Why EU are doing so bad

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NA CS players all ran to val when they werent nearly as washed as the players who ran from EU CS

edit: not bait but everyone took it as bait for some reason. Why are people mad that better players switched to val in NA than in EU? You cant really argue with this

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Already starting with excuses... lmfao... I thought NA was all T2 CS players....

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and na is also the only region where actual tier 1cs players left to play valorant,eu is 90% tier 10020429 cs pros

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Excuses excuses blah blah blah

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where did i say thats and excuse,NA valorant is clearly better,i just said they had most of the talented players from cs,ow etc

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the 2 NA t1 CS pros are on 100T they're not in iceland

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Dude he is NA after all dont expect much from him 😂

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Now that’s just cringe

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Willll

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I dont understand how this is an excuse hes saying NA players are much better than EU players. Pretty sure the only promising EU player to switch from cs was jamppi and now hes unbanned he probs gonna switch back

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stfu with the excuses holy LMAO just accept the fact that NA >> EU rn. actually delusional

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mauge67

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stfu who tf said that's an excuse idgaf if EU is better than NA or vice versa :DD Im just saying most of NA teams have players with more experience and talent from other games

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dignityx3

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what? you're literally trying to downplay the fact that NA is better because of cs players leaving to play valorant lmfao just accept the fact NA is better. stfu clown

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mauge67

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yes bcs thats literally the reason NA scene is better,all the upcoming players who just gave up on NA cs went to valo,or can you name 10 eu players you actually knew from other games already, but its funny to see players like shazam are absolutely owning in this game :DD

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dignityx3

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no, its not. its because NA is just tactically better at valorant which is a fresh new game. you are delusional.

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mauge67

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no you dont understand the simple fact valorant is more popular in NA witch means alot more talented or experienced players want to play it,why is it so hard to understand im not saying NA is worse im saying they obviously had an advantage in players their able to sign,and it obviously shows in decision making,igling etc,m,ost of the valorant players in general would get absolutely shit on on the same level in cs

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dignityx3

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its more popular in EU wtf LMFAO. EMEA valorant literally has MORE plaayers in valornat than NA, you are delusional just stfu

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mauge67

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no bro your actually stupid emea area is turkey russia and eu,and they stil have zero actual good players switching from games like cs

continue thread →

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big_chungus69

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schizo post

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sure there are better rn and i think thats fucking awesome. But it's really early to tell. Specially in that sentinels game, where the games were pretty close..

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Willll

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why are you so defensive. Saying that cs dying in NA doesnt make the success of the NA val scene any less legitimate. Take your wins and leave im just tryna explain why its happening

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Willll

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i am so confused why people think its an excuse ahahaha. Is it not true that players in NA who switched to VAL were of a much higher level its just NA CS etc was dying whereas in EU it wasnt, thus there is a bigger pull for even top tier NA players whereas that doesnt exist in EU. Its not like youve got dupreeh leaving for valorant because no org wants to sign a cs team but if dupreeh was an NA player he might well do that

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mauge67

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exactly idk why its such a hard fact to swallow for these NA fans

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Gurggu

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gz bro u have the 2 better teams in this tournament. But the reality is that EU have 10 teams that can take a shit on SEN any given day

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dignityx3

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???? are you seriously this fucking delusional? LMFAOO cope harder, actual braindead EU fan. Literal best team in EMEA got owned by NA 2nd seed and Fnatic about to lose to sen. EU is trash for now

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Gurggu

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:DDDDDDDD ok bro u will see

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Mehkek

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not looking good for you bro sen is insane

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spl00sh

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where are the tier 1 cs players in this tournament? The ones that left for valorant didnt even qualify lmao

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mauge67

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its funny i get like 5 NA fans typing balls sweaty how i make excuses :DDD I literally never said EU is better than NA im just saying NA has more players who got alot more experience from other games and players like tenZ switching so no shit their better

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When TenZ literally switched to Val because he couldn’t perform on LAN, my guy just admit you were wrong

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mauge67

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wtf is your point i literally said "players who got alot more experience from other games and players like tenZ" i mean that actual good cs players like tenz switched,you dont see players like ropz from eu just suddenly switching to valorant,and what should i admit im wrong at??all i see is "ExCuSes" but all the arguments are this level :DD

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Excuse it's all i can see here

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Willll

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I mean Jamppi is the only non washed player but hell probably and up going back to CS now hes not banned. Crazy to think if covid never happened most of these players would still be playing CS talk about a butterfly effect

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he already said on stream he's sticking to valorant lol

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mauge67

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he also said in an interwiew its like 75% sure he will go back to cs lol

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p1lot

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because they think they're the best, now they're drinking this reality tea

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BIGTROLL

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REALITY TEA TASTING SWEET RIGHT NOW

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REALI-TEA

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gorilao_do_narga

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eu bad region got cocky, watch sharks beat kru and liquid gaabx gonna slap dash

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spl00sh

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such a bad excuse. There is no shortage of European talent. NA is just better

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Willll

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simple fact is you have good players leaving their respective games in NA whereas they arent leaving in EU. Im not trying to say that NA success is lucky its just a fact

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spl00sh

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But the top NA talent that left for CS didn't even qualify for this tournament lmao. So that doesn't mean anything. If you're going to call sick, Shaz, and tenz top NA talent then you're just delusional. They had failed careers in cs and went to valorant. They weren't even considered good in CS.

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Gomes255

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if c9 had more time together as a team they would've qualified

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spl00sh

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And who's the top NA talent on that team? Floppy? Dawg he had a 1 month long run in NA and they still weren't even considered top NA talent

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dignityx3

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just shut up with the excuses delusional EU fanboys LMFAOOO. NA >> EU as of now.

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fuming

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Willll

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Was always gonna happen when you have t1/2 na teams losing players to val but EU teams are able to keep their players in their respective game

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Aster1x

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Absolutely fucking delusional. EU got out-aimed, out-brained, and aren't nearly as good as they thought they were.

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NA VALORANT IS STACKED EU VALORANT ISN'T SO SHUT UP

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Aster1x

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Ah yes best argument "Me angry stop talking wahhhh"

Cry harder

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Dwex1

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u repping eu so thanks i guess... lol stop talking u b1tch

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Aster1x

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Guild fans omegalul

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evnsu

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HAHAHAHAHAHA Aster1x here is just saying the facts bro what do you mean "NA Valorant is stacked and EU Valorant Isn't?" the only reason why EU lost here is because they got out-aimed and out-brained no other reason.. and we got the V1-Liquid and Sen-FNC results to prove it so get the fuck outta here

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evnsu

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or are you trying to say " iF eU VaLoRaNT is StAckEd aS wElL, NA wiLl GeT SHiT oN!" HAHAHAHAA absolutely fuckin delusional just accept that NA is better than EU at the moment

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Well said

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Willll

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Why do you think im trying to defend EU valorant lmao? This is the reason you will see NA consistently dominate val for the near future until/if valorant becomes popular in EU

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EU Valorant already has more players, I think it's only a matter of time until they surpass NA.

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FREEU KEKW

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Stop making excuses. They lost! They didn't play awful. They just lost! They aren't bad at all. Liquid is insane, just got outplayed by V1, the better team today.

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Willll

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why do people think im making excuses?. I couldnt give a shit if EU play well in valorant. NA CS was dying whilst they still had very good players but that wasnt happening in EU. So you have very good players in NA leaving for Valorant whereas you have not so good players leaving for val in EU. Its not an excuse its an explanation

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FireII

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cs and valorant are different games bro, they dont have the same playerbase just accept that na valorant is better

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Willll

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?? most of the good na players are from cs. Until a team can win a tournament without an ex cs player then thats fair but it wont happen for a few years

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Aster1x

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Zombs is an ex-apex/overwatch player. Sentinels has won several tournaments.

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Willll

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yh sure sen would be just as good with sinatraa instead of tenz... lmao

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Bro there's no excuses man, eu are good but NA are just better. I really though eu were gonna win it all too

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Dwex1

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Why you have STARNAMES we have noboddy we have scream and maybe jamppi and the rest nobodies

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Willll

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what im trying to say is NA success is no surprise in retrospect given that good NA teams are losing players to val but good EU teams are keeping their players

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YALL ARE PREDICTABLE JUST GET THAT THRU UR THICK EU SKULLS

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PigeX

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Whoever says EU better than NA is objectively wrong and whoever says EU is trash is also objectively wrong. Suck my D and call me god.

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Willll

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Agreed, clearly NA is better I am trying to find a reason why. Its not likely that it will stay the same and NA val may slow down since esports struggles over there anyway because people have to get a real job since theres next to no social welfare

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EU can you take an L once and just accept it. We NA fans take L’s all the time, you get one and it’s all excuses. Just accept you got beat.

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teemu

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Learn how to be humble. You are making us all look bad.

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Shanty

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I would assume by saying we take L’s all the time would come across as humble... like I agree to be humble, but it’s fun to trash talk a bit.

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Willll

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this thread is so strange lmao people are reading what they want to read and not realising im not trying to say NA val is bad

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Bro, I mean EU guys aren't so humble with how they view NA Valorant before this event starts even their pro players and analysts thinks EU is way better than NA. they're even making excuses when EU loses and trying to rephrase it by saying they're looking for a reason why NA is better. I say there are no need for reasons here just accept that NA >> EU at the moment and that NA's 2nd seed is better than EU's first seed. No need for reasons just accept that they got shit on and that they are delusional about EU dominating all regions. I'm not even insulting them just stating the facts that they are delusional before this event starts and that the sad truth is NA >> EU

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or how bout this for the reason why NA is better than EU. NA fraggers are better at fragging than EU fraggers, NA tactics and strategies at taking sites and holding sites are better than EU. I mean if those EU guys get offended by this when this is just the facts and i'm just stating it straightforwardly, then their seemingly "neutral" looking for reasons why NA is better right now is all bullshit. they just cant accept that NA Players and strategies are better than EU Players and strategies and they are looking for excuses to avoid this direct comparison

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teemu

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2 decades of pent up frustration coming out after winning 2 games

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Willll

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its understandable and you guys must love seeing NA do well

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The difference is Tenz and Shahzam are just absolutely insane. Wasn't sure what we'd see come from them but they proved to be some of the very best here. EU still have a chance through the lower bracket, imo Fnatic moreso than Liquid.

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EU = Easily Upset

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evnsu

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I mean some EU guys here are saying that more Star CS Pros switched to NA Valorant so it is expected that they are better but then why are you so butthurt about it? lol if it was expected for you guys then you shouldn't even have expectations of your EU beating NA. You guys are so delusional about EU being number 1 region before this event starts then all of a sudden NA > EU is expected due to star CS Pros switching? I say those are excuses

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Willll

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Im not even a valorant fan to be honest but i never said EU was expected to win lmao people have come into this thread wanting to be mad arguing against points i never made

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thats crazy cause everywhere you look, people are staying all the NA valorant players are washed up ex-csgo players that never made it far meanwhile EU has been claiming for months they have better talent and better tactical gameplay?????

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Willll

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you say this in a thread where I am saying the complete opposite and you still find a reason to get mad??

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butt hurt much?