omen smokes < clove smokes

lets talk objective

Omen regains smoke 40 secs

She gets hers 30 secs

Hers dissipate .5 secs faster (iirc correct me)

Clove gets MORE smokes per round on average, the problem here is that omens kit is better all around atm, TP is nice on entry just to be there fast and the flash is the best in the game IMO

However lets look at clove honestly, she can smoke after death, she can vulnerable on retakes, she can revive self just to make a 1v1 a 2v1 or if she gets traded on a retake revive and prevent a flood, she can self heal to prevent trades.

Why are we acting like this agents smoke capabilities are lesser?????

clove smokes are 13 or 13.5 seconds omens are 15, its 1-1.5 seconds longer than what u said

she cant one way anywhere near as much as omen

because omen smoke more precise and omen smoke from basically anywhere
also omen smoke has nice colour

Because her kit seems so situational.
Suppose you don't get a kill or assist, that makes one ability useless. Also let's assume you don't lose any hp taking a fight or you get healed back up completely and the enemy one taps you. This isn't the case for omen, his c ability can be useful in all cases except the one where your team is playing at a huge advantage.

Her q ability time limit is a major concern, you have to expose yourself to hit a faraway target which might not even land but if you have a fade you not only get a better seize but can also do lineups. Also this ability doesn't necessarily stop a site hit. An omen paranoia or brim Molly straight up puts enemy at an huge advantage. Meanwhile cloves q ability doesn't necessarily puts you at an huge advantage since there is still a chance that enemy can one tap you.

i cant believe this post survived 22 mins without someone saying “they”

there is still hope

because the agent apart from their smokes are shit, their c is useless and will only be used in clutch situations the ult is useless if you dont have perfect teamwork and the window is so small, their q is so useless unless paired with damaging util like viper molly raze grenade, and omen's kit provides more, his C allows him to be aggressive and not get punished his paranoia gives you free map control and combined with elite teamwork with a dive duelist a set of free kills and space, + his smokes have a way longer range and on 80% of omen maps you have a second controller so you the time his smokes last dont even matter they can refresh instantly and his ult can allow him to either gain info on a different site or go for risky plays with it. Even when Clove can smoke after death it is still a very limited range, meaning if clove dies trying to enter site and clove and the entry die and the entire team is stuck main, they're 60% chance they will rotate. (I fixed pronouns mb)

omen has a global smoke range and is able to one way a lot more chokes than clove smokes