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KD vs ACS

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#1
Uncleben

Hot take but I think kd is more indicative of good players over ACS/ADR or even rating
Kd can be boosted by baiting or eco frags/exits, but if u look at winning teams in tournaments, the winning team usually have the highest KDs
At the end of the day it’s a shooter game and killing someone and not dying is more important than anything

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333triplethreat
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i mean technically u could say the winning team prob has the higher ACS or ADR .....

#3
jkjkjk
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ADR, generally speaking, is the most important in any FPS game. K/D can be very misleading

#4
NajibRazak
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K/D can be very misleading ngl. I could be baiting constantly and saving to avoid dying to have a good k/d. Does this mean I'm a good player? Obviously not.

#5
voovoovoo
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DD(damage differential) is very crucial and I have noticed that RR tends to increase with good DD and close to 1K/D.

#6
hiyo
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ACS is shitty because it doesn't take into account clutches
k/d is also shitty because you said baiting
Rating like vlr is fine idk the formula but it's pretty consistent
I also like DD delta and ADR but damage also isn't completely indicative of a player's performance
Seems like there's no good metric for player performance

#7
333triplethreat
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idk if fine is the word for rating becuz ur rating can be hella high if u bait too

#8
FaceNeck
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Both are pretty misleading that's why you have so many braindead people saying how certain players suck because they don't have a bunch of kills while their literal role is holding flank/not taking fights because of their post-plant util/retake utility being so important.

#9
Okoretro
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Here's the thing ACS majorly favors duelists (first kills give way more acs than last kills) so ACS should be used to compare duelists

When it comes to Initiators I think KAST should be considered (how much impact they have each round with their util etc)

Any type of lurker role should have a high KD so Sentinels and Controllers (mainly Astra/Viper)

#10
XanXanUk
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At the end of the day it’s a shooter game and killing someone and not dying is more important than anything

defusing and planting the spike is THE most important thing
everything else is secondary and optional (IF you defuse and plant)

#12
brobeans
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this is how Sentinels coped when we they had shroud die planting spike every round

#11
brobeans
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kd ratio

#13
vipermommydomme
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This is dumb because KD is included in ACS. Why would pure KD be a better representation of impact than KD mixed with assists and entries/impact frags. It's not like ACS or Rating don't count KD.

Usually if you have less kills but more ACS you did a lot more damage or had more entries/first bloods.

#14
Okoretro
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thats just plain wrong ACS does in fact not count KD instead it only accounts for Kills regardless of the amount of deaths

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