they/them isn't plural

#198

j3bx5597

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well who decides these people have rights? how do u know what rights a human has ingerently
i think you meant inherently
no one decides if a human has rights or not

How do I know that I inherently have that right from the moment which I was conceived???
you know this because it is fundamental to the identity of a human
if you are a human, you have human rights

Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs

rights aren't unique to each country

#201

smthlikeyou11

Frags

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its not unique, its universal across ALL countries that are recognized by the UN that nowhere does it say that there is a right to be free to choose what sexuality u identify as

#205

j3bx5597

Frags

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this also doesn't make sense
just because it is omitted doesn't mean you can't do something
the rights are there to prevent others from infringing upon them

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience

so you can identify as anything you want

the reason they dont explicitly mention sexuality is for fear of repercussion against LGBTQ from religious governments who would crack down harder on them, because its so contentious

#207

smthlikeyou11

Frags

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u have freedom to think yes u can think u are a 10ft demigod monster but u are not.

the reason they dont explicitly mention sexuality is for fear of repercussion against LGBTQ from religious governments who would crack down harder on them, because its so contentious

u dont know that, do u? now ur just guessing

#209

j3bx5597

Frags

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the first point is a strawman argument
arguendo (good faith arugment) no one says or does that. The reason people identify differently is because there is a legitimate condition called gender dysphoria (which you acknowledged) and have legitimate reason to identify differently

to your second point
I can't provide an article rn, but its a phenomenon observed in research done by
https://www.hrw.org/topic/lgbt-rights
https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/

Check out Victor Madrigal-Borloz and Volker Türk if you wanna learn more about it

#211

smthlikeyou11

Frags

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yes i acknowledge gender dysphoria is a thing
i also never said they CANT identify as whatever they choose to, but because that is not stated in the human rights, i can call them pronouns based on their biological sex and i wouldnt be treating them any less of a human

to ur 2nd pont
thats a PHENOMENON
that does not provide actual PROOF that UN doesnt want to do that
another human rights law btw: Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed
innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he
has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
unless u can somehow PROVE that they did it, they are innocent. U are treating them less than a human by saying otherwise.

#213

j3bx5597

Frags

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You are calling them something that they aren't how does that make sense?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/24/world/europe/putin-transgender-transition-surgery-russia.html
Was done in response to US affirmation of LTBTQ rights which shows the point clear enough

#215

smthlikeyou11

Frags

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unfortunately i cannot access the article because i am not a subscriber, but ive already said this in my other reply.
Still does not change the fact that being trans isnt a human right so i have no obligation to acknowledge it, however surgeries is another thing and for the fact the vast majority of lbgtq people do not undergo surgery

also js for context i do not reside in russia