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Oh yea about VS. For you NA fans.

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#1
Asphyxia

You might be wondering in the VS vs F4Q grand finals of Challengers stage 3 in Korea.

Why isn't Lakia playing?
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Why isn't Rb playing?

First let's understand why Rb isn't on Jett. Well. Um. Rb is not the best Jett actually. There are quite a few players in Korea who are just objectively better Jett mains. And in this roster. BuZz currently takes the Jett one trick role. And he just is a very good Jett.

So now let's tackle the second question. Why isn't Lakia playing. Honestly. I have no idea lmfao. I think it's just because he's new and they're integrating him on a few maps at a time and his agent pool is a little smaller than Rb's.

And with that previous answer. It practically also explains Rb's situation. Like Rb plays on half of the maps and Lakia plays on the other few because Lakia can't play Raze and Sage.

So currently Vision Strikers runs Lakia and Rb on these maps(REMEMBER THIS IS WITH VERY LITTLE DATA SO THIS WILL PROBABLY CHANGE):

Lakia:
Bind(Skye)
Icebox(Sova)

Rb:
Bind(Raze)
Breeze(Sova)
Split(Sage)

Unsure:
Ascent(Sova)
Haven(Skye)

Haven. Idk. They've been banning it more recently probably because they brushed up their Bind and Breeze so they are probably working on this map now. So they usually play Skye on this map. But they tried it once with Lakia and once with Rb. I wonder who will play this one.

Ascent. I mean. Lakia looks like the better Sova player here so I believe they'll put him in here. But who knows.

Bind. They seem to be running both Lakia and Rb here. With the Raze, Jett, Skye, Breach Combo which seems to be working. I think they'll keep this.

Breeze. I mean I only have them playing this once and it was against gongo prince so who knows if this is going to be their comp later. But Rb was playing Sova and Stax was playing Skye. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lakia slotted in here instead of Rb in the recent future.

Split. Probably Rb keeps playing here. Lakia doesn't know how to play Breach and I don't believe they'll run Breach, Skye TL style anyways. So they'll prob just take Rb on the Sage.

Icebox. Well Lakia plays the Sova here probably. But this was only the most recent game. But I'd be surprised to see them put Rb back on the Sova.

Thank you for reading this. Honestly there's a ton up in the air and we'll probably see a much different Vision Strikers at Masters. But this is why you might not see Rb on the Jett or Lakia not playing.

#2
yanir
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You don't have to be from NA sprcifacally to not understand what Korea is doing so this title is just cringe

#3
Asphyxia
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yanir [#2]

You don't have to be from NA sprcifacally to not understand what Korea is doing so this title is just cringe

I mean a lot of NA fans hype up VS when they don't watch their games lmfao.

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Asphyxia [#3]

I mean a lot of NA fans hype up VS when they don't watch their games lmfao.

Don't think those type of fans are on this site, if you want to reach that audience (which also exists in EU) you should post this under some pros Twitter or some shit.

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Asphyxia
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yanir [#4]

Don't think those type of fans are on this site, if you want to reach that audience (which also exists in EU) you should post this under some pros Twitter or some shit.

lmao I don't use Twitter.

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Asphyxia [#5]

lmao I don't use Twitter.

Then post it on reddit where it'll be more likely to reach your targeted audience of people who just hype up VS because they had that 100 game no loss streak

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yanir [#6]

Then post it on reddit where it'll be more likely to reach your targeted audience of people who just hype up VS because they had that 100 game no loss streak

True. I'll do that tmrw.

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yanir [#6]

Then post it on reddit where it'll be more likely to reach your targeted audience of people who just hype up VS because they had that 100 game no loss streak

whats up ur ass damn

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hacklesacka [#8]

whats up ur ass damn

Didn't mean to come off as rude as I did now that I'm rereading this my bad

#10
EndOfWorld
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VS is a cringe and stupid Team with this 6 Man shit

#11
Asphyxia
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EndOfWorld [#10]

VS is a cringe and stupid Team with this 6 Man shit

NaVi is a cringe and stupid team who only fluked to EMEA playoffs because everyone in CIS is absolute shit other than Gambit.

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Crayzid
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EndOfWorld [#10]

VS is a cringe and stupid Team with this 6 Man shit

NaVi is not winning anything

#13
zenv
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did u write that

#14
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I don't understand why they play rb on sova on some maps instead of Lakia(unless they haven't integrated him on those maps like you suggested). Lakia is hands down the best sova player in Korea and rb is certainly not(even though he's great on raze). I haven't watched too much Korean val tho so I could be wrong but I hope Lakia starts playing sova instead of rb on whatever map(s) rb is playing sova on.

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Acount123
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Don’t care + ratio

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venkymax
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why didnt u explain about king missing in some maps?? or copy-paste

#17
ILL
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But wont it fuck up the team chemistry like tht....like who plays the scrims more will surely be the difference....and both of them will play less scrims cuz of a 6 man....imo 5 man rosters are the best

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ILL [#17]

But wont it fuck up the team chemistry like tht....like who plays the scrims more will surely be the difference....and both of them will play less scrims cuz of a 6 man....imo 5 man rosters are the best

i like the new humble ILL the prev toxic one was bad gj

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hekzy
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Acount123 [#15]

Don’t care + ratio

Legends never die

#20
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EndOfWorld [#10]

VS is a cringe and stupid Team with this 6 Man shit

how? give me a reason, I think this is innovative and could deffo work. They can be more flexable unpredicatable and a scarier team generally.

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ILL [#17]

But wont it fuck up the team chemistry like tht....like who plays the scrims more will surely be the difference....and both of them will play less scrims cuz of a 6 man....imo 5 man rosters are the best

yo ILL doesnt have shit takes for once
grats

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Is Wardell better than RB?

#23
NotASinner69
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EU_quiet [#22]

Is Wardell better than RB?

As a Jett obviously Wardell is much better. In terms of flexibility Rb is better.

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cloud9bluefan
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Seem to be the only team that is actually making a 6 max roster work

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swaglord69
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goodish read ig

#26
Asphyxia
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venkymax [#16]

why didnt u explain about king missing in some maps?? or copy-paste

He's only missing on bind. Where they run the double initiator and double duelist comp. I thought it wasn't anything too noteworthy so I didn't talk about it.

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cloud9bluefan [#24]

Seem to be the only team that is actually making a 6 max roster work

I find it unlikely that they'll keep this long term. Probably one of the players will pick up the raze and stax will pick up the sage. And Rb will probably leave. I would like for it to be a 6 man roster and maybe it's because it's Korea it might work. But a lot of csgo players have this stigma against it. And if they aren't on the starting roster at all times. They feel like it's because they aren't good enough. So I think this might fall apart. But let's see.

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EU_quiet [#22]

Is Wardell better than RB?

I actually think so. Wardell does have so much value as an awper. I think Rb is a very good player with how many agents he can player. But Wardell's carry potential is really big. Probably only outdone by like TenZ, cNed, and Scream.

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NotASinner69 [#23]

As a Jett obviously Wardell is much better. In terms of flexibility Rb is better.

Exactly what you said.

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Asphyxia
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Fat_Lard [#14]

I don't understand why they play rb on sova on some maps instead of Lakia(unless they haven't integrated him on those maps like you suggested). Lakia is hands down the best sova player in Korea and rb is certainly not(even though he's great on raze). I haven't watched too much Korean val tho so I could be wrong but I hope Lakia starts playing sova instead of rb on whatever map(s) rb is playing sova on.

I don't believe he is that good on Sova. But I'm guessing it's because they only have started using Lakia really recently. I think they'll probably put all the sova maps on Lakia and then divide up the skye maps. I'm guessing Rb might play Skye on Haven. But most likely Rb will probably just play Raze and Skye. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the players pick up his role and then Rb gets dropped. Because that is very likely to happen over time. Stax can pick up the sage and Lakia on pick up the Breach on Split. And then I'm not sure about the Raze on Bind.

Hopefully they keep this 6 man roster together because I like the flexibility. But because it's a 6 man roster in a tactical fps. Arguments and disagreements start much more easily.

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Asphyxia
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zenv [#13]

did u write that

Yes

#32
FireII
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Asphyxia [#27]

I find it unlikely that they'll keep this long term. Probably one of the players will pick up the raze and stax will pick up the sage. And Rb will probably leave. I would like for it to be a 6 man roster and maybe it's because it's Korea it might work. But a lot of csgo players have this stigma against it. And if they aren't on the starting roster at all times. They feel like it's because they aren't good enough. So I think this might fall apart. But let's see.

Lakia may use raze

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Asphyxia
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FireII [#32]

Lakia may use raze

True but then King would have to flex onto Skye. Which honestly could be interesting. Never seen him play Skye though.

Or maybe they run a different comp with Sage instead of Skye. You would have a lack of info without a Skye or Sova. But I think VS can make that work. Or maybe they put Stax on the Skye instead of the Breach to still have that amount of info.

Or maybe they can put BuZz off the Jett and put him on a Kay/O or a Sage or even Raze. Any of those would work on Bind.

Because if they run a Kay/O. They can have Stax on Breach or Skye. And then Lakia on Sova or Raze. And then Mako on Viper I guess. And then King on Killjoy or Cypher. This would be a triple Initiator comp if Lakia plays Sova but honestly I think triple Initiator is relatively strong in util dump style teams. I know that VS is going away from that style a little. But I think they can be the ones to pull it off. And if Lakia plays Raze. This is just a good comp.

And if they run a Sage. They can Have it be like Sage(BuZz), Raze(Lakia), Skye(Stax), Viper(Mako), Killjoy/Cypher(King). Really basic. But it's honestly really meta. I think this is the comp that Vision Strikers should run. But it's prob not happening.

And if they run a Raze on BuZz. They can have it be like Raze(BuZz), Skye(Lakia), Breach(Stax), Viper(Mako), Killjoy(King).

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Origin
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you have too much time

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Asphyxia
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Origin [#34]

you have too much time

True

#36
Asphyxia
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swaglord69 [#25]

goodish read ig

thx

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Asphyxia
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ILL [#17]

But wont it fuck up the team chemistry like tht....like who plays the scrims more will surely be the difference....and both of them will play less scrims cuz of a 6 man....imo 5 man rosters are the best

Rare ILL W. I'm not sure if this is sustainable long term. But it seems to be working for the moment. I think they just do it per map so maybe it might work. But let's see.

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SETSUZA
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i remember lakia playing raze against v1 and it seemed really clean, what happened?

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Asphyxia
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SETSUZA [#38]

i remember lakia playing raze against v1 and it seemed really clean, what happened?

Idk. I think it messes with team composition. We don't really know too much. But I'm guessing that they tried Rb on Skye and Lakia on Raze. And it didn't work.

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