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REAL SOUTH ASIA PROBLEM

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AquaMarine_gg

ALL those demanding GE to field a full 5 man indian roster can have a look at this- (ain't reading allat + haters can leave)

Lets look at some young talents teams but are they really good?-

  1. Current players of grayfox esports- panzer asdf melody ayanq badlove - WASHED AF been cycling around orgs since 2022 lost to a random pakistani 5 stack in tourney despite of having previous bleed and gods reign coach (1 of best coach in india) losing to a team despite of huge ping advantage and bootcamp, it is inexcusable so count them out for contention into ge squad ever
    1. current players of Goblin defenders - looked promising definetly deserves an org in south asia but they havent even entered tier 1 South asia - need a coach + org, out for contention for 2024 surely for ge squad.


NOW LETS LOOK AT SOME YOUNG players that indians demand to be in team -

1.tricky
2.venka
3.saun
4.techno
5.kohli
6.deadly10
7.levii
8.doxer
9.dc rulz
10.KIBO
11.tryst

these are CURRENTLY PLAYING T1 valo in south asia

now the problem -
1 tricky saun and dc are underage
2 As stated by GE ceo you cannot be in indian university and be applying for korean business visa, kohli was offered to be in ge team but he already joined uni
3 GAMING is still very high risk and these young guns are not willing to risk their education for a GE experiment.
OUR AUDIENCE ALWAYS BASHES GE FOR not taking any young guns, but are young players really ready to comit to korea? Does visa problem and their families allow that ? if we look lightning fast was ready to take a break for studies <yes possibly the best player from india whose slot + salary were secured>

WHICH players are left????
OHH MY GOD WE ARE LEFT ULTIMATELY WITH THE GOOD OLD BOOMERS OF CSGO which we know would be a waste to spent money on.

THE SOLUTION ?
1.make academy team that visits korea each month for a week to practise with different playstyles and get insights from franchised coach ( requires only tourist visa)

  1. suggest in comments
  2. i will get hate for this but pak players seem to have tactical depth +mechanics but same visa problem
  3. GET some indian player like zephe into mix just for training as anyways he is 15 and cannot compete in south asia

I THINK GE CEO HAS NO CHOICE, someone mentioned they are turning profitable , he is paying huge sums of money and wants to be close to contenders,I AM sure investors would slam him if he makes another dfm but worse.It is better for ge to get sucess as org first with 1 indian in roster and then slowly start injecting indian players.
THEY are already hosting tourneys like underground to look for underdogs

WE SHOULD REALLY FOCUS ON BRINGING UP THE GAME IN OUR OWN REGION and make it competitive, one sided wins like OG makes them comfortable and look how overconfident they went into assension. IF we somehow get close game in assension + ge performs we get the audience that left SA valo and went for international, and more local tourneys will be organised

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AzShun
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If they choose to go with 5 Indian Players, 11th place at best

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AzShun [#2]

If they choose to go with 5 Indian Players, 11th place at best

just imagine getting absolute demolished 13-0 13-1 every game, what players mental will be ? that too 18-19y olds that have 0 maturity + ge will be global meme team, riot may cutoff funds or actually relegate them for being practise ground for every team, 1 indian in roster and we get indian rep + riot happy is better

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I feel sorry for my Indian brothers for saying it's better for the region if GE goes full Indian roster

I'm really proud of India for losing all of the matches at APAC when we were already given so many chances but still can't improve, please don't waste the spot on us anymore🗿

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Domination [#4]

I feel sorry for my Indian brothers for saying it's better for the region if GE goes full Indian roster

I'm really proud of India for losing all of the matches at APAC when we were already given so many chances but still can't improve, please don't waste the spot on us anymore🗿

fr tho ge gave 5 indians chances for 2 years, they couldnt do the required and now GE are taking route they like

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This is what I always said about making a GE squad with 5 Indians, it doesn't make sense from a CEO Pov like Rushi Sir, who knows Indian esports scene for so long. If I were in his place, I would prefer the orgs betterment even if it means no Indians in roaster.
Also, it's a business not a dharmsala where they give chance to prove yourself, if you want to prove play premiere and win ascension gl.

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we went like 0-4 with all international players before we recovered some of it in the end. I'd like to go 0-4 with Indian players. LATAM players or JP players werent strong initially too until they had 1 year to actually play with their team at the highest level. JP teams are still not highly rated but the top team was formed. You are literally advocating for a region to die just to appease to some imaginary short term rewards which are not there. Long term projects take time but are rewarding. Players dont have incentive so they dont play, leading to society in India not letting cracked zoomers to spend time on it, leading to no strength.

But, I do agree on other points regarding Indian families offering no support.

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Domination [#4]

I feel sorry for my Indian brothers for saying it's better for the region if GE goes full Indian roster

I'm really proud of India for losing all of the matches at APAC when we were already given so many chances but still can't improve, please don't waste the spot on us anymore🗿

we

arent you from bangladesh, pakistan, or a muslim who hates India?

given so many chances

when? we played like 1-2 matches at the T1 level with full indian rosters. Those are not chances.

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AquaMarine_gg [#3]

just imagine getting absolute demolished 13-0 13-1 every game, what players mental will be ? that too 18-19y olds that have 0 maturity + ge will be global meme team, riot may cutoff funds or actually relegate them for being practise ground for every team, 1 indian in roster and we get indian rep + riot happy is better

DFM got 0-9 nothing happened

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AquaMarine_gg
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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#9]

DFM got 0-9 nothing happened

dfm will anyway handle it cause of their league and other division, ge literally has another poopg mobile division and thats it

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make a 10 man roster like eg, then do an open tryout for the reserve team. I mean ge phoenix did well right?

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crashhacker1 [#8]

we

arent you from bangladesh, pakistan, or a muslim who hates India?

given so many chances

when? we played like 1-2 matches at the T1 level with full indian rosters. Those are not chances.

bro 2021 2022 exist 🗿

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DrudaL [#12]

bro 2021 2022 exist 🗿

and? when did they play T1 with 5 Indians? and how many matches?

#14
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once that venka turns 18 , ge should go for him

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AquaMarine_gg [#10]

dfm will anyway handle it cause of their league and other division, ge literally has another poopg mobile division and thats it

atleast there's a chance to improve if GE sign 5 young Indian players. But no, GE choose to keep kappafor 3years and now they sign 5 international players tf.

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crashhacker1 [#13]

and? when did they play T1 with 5 Indians? and how many matches?

idk here u referred t1 to apac or international, but every Indian team always got grouped or u want India got direct spot to international event?

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crashhacker1 [#7]

we went like 0-4 with all international players before we recovered some of it in the end. I'd like to go 0-4 with Indian players. LATAM players or JP players werent strong initially too until they had 1 year to actually play with their team at the highest level. JP teams are still not highly rated but the top team was formed. You are literally advocating for a region to die just to appease to some imaginary short term rewards which are not there. Long term projects take time but are rewarding. Players dont have incentive so they dont play, leading to society in India not letting cracked zoomers to spend time on it, leading to no strength.

But, I do agree on other points regarding Indian families offering no support.

MY WHOLE POINT IS LONG TERM PLAYERS KO LANA H SHORT TERM GHUSA KE NHI HOGA kyonki cs boomers aint it, and most youngsters cant commit, japan pe scene bhle hi kam tha fps ka but indian cs peak se 100 times better performance thi. We need to improve groundwork first manle 5indians khel liye and they won shit in 2 years, who will you replace with? another set of washed bots? Idhr pros se radiant pahucha nhi jata aur khelna h franchise, tbhi academy/training lao aur apna assension sudharo. LETS start with 3 indian win in assension first.

bro saying they went 4-0?????????? they lost to drx t1 and zeta and guess what they were top 4 teams of pacific, we defeated talon geng and dfm choked must win against rrq and ts, it was 0-3 that too super close

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AquaMarine_gg
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Clayy [#11]

make a 10 man roster like eg, then do an open tryout for the reserve team. I mean ge phoenix did well right?

yeah

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crashhacker1
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DrudaL [#16]

idk here u referred t1 to apac or international, but every Indian team always got grouped or u want India got direct spot to international event?

wtf? its obviously apac qualifiers/lcq. we played a couple matches or max 4-5 with full indian roster at the top level before our players split up and franchising started. We didnt get as many chances as some other teams with full region teams. We're not good at FPS so we deffo need more time at the top level & the franchising was expected to have a full Indian roster before my guy went KR retirement home. I never asked for a direct spot, dont need to be so aggressive. I do want a full Indian roster which I dont think we're gonna get halting any improvement for our region.

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AquaMarine_gg [#17]

MY WHOLE POINT IS LONG TERM PLAYERS KO LANA H SHORT TERM GHUSA KE NHI HOGA kyonki cs boomers aint it, and most youngsters cant commit, japan pe scene bhle hi kam tha fps ka but indian cs peak se 100 times better performance thi. We need to improve groundwork first manle 5indians khel liye and they won shit in 2 years, who will you replace with? another set of washed bots? Idhr pros se radiant pahucha nhi jata aur khelna h franchise, tbhi academy/training lao aur apna assension sudharo. LETS start with 3 indian win in assension first.

bro saying they went 4-0?????????? they lost to drx t1 and zeta and guess what they were top 4 teams of pacific, we defeated talon geng and dfm choked must win against rrq and ts, it was 0-3 that too super close

SHORT TERM GHUSA KE NHI HOGA

franchising is 4 years, mere bhai.

#21
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Clayy [#11]

make a 10 man roster like eg, then do an open tryout for the reserve team. I mean ge phoenix did well right?

Last time they took open tryouts for GE they benched Kohli for ages

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feel like I need to comment here to clarify a few things. The GrayFox boys were not with me when they lost and the Pakistani stack they lost to is comprised of actual talents, not overly hyped ones. I am helping them but I will not be biased in any of my views regarding anyone, like always.

Also, I agree that most of you view them as washed. But, I think everyone, even those you consider washed, deserve chances, if not your respect, if they are putting in hours way beyond what is considered a minimum requirement. Only a handful make it to franchise. That doesn't invalidate the other players and their passion for the game.

They might be going from org to org but if you ever sit down with them for a week, you will realize they harbour the same passion as anyone, even the ones you think are good or great.

The best a player or any aspiring member of the community can do is to put in hours efficiently. Also, as washed up as any player in our region is, if they can still improve, want to improve and are taking steps in order to make sure they improve, I think they deserve a chance.

Washed up or not, you do things the right way for the right motivation, you deserve a chance.

As for the GE conundrum, I believe GE should be free of any limitations and be allowed to take any decisions. When we talk about Indian representation, why is it always limited to the players? Aren't staff, members of management and others deserving of falling under the same criteria?

Whether GE have an Indian player or not, they are still an Indian organization and will continue to be so, unless things change someday. They have a choice to make between success and uplifting the Indian community, according to us. However, bringing in success will also aid the community's development. You have a choice as well. You can choose to support an Indian org because they represent India or choose not to simply because they don't have enough Indian players. Everyone has a choice.

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Valgod
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I think they should sign skrossi

#24
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Getting talent in India is extremely hard as a lot of families prefer their kid to study and these types of jobs are generally frowned upon or not supported by people close to you unless you’re making a shit load of money. There is also the fact that a lot of people in India don’t have access to a computer or laptop to play games on.

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Payzz
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Full Indian roster? Blud want DFM win first match

#26
lipton13
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Marzil
Lightningfast
RvK
rawfiul
vibhorr
the only acceptable indian roster to me

#27
Vandal_On_My_Flag
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🗿

#28
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Ballsamolee [#24]

Getting talent in India is extremely hard as a lot of families prefer their kid to study and these types of jobs are generally frowned upon or not supported by people close to you unless you’re making a shit load of money. There is also the fact that a lot of people in India don’t have access to a computer or laptop to play games on.

++1

#29
ShuGo
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I have hope for the Indian Scene of Valorant

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crashhacker1 [#8]

we

arent you from bangladesh, pakistan, or a muslim who hates India?

given so many chances

when? we played like 1-2 matches at the T1 level with full indian rosters. Those are not chances.

he's from kolkata asylum 🗿

#31
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lipton13 [#26]

Marzil
Lightningfast
RvK
rawfiul
vibhorr
the only acceptable indian roster to me

bro imo marzil,vibhorr are not good at all for ascension level, leave franchising level... Rvk showed promises at 1st but not to be highly impressed of, but yeah he can do something.. rawfiul and Lf are the only ones that I think can do good in franchise level.

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let's take over DFM spot🔥🔥🔥🔥

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