right now doesn't make you the GOAT, they don't always have to go together.
that’s just the nature of vlr users not just sen fans
super reactionary and doesn’t make madrid any less valid
FrenchToast [#22]that’s just the nature of vlr users not just sen fans
super reactionary and doesn’t make madrid any less valid
I'm applying it specifically to SEN fans because you guys should be the most supportive for your boy. Haven't seen fans of Demon1 switch up on him like that after his loss to SEN but you guys just won Madrid and are now collectively saying aspas clears zekken right now off a series, it's honestly devaluing in my eyes. Like are we admitting that zekken was never the best player in the world during his time in Madrid?
cartixuzi [#24]I'm applying it specifically to SEN fans because you guys should be the most supportive for your boy. Haven't seen fans of Demon1 switch up on him like that after his loss to SEN but you guys just won Madrid and are now collectively saying aspas clears zekken right now off a series, it's honestly devaluing in my eyes. Like are we admitting that zekken was never the best player in the world during his time in Madrid?
I think you're just taking it so far?
You asked who is the best player right now, I said aspas?
This doesn't mean I don't support zekken, I just acknowledge that aspas is CURRENTLY on a different tier.
Yes there is recency bias in there, but you asked for best player now in my opinion.
Don't get all rattled up lmao
cartixuzi [#24]I'm applying it specifically to SEN fans because you guys should be the most supportive for your boy. Haven't seen fans of Demon1 switch up on him like that after his loss to SEN but you guys just won Madrid and are now collectively saying aspas clears zekken right now off a series, it's honestly devaluing in my eyes. Like are we admitting that zekken was never the best player in the world during his time in Madrid?
all i’m seeing is people praising aspas and giving him his due flowers which is super valid and warranted. he’s good.
sen fans aren’t shitting on zekken at all. i’ve seen other teams shitting on him though which is stupid.
yukky [#25]I think you're just taking it so far?
You asked who is the best player right now, I said aspas?
This doesn't mean I don't support zekken, I just acknowledge that aspas is CURRENTLY on a different tier.
Yes there is recency bias in there, but you asked for best player now in my opinion.
Don't get all rattled up lmao
ive been replying to toast though wdym
FrenchToast [#26]all i’m seeing is people praising aspas and giving him his due flowers which is super valid and warranted. he’s good.
sen fans aren’t shitting on zekken at all. i’ve seen other teams shitting on him though which is stupid.
never said you guys were shitting on anyone, only devaluing imo. This feels like I'm watching Asuna_Yuuki mind control everyone or something I mean, a lot of you guys are outright admitting Madrid never had the best player itw there and I don't think you can say that for any other event.
yukky [#30]You literally started it replying to me
ya but ive been getting replying to toast, you didnt reply back in the first comment.
cartixuzi [#31]ya but ive been getting replying to toast, you didnt reply back in the first comment.
Well I don't live on VLR, but don't go and ignore my reply lol
EseemedRes1180 [#12]We can't call someone the best player from one game bro. Aspas is good don't get me wrong but this season is stacked with some insane players
man clearly doesnt watch valorant
yukky [#32]Well I don't live on VLR, but don't go and ignore my reply lol
your reply was very informative and eye opening yes
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