An objective take on GC, and why yall should chill

#34

B1itz

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"Our calculations suggest that the allowable increase in force on the starting block 100 ms after the gun fires should be 19.4 Kgf for women if the male force threshold remains unchanged at 25 Kgf. For the current starting block force threshold of 25 Kgf, we calculate that female sprinters will physiologically require a 7% longer time to reach the same value as men. This motor difference explains over half of the 11% sex difference in the lower bounds of the 99.9% confidence intervals we found. As a side note, from Newton's second law, since female sprinters have 25% less body mass than male sprinters [11] and 22% less propulsive force in the same time as men (see Text S1), women might accomplish 4% greater acceleration than men."

idk what you are talking about they say this twice, it doesnt matter where they did the test its still the same thing

#37

Zerphyr1

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dude now your bringing up an irrelevant quote which has nothing to do with reaction time but to do with acceleration? r u baiting or just stupid?

#41

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oops sorry I somehow copied the wrong thing
"Our results suggest that an athlete who manages to react by reaching the threshold force on the starting blocks between the 100 ms criterion used at the Beijing Olympics and the lower limit of the present 99.9% confidence interval must have anticipated the gun and thereby gains an unfair advantage over other competitors in that race; this is especially true for the women in that their ‘window of opportunity’, 21 ms (calculated as 121 ms–100 ms), is twice as long as that of the men. In order to provide equal opportunity within sex, the use of sex-specific start criteria appears warranted. In our search of the literature and the internet, we could find no suggestion that sex-specific force thresholds are currently being used in athletic sprint competitions."

This again says that sex-specific start criteria is warranted

#44

Zerphyr1

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I'm not sure what you mean by "again" but this still doesn't change the fact that males have a faster reaction time than females and the false starts males had were not counted.

#47

B1itz

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what are you talking about. In the abstract the sentence I copied it literally said the same thing. It said women would have the same reaction time if they were given a fair opportunity. Are you even reading it?

#50

Zerphyr1

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they didn't say fair opportunity and it was an equal opportunity. can we try and stay focused on what the whole point of this is. the results show that at the top level males still have a faster reaction time than females even though both have undergone similar training to do with reaction time I imagine.

#51

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again, what are you talking about? YOU linked this article, im quoting something from this article that explains why the men have a higher reaction time at the top level and explains its not actually realistic and women would have the same reaction time if it wasnt for false starts

#54

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they literally say that males have a faster RT for auditory as well as visual compared to females as this si due to the motor responses which is a biological reason. if you read the whole thing you would notice this or you decided to avoid this.

#56

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I did read that but didnt consider it relevant because it doesnt make enough of a difference to actually matter in anything, like the study says multiple times if false starts werent a thing then the reaction time difference would be so minimal it wouldnt matter

#57

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bc the females false starts were so low compared to the males. I have just given up on you, you win. It's become clear to me your just baiting now.

continue thread →

#53

Zerphyr1

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this is also what they said. " It is documented in the literature that the muscle contraction time is the same for males and females[18] and motor responses in males are comparatively stronger than females,[19] this explains why males have faster simple RTs for both auditory as well as visual stimuli."

they literally say that males have a faster RT for auditory as well as visual compared to females as this si due to the motor responses which is a biological reason.