In my opinion these are the best players currently in NA
- Wardell
- Bang
- Tenz
- Zekken
- Sinatraa
- Asunaa
- PennyS
- Yay
- SicK
- Zombs
FieN0m [#4]Am a TSM fan as well but you are definitely high.
Just wait till TSM win both playoffs and Berlin and return to this thread #TSMWIN
Cheasle2 [#5]so much delusion. Sick is the best NA player by miles.
You clearly haven't been watching TSM matches to see how much of a menace Wardell is in the server
schlong [#6]Amazing list, perhaps the greatest analysis of talent I've seen in my life, I never knew someone could make a list this perfect, I mean who would have thought to put the best player in the world below a player who isn't even the best on TSM? Brilliance right here I say
The worst player on TSM is greater than the entirety of NA
SwweHD [#7]Just wait till TSM win both playoffs and Berlin and return to this thread #TSMWIN
Are you blind? I said I am a TSM fan as well, will always be through their ups and downs. But we have not seen Sen play TSM yet so TenZ is still no 1 imo
Flamephoenix11 [#11]your list
- Can only use Op
- Inconsistent
- The True Number 1
- Pretty Good needs to prove himself
- Federal Criminal
- #2 potential for #1
- Inconsistent but good
- El Diablo Pog
- Most Consistent/Flexible #SicKnation
- Zombs not even top 50 players NA (nitr0> marved> ethan> dapr>)
Mad +ratio
Flamephoenix11 [#11]your list
- Can only use Op
- Inconsistent
- The True Number 1
- Pretty Good needs to prove himself
- Federal Criminal
- #2 potential for #1
- Inconsistent but good
- El Diablo Pog
- Most Consistent/Flexible #SicKnation
- Zombs not even top 50 players NA (nitr0> marved> ethan> dapr>)
your argument to sinatraa being #5 is being a federal criminal??
I disagree with his #5 placement too but seriously that's your reasoning? Jesus christ
also zombs not even top 50 NA lol 0/8
Flamephoenix11 [#11]your list
- Can only use Op
- Inconsistent
- The True Number 1
- Pretty Good needs to prove himself
- Federal Criminal
- #2 potential for #1
- Inconsistent but good
- El Diablo Pog
- Most Consistent/Flexible #SicKnation
- Zombs not even top 50 players NA (nitr0> marved> ethan> dapr>)
TRUE HAHAHAHA
As a tsm fan this is what i feel like the most accurate top 5 best duelist/players (all duelist).
lMikeyl [#17]As a tsm fan this is what i feel like the most accurate top 5 best duelist/players (all duelist).
- Tenz (undoubtedly the best overall player in NA and contention to be the best in the world)- Shown how good he was in lan.
- Asuna (hes only a level below tenz in terms of fragging ability and can even maybe compete in his level if hes having a really good game)-Show multiple times that hes capable of being a top tier duelist with the highkill record before nature broke it.
- *Now this is a tough decision because theres 2 in contention that I think are very close not in terms of level but in terms of impact in their team.
Shazam (arguably the best igl in the world and his skills if i were to describe his skill is that he has no strength but he also has no weaknesses. his skills are so cleanly polished that hes what a peak balanced player looks like.)Hes shown that he could triumph other superhouses both in NA and Lan with his igl capabilities
Wardell (best awper in NA and has insane fragging abilities with an awp and can be relied on to get first kill every single round without having to worry. very underrated rifling and very good pistol user.) Has gone 20+ Fk in multiple sets of matches and has dif every other awper hes played against. Teams gets scared of peeking him and has able to capitalize that to his advantage as shown multiple times in his games.
REASON THEY ARE TIED= It seems wrong to put the best awper in NA to be only top 4 but its also seems wrong to underhand shazham as a player because he doesnt have any S-tier skill. Once they clash it out ill update the list to whoever does better in the match.- Yay (The wardell version of rifling. teams are scared to peak this ping demon because of his insane fragging abilities) was nicknamed "EL Diablo" by multiple pros. thats all u need to know
- Open spot
Im sorry for your loss, im not reading all of that +ratio
Neon74 [#14]your argument to sinatraa being #5 is being a federal criminal??
I disagree with his #5 placement too but seriously that's your reasoning? Jesus christ
also zombs not even top 50 NA lol 0/8
maybe not top 50 NA was an exaggeration but him being there instead of shaz, or sick, or dapr or literally anyone on any top 5 team is just wrong
lMikeyl [#17]As a tsm fan this is what i feel like the most accurate top 5 best duelist/players (all duelist).
- Tenz (undoubtedly the best overall player in NA and contention to be the best in the world)- Shown how good he was in lan.
- Asuna (hes only a level below tenz in terms of fragging ability and can even maybe compete in his level if hes having a really good game)-Show multiple times that hes capable of being a top tier duelist with the highkill record before nature broke it.
- *Now this is a tough decision because theres 2 in contention that I think are very close not in terms of level but in terms of impact in their team.
Shazam (arguably the best igl in the world and his skills if i were to describe his skill is that he has no strength but he also has no weaknesses. his skills are so cleanly polished that hes what a peak balanced player looks like.)Hes shown that he could triumph other superhouses both in NA and Lan with his igl capabilities
Wardell (best awper in NA and has insane fragging abilities with an awp and can be relied on to get first kill every single round without having to worry. very underrated rifling and very good pistol user.) Has gone 20+ Fk in multiple sets of matches and has dif every other awper hes played against. Teams gets scared of peeking him and has able to capitalize that to his advantage as shown multiple times in his games.
REASON THEY ARE TIED= It seems wrong to put the best awper in NA to be only top 4 but its also seems wrong to underhand shazham as a player because he doesnt have any S-tier skill. Once they clash it out ill update the list to whoever does better in the match.- Yay (The wardell version of rifling. teams are scared to peak this ping demon because of his insane fragging abilities) was nicknamed "EL Diablo" by multiple pros. thats all u need to know
- Open spot
I agree with the list.
Wardell is definitelly the better AWPER but people forget that Shahzam's IGLing abilities is what makes Sentinels function like they do. Individually they are all talented but what's a team without their playmaker?
Flamephoenix11 [#19]maybe not top 50 NA was an exaggeration but him being there instead of shaz, or sick, or dapr or literally anyone on any top 5 team is just wrong
shaz is not top 10
only SicK and TenZ deserves to be in top 10
dapr, zombs, and shaz not far from top 10 but close
CreepyCypherMain [#3]sad Asuna noises
homie changed the post so my comment doesnt make sense anymore Sadge
SwweHD [#8]You clearly haven't been watching TSM matches to see how much of a menace Wardell is in the server
you clearly only watched TSM games
SwweHD [#7]Just wait till TSM win both playoffs and Berlin and return to this thread #TSMWIN
man.... tell me what u smoking
lMikeyl [#17]As a tsm fan this is what i feel like the most accurate top 5 best duelist/players (all duelist).
- Tenz (undoubtedly the best overall player in NA and contention to be the best in the world)- Shown how good he was in lan.
- Asuna (hes only a level below tenz in terms of fragging ability and can even maybe compete in his level if hes having a really good game)-Show multiple times that hes capable of being a top tier duelist with the highkill record before nature broke it.
- *Now this is a tough decision because theres 2 in contention that I think are very close not in terms of level but in terms of impact in their team.
Shazam (arguably the best igl in the world and his skills if i were to describe his skill is that he has no strength but he also has no weaknesses. his skills are so cleanly polished that hes what a peak balanced player looks like.)Hes shown that he could triumph other superhouses both in NA and Lan with his igl capabilities
Wardell (best awper in NA and has insane fragging abilities with an awp and can be relied on to get first kill every single round without having to worry. very underrated rifling and very good pistol user.) Has gone 20+ Fk in multiple sets of matches and has dif every other awper hes played against. Teams gets scared of peeking him and has able to capitalize that to his advantage as shown multiple times in his games.
REASON THEY ARE TIED= It seems wrong to put the best awper in NA to be only top 4 but its also seems wrong to underhand shazham as a player because he doesnt have any S-tier skill. Once they clash it out ill update the list to whoever does better in the match.- Yay (The wardell version of rifling. teams are scared to peak this ping demon because of his insane fragging abilities) was nicknamed "EL Diablo" by multiple pros. thats all u need to know
- Open spot
i agree with everything you said except for Wardell best awper? Have you seen Shahzam with the awp? every map he plays Jett on he's so impactful on the awp. Especially Icebox, the guy consistently drops 22+ kills on icebox majority being the awp? Wardell is an INSANEEEEEEEEEE AWPER as well but you just can't forget about Shahz, idk if maybe you didn't know shahz awping was good or he forgot but i just wanted to say that. But everything else i 100% agree with in ur list. It is S-Tier if i may say so myself.
Kiko [#23]1.wardell/babybay
2.wardell/babybay
3.Corey
4.Bang
5.Subroza
6.ZachaREEE
7.Leviathan
8.BabyJ
9.Rawkus
10.hazed
ok this is a level beyond high
Flamephoenix11 [#11]your list
- Can only use Op
- Inconsistent
- The True Number 1
- Pretty Good needs to prove himself
- Federal Criminal
- #2 potential for #1
- Inconsistent but good
- El Diablo Pog
- Most Consistent/Flexible #SicKnation
- Zombs not even top 50 players NA (nitr0> marved> ethan> dapr>)
LOL
SwweHD [#8]You clearly haven't been watching TSM matches to see how much of a menace Wardell is in the server
lmao TSM vs T 1.5 teams
blicey [#34]lmao TSM vs T 1.5 teams
Exactly, tier 1 teams on NA are Sentinels, XSET, 100T and Envy (the weaker tier 1)
PoloSway [#27]i agree with everything you said except for Wardell best awper? Have you seen Shahzam with the awp? every map he plays Jett on he's so impactful on the awp. Especially Icebox, the guy consistently drops 22+ kills on icebox majority being the awp? Wardell is an INSANEEEEEEEEEE AWPER as well but you just can't forget about Shahz, idk if maybe you didn't know shahz awping was good or he forgot but i just wanted to say that. But everything else i 100% agree with in ur list. It is S-Tier if i may say so myself.
You dont get it. Wardell is simply the best awper because he can use it on defense and atk . And have you seen his fk-fd ratio in this latest tournament? And shazam oping just got popular in icelan , because everyone has lan ping. I think wardell on LAN will solidify him of being the best awper in valorant rn.
CreepyCypherMain [#22]homie changed the post so my comment doesnt make sense anymore Sadge
still pretty sadge
PoloSway [#27]i agree with everything you said except for Wardell best awper? Have you seen Shahzam with the awp? every map he plays Jett on he's so impactful on the awp. Especially Icebox, the guy consistently drops 22+ kills on icebox majority being the awp? Wardell is an INSANEEEEEEEEEE AWPER as well but you just can't forget about Shahz, idk if maybe you didn't know shahz awping was good or he forgot but i just wanted to say that. But everything else i 100% agree with in ur list. It is S-Tier if i may say so myself.
with all due respect shazham is a great awper and im not gonna argue against that but theres key differences between shazham and wardell. shazham doesnt rely on the awp which is the clear difference between their playstyle. shazham will never entry or get first contact with an awp. he would let tenz go in first and that is how he usually gets his kills. he post's up on angles and predict other teams mistakes but wardell does everything with an awp. wardell doesnt have anyone to rely to to go in for him or doesnt have a star play like tenz who would force the other team to make mistakes and peak shazham. wardell has to create his own opportunities to get picks and has been damn great at doing it. alot of pros actually has said that wardell is only second to cned even outside of NA BUT i think we need to see him play in lan first.
AllAimNoBrain [#44]Lmao wardell number 1? Seems like people forgot the ACTUAL tier 1 teams that are in the playoffs. TSM literally played against tier 1.5 teams.
They literally played a qualifier to a qualifier and a seeding game and viola! TSM ranked 2nd on VLR ranking and Wardell and bang top 2 players NA ...ABSURD!!!!
Kiko [#23]1.wardell/babybay
2.wardell/babybay
3.Corey
4.Bang
5.Subroza
6.ZachaREEE
7.Leviathan
8.BabyJ
9.Rawkus
10.hazed
You are only rating people from challengers 2, I see...
blicey [#33]delusional TSM fan, its like everyone forgot about the top 4 teams in NA
Ikr not even 1 player from the best team in NA: Brimstone Gaming
Neon74 [#21]shaz is not top 10
only SicK and TenZ deserves to be in top 10
dapr, zombs, and shaz not far from top 10 but close
I'd say Shahz is top 10 for how good he is at his job. He frags, IGL's and Coaches. He also flexes, so he's really viable. He's also a really damn good oper. I'd say he's around 8th but not near the top.