Better top 4? | VLR.gg

#1

NioMS

Loud > EG > Acend?
Gambit > Optic > Paper Rex?
Loud > TL/Krü > Drx?
Fnatic > Fpx > TL/Krü?

#2

Asuna_Yuuki

3

Frags

+

–

FPX > FNATIC
OpTic > GAMBIT

#4

NioMS

-6

Frags

+

–

Definitely not optic over Gambit

#7

vastiraa

5

Frags

+

–

i dont see why not?

optic's 2022 > gambit's 2021 easily

#8

Kirya

-7

Frags

+

–

Optic only won 1 trophy when the best team couldnt attend
Gambit won 1 trophy and almost won champions and then disbanded only cause of the war
Gambit clears

#10

s0ber

3

Frags

+

–

Optic also almost won champs?

#11

Kirya

-5

Frags

+

–

Easy bracket and gambit's score was way closer in finals

#12

vastiraa

0

Frags

+

–

gambit also failed to qualify to the first event in 2021

optic also "almost won champions"

why are we keeping up the "best team couldnt attend" dumb argument lol, optic and loud were both clear of any emea team there
they started the year as the top 2 teams and ended it that way

#13

Kirya

-2

Frags

+

–

As I said gambit was way closer to winning finals in champions
Best team not attending is not a dumb argument, FPX looked dominant and won the next event

#14

vastiraa

1

Frags

+

–

and then didn't win the one afterwards? lol what is this argument

why are you assuming how they would've performed cause they played well in emea when literally every team there was terrible (g2 qualed lol)

dude assumed they're the best team and ran away with it

gambit being "closer" to winning champions doesn't mean anything, they still got 2nd place and they failed to qualify to an event

#15

Kirya

0

Frags

+

–

It matters cause we're comparing it to optic's 2nd place run
FPX was the best team and it wasn't an assumption, they literally dominated the next event even though they had to play with a substitute and dropped to lower bracket cause of that
FPX looked even better before copenhagen

#16

vastiraa

0

Frags

+

–

idk if you realize this bro but optic came in with a fresh neon/chamber meta and that's how they won the event

everyone watching their games cause they won afterwards gives other teams an advantage

why are u assuming fpx would've been able to beat them the same way they did in copenhagen w/o this info, no team looked better than optic at that point.

if fpx were truly better they would've done something other than losing to xset at champs lol + gambit still did not qualify to a whole event in 2021, optic's 2022 season is better by default whether you wanna admit that they were the best team during reykjavik or not

#17

Kirya

0

Frags

+

–

Fpx beat xset when it mattered
Gambit's win was way more deserved and score in finals was less one sided
Therefore gambit's 2nd place run was better just like OP said
Made it clear for you buddy

continue thread →

#3

CanadianLegend

1

Frags

+

–

Is this me or am I super confused what are you trying to say

#9

Piter

0

Frags

+

–

Which 1st place was better, which 2nd place was better, which 3rd/4th place was better over the 3 Champions events

#5

melon_fan

0

Frags

+

–

OPTC > LOUD > DRX > XSET

#6

Karmine_Org_WhispeR

0

Frags

+

–

Idk what the fuck is this
but top 4 is Fnatic, Gambit, Fpx, and Optic

#18

DeluluGavin

0

Frags

+

–

2022 drx was definitely better than them, or at least better than Kru/TL
paper rex > optic for me idk