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#1
Aladeen

If Sentinels win berlin who gets the extra spot?
Like they have already qualified for champions and Berlin winner gets a champions spot, so if SEN wins Berlin, who gets the spot?

#2
TheArcticArcher
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next person in the points thing

#4
Aladeen
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But every region has a separate points system , so which region NA, EMEA, SEA, etc?

#6
TheArcticArcher
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na

#25
Pristyna
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circuit points system is the same for all regions, and subregions in case of Masters 1. If SEN wins Berlin they qualify via the Masters 3 winners slot and the NA circuit points they are currently qualified in will be open to another NA team that's eligible for that spot.

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Shail
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I like to think the runner up gets it.

#8
Olofboost
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Bro?
Let's say that EU team comes as runner-up, while SEN take it all.
EMEA would have 4 slots at Champions (runner-up, 2 circuit, 1 last chance), while NA only 3 (SEN from circuit, 1 more circuit, 1 last chance).

But that's completely wrong cuz why should NA get less slots at Champs, if the best team in the world SEN (which won Berlin) is from NA?
Think properly before you type dumb shit like this.

#10
Shail
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Bro Sorry, you didnt have to insult me like that..

#13
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Bro this site has baiters don't take anything personally lol.

#15
Olofboost
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If you consider my last sentence an "insult"... Huh.

#11
Mrityunjay
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The best team is getting the slot but if other NA teams cant compete with EMEA then why shld they get a slot

#5
Asphyxia
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Sentinels get the free spot. And the other two best NA teams would qualify for champions. I think. or is it 3.

#12
PrTsty
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u are right

#30
Pristyna
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2 in the circuit points slots, 3rd in the last chance spots so yes, 3 teams. What's different for Last chance slot is that 2 oceania teams are also eligible for the slot, but that's less likely to happen, but who knows... there's not much info on oce circuit points standings.

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ranker11
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if SEN win berlin then NA gets next team with highest circuit points qualify along with SEN so 2 NA spots
if SEN doesn't win and any other NA team wins then NA gets 2 slots + SEN so 3 NA spots
NA gets less slots if SEN wins

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I'm pretty sure it just goes to runner ups in NA because otherwise it wouldn't make sense. Because there is a dedicated spot to the winner of masters 3 so one of the 2 NA spots wouldn't just randomly disappear. If that actually is the case. I'd be surprised.

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ranker11
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I'm not sure couldn't find any rules for exception. SEN won 2 masters that's why they qualify through points even if they don't play anymore. masters 3 has a direct ticket to vct however so these two seems different

#14
PrTsty
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The team that wins gets their region an extra spot

#17
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Technically Sentinels aren't officially qualified, it is just impossible for them to not qualify. If they won Berlin they would get the Berlin spot then the two next best NA Teams with points would get the points slots and the NA LCQ team gets that slot. So in total NA would get 4 slots.

#18
Aladeen
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SEN is officially qualified men
Both Reykjavik and Berlin winner get a slot

Like in CS If You win IEM cologne you're automatically qualified for IEM Sydney or NY or some shit

#19
ranker11
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It's not official that Reykjavik winner gets guaranteed slot. It only gives 400 points https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Stage_2/Masters.
SEN gets it because they already had high points (won both masters)
Winner of Berlin gets guaranteed slot because its listed https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Stage_3/Masters
(Actually SEN can lose points like heretics if they drop 3 players which is not happening)

#21
Aladeen
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Oh, my bad then, thanks :v

#27
Pristyna
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No, Reykjavik winners didn't get a slot... you're wrong. Slots for Champions are as it follows:

  • 1 slot Masters Berlin
  • 2 slots NA Circuit points
  • 1 slot KR Circuit points
  • 2 slots EMEA Circuit points
  • 2 slots BR Circuit points
  • 1 slot LATAM Circuit points
  • 1 slot JP Circuit points
  • 2 slots SEA Circuit points
  • 1 slot NA last chance (includes 2 oce slots)
  • 1 slot EMEA last chance (includes 1 strike arabia slot)
  • 1 slot SA last chance (LATAM + BR)
  • 1 slot Asia last chance (KR+JP+SEA etc)

Sentinels are currently qualified for Champions in one of the two slots for NA Circuit points because in no other scenario they can be dropped out of the rankings because there's not enough points any other team can get to drop them from NA Circuit points ranking. They win Berlin, they will qualify in the Berlin winners slot and the NA circuit points slot will be open to another NA team.

#32
Nbs
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^ This

#20
kocunar
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If sen wins, na gets 4 spots, sen + 2 next on points + 1 from lcq
If sen (or any other na team) doesnt win, na gets 3 spots, sen + 1 next on points + 1 from lcq

#23
PotatoCh1ps
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If sen wins or any other NA team, NA gets 5 slots if not NA teams will have 4

#24
Pristyna
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4 and 3.... one slot berlin winners, 2 slots circuit points... 1 last chance... if na berlin winner, 4 na team, if not, 3 na teams...

#22
PotatoCh1ps
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If sen wins in Berlin than the top 3 NA teams according to circuit points excluding sen would play at champs. It goes for all regions i guess

#26
FIreFistOM
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bro NA has 2 slots by circuit points , 1 from LCQ. So its not top 3, its top 2 in circuit points and winner of LCQ + Sentinels(if they win berlin)

#28
Pristyna
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Well, he's technically right because top 3 na team excluding sen would be the 2 next circuit points teams and the 3rd would be the last chance team, so basically it's top 3 circuit points excluding sen. he's wrong about the it goes for all regions though because some regions got only 1 circuit points slot. EDIT: Assuming the Oce teams won't have enough points to take the slot.
You can tell him he's wrong on his other comment though where he got an extra team slot from god knows where.

#29
FIreFistOM
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3rd best team according to circuit points(excluding sen) is not equal to winner of lcq.. winner can be anyone 10 lcq teams ...so technically he is wrong.... also he got extra seat in his earlier comment becase he thought na had 3 seats by circuit points and 1 lcq seat

#31
Pristyna
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well yes, but we don't really have much info on oce points standings, so it's less likely to happen, especially without a masters 2 representative, nor a masters 3, but well, still two slots for the laq.

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