surely you put tex on chamber right?
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B1itz [#6]"Lotus is a good Chamber map" This is bait right? Surely you dont actually hold this opinion?
i mean the goat played chamber there
Liem [#9]i mean the goat played chamber there
y0y is a chamber abuser lil bro that is why he fell of be happy tex can play supportive roles
Liem [#9]i mean the goat played chamber there
That was right after chamber nerf no one really knew how well chamber would be so I think they just experimented
Liem [#9]i mean the goat played chamber there
Yea I know forsaken played chamber but it is a really shit map for chamber. On defense, aside from aggressive peeks (which have been nerfed massively), he provides no other value. His trip is also horrendous due to range issues on a big map like lotus. On attack he is even worse because he is only good on ecos. His tp's are situational and can do miracles but he is not worth picking over cypher or kj that are defensively better, better for post plants like kj or better as a lurker like cypher on attack
WhoseTao [#13]Yea I know forsaken played chamber but it is a really shit map for chamber. On defense, aside from aggressive peeks (which have been nerfed massively), he provides no other value. His trip is also horrendous due to range issues on a big map like lotus. On attack he is even worse because he is only good on ecos. His tp's are situational and can do miracles but he is not worth picking over cypher or kj that are defensively better, better for post plants like kj or better as a lurker like cypher on attack
his trip is fine on lotus. he can play c on site and pit his trip on b. its same range as kj alarmbot
B1itz [#6]"Lotus is a good Chamber map" This is bait right? Surely you dont actually hold this opinion?
nah liem plays chamber on lotus so its meta
Liem [#14]his trip is fine on lotus. he can play c on site and pit his trip on b. its same range as kj alarmbot
his trip is dog???? Can barely stop a push, can be smoked, easy to break and just go into site. If he plays c, he'll have to set a tp at waterfall so he can aggressively take mount control. That's it, all chamber on defense can do is play aggressively but thats useless when you'll get a dog, a flash and much more utility to make him tp before he can even get a fight. And if he plays in site then its even more troll because raze nade + satchels + the team flooding in and you're dead. There is a reason why kj and cypher usually play off site with their util when solo anchoring because the guy in site can get pinched
Liem [#9]i mean the goat played chamber there
The problem is it can be a good chamber map and KJ can still clear. Only maps chamber is better than KJ on is Sunset and Breeze.
Manaphy [#17]The problem is it can be a good chamber map and KJ can still clear. Only maps chamber is better than KJ on is Sunset and Breeze.
bind too no? tex always played chamber on Guard on bind
Liem [#18]bind too no? tex always played chamber on Guard on bind
Oh yeah but I think Cypher with the new buffs is better. There's really no room for chamber outside of being a niche pick or former chamber players trying to tap back into that magic on chamber.
Manaphy [#21]Oh yeah but I think Cypher with the new buffs is better. There's really no room for chamber outside of being a niche pick or former chamber players trying to tap back into that magic on chamber.
yes and tex is former chamber player. thats why i wrote he should play chamber
Liem [#23]yes and tex is former chamber player. thats why i wrote he should play chamber
Even then KJ just clears. It would be nice to have some diversity, but KJ and Cypher are just too good and consistent to not pick. Hope that changes though.
Manaphy [#24]Even then KJ just clears. It would be nice to have some diversity, but KJ and Cypher are just too good and consistent to not pick. Hope that changes though.
cypher is better on breeze, sunset and bind
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