Loud > EG > Acend?
Gambit > Optic > Paper Rex?
Loud > TL/Krü > Drx?
Fnatic > Fpx > TL/Krü?
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vastiraa [#7]i dont see why not?
optic's 2022 > gambit's 2021 easily
Optic only won 1 trophy when the best team couldnt attend
Gambit won 1 trophy and almost won champions and then disbanded only cause of the war
Gambit clears
CanadianLegend [#3]Is this me or am I super confused what are you trying to say
Which 1st place was better, which 2nd place was better, which 3rd/4th place was better over the 3 Champions events
Kirya [#8]Optic only won 1 trophy when the best team couldnt attend
Gambit won 1 trophy and almost won champions and then disbanded only cause of the war
Gambit clears
Optic also almost won champs?
Kirya [#8]Optic only won 1 trophy when the best team couldnt attend
Gambit won 1 trophy and almost won champions and then disbanded only cause of the war
Gambit clears
gambit also failed to qualify to the first event in 2021
optic also "almost won champions"
why are we keeping up the "best team couldnt attend" dumb argument lol, optic and loud were both clear of any emea team there
they started the year as the top 2 teams and ended it that way
vastiraa [#12]gambit also failed to qualify to the first event in 2021
optic also "almost won champions"
why are we keeping up the "best team couldnt attend" dumb argument lol, optic and loud were both clear of any emea team there
they started the year as the top 2 teams and ended it that way
As I said gambit was way closer to winning finals in champions
Best team not attending is not a dumb argument, FPX looked dominant and won the next event
Kirya [#13]As I said gambit was way closer to winning finals in champions
Best team not attending is not a dumb argument, FPX looked dominant and won the next event
and then didn't win the one afterwards? lol what is this argument
why are you assuming how they would've performed cause they played well in emea when literally every team there was terrible (g2 qualed lol)
dude assumed they're the best team and ran away with it
gambit being "closer" to winning champions doesn't mean anything, they still got 2nd place and they failed to qualify to an event
vastiraa [#14]and then didn't win the one afterwards? lol what is this argument
why are you assuming how they would've performed cause they played well in emea when literally every team there was terrible (g2 qualed lol)
dude assumed they're the best team and ran away with it
gambit being "closer" to winning champions doesn't mean anything, they still got 2nd place and they failed to qualify to an event
It matters cause we're comparing it to optic's 2nd place run
FPX was the best team and it wasn't an assumption, they literally dominated the next event even though they had to play with a substitute and dropped to lower bracket cause of that
FPX looked even better before copenhagen
Kirya [#15]It matters cause we're comparing it to optic's 2nd place run
FPX was the best team and it wasn't an assumption, they literally dominated the next event even though they had to play with a substitute and dropped to lower bracket cause of that
FPX looked even better before copenhagen
idk if you realize this bro but optic came in with a fresh neon/chamber meta and that's how they won the event
everyone watching their games cause they won afterwards gives other teams an advantage
why are u assuming fpx would've been able to beat them the same way they did in copenhagen w/o this info, no team looked better than optic at that point.
if fpx were truly better they would've done something other than losing to xset at champs lol + gambit still did not qualify to a whole event in 2021, optic's 2022 season is better by default whether you wanna admit that they were the best team during reykjavik or not
vastiraa [#16]idk if you realize this bro but optic came in with a fresh neon/chamber meta and that's how they won the event
everyone watching their games cause they won afterwards gives other teams an advantage
why are u assuming fpx would've been able to beat them the same way they did in copenhagen w/o this info, no team looked better than optic at that point.
if fpx were truly better they would've done something other than losing to xset at champs lol + gambit still did not qualify to a whole event in 2021, optic's 2022 season is better by default whether you wanna admit that they were the best team during reykjavik or not
Fpx beat xset when it mattered
Gambit's win was way more deserved and score in finals was less one sided
Therefore gambit's 2nd place run was better just like OP said
Made it clear for you buddy
Kirya [#17]Fpx beat xset when it mattered
Gambit's win was way more deserved and score in finals was less one sided
Therefore gambit's 2nd place run was better just like OP said
Made it clear for you buddy
you literally just stated a bunch of opinions and said nothing of value lol
"gambit's win was way more deserved", for what reason lol? no lower bracket in the tourney, might've actually been the easiest tournament to win since no one can rematch you after learning about how you play
"gambit's 2nd place run was better" they nearly lost to fucking KRU esports and team vikings bro
your whole argument is "i like gambit better so they're better!" laughable
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