Phoenix-Scream/Victor
Raze-Jiing/Derke<<<<<<<<_mwzera
Jett-Derke
Yoru-Forsaken
Neon-rb
Reyna-Jiing
Sage-Suygetsu
Cypher-Nats
Kj-Shyy/Suygetsu
Chamber-Yay
Omen-Mako/Pancada
Astra-Boaster
Brimstone-Marved/Mako
Viper-Less
Harbor-Stax/Tuyz
Breach-Chronicle/Stax
Sova-Leo
Fade-Shao
Skye-Caunzin/Crashies
Kay/o-Zyppan
Gekko-ange1😂
Chronicle gigachad cracked on all the agents
Let me know any changes or additions that can be made
titanwithpp [#2]Yoru - gtnJESUS
Also how can you not have MWZERA on RAZE?
There's a whole lore about how he's the best RazeAnd sugarz3ro on astra
Sug3zero fell off imo. Boaster actually is really good with Astra utility so I put him up there. And u are right I forgot about God mwzera
333triplethreat [#5]surely u put bang somewhere for controller
He ain't better than anyone I mentioned for omen,viper,Astra and brim. Also he hasn't proven himself at all on lan
GreyDaze [#6]He ain't better than anyone I mentioned for omen,viper,Astra and brim. Also he hasn't proven himself at all on lan
kinda confuse why you put nats with cypher
he isnt doing well and according to your logic, you should also put him on viper since you put pancada on omen when he switched to the sentinel role
last series he played kj and viper
333triplethreat [#7]kinda confuse why you put nats with cypher
he isnt doing well and according to your logic, you should also put him on viper since you put pancada on omen when he switched to the sentinel role
last series he played kj and viper
Pancada played Sentinel for one match. It's not like he has been playing it for ages like kinggg on raze. That's why I excluded him on raze but included pancada on controller. Also nats still has been really good on Cypher and was always the best Cypher.
GreyDaze [#4]Sug3zero fell off imo. Boaster actually is really good with Astra utility so I put him up there. And u are right I forgot about God mwzera
Zeta fell off, sugarzero is still very good
333triplethreat [#7]kinda confuse why you put nats with cypher
he isnt doing well and according to your logic, you should also put him on viper since you put pancada on omen when he switched to the sentinel role
last series he played kj and viper
goAts clears any cypher/sentinel player
juho [#12]viper should be mako and less also why is boaster best astra
Boaster is the best player to use Astra utility that's why. If u watch his vods u can see how good he is at utility
Chow1E [#14]breach leo
reyna asuna
viper nats
jett sayf
Leo doesn't play breach now
Jiing asuna clear
Less is better and this is coming from a nats fan
Derke miles clear of any jett itw rn
Gutssz [#15]Viper - nAts
Killjoy - Alfajer
As a nats fan it hurts me to say this but less is clear of nats on viper. Alfajer is definitely 3rd best on kj but I wanted to limit to 2 players at most on each agent
GreyDaze [#22]Nahhh
TenZ’s rating with Reyna is 1.37 with 1270 rounds played
Jinggg’s rating with Reyna is 1.39 but played less than 1000 rounds with her; moreover, jingg played in tier2 for a long time and tier2 apac is way weaker.
titanwithpp [#2]Yoru - gtnJESUS
Also how can you not have MWZERA on RAZE?
There's a whole lore about how he's the best RazeAnd sugarz3ro on astra
all controller agents: MaKo
333triplethreat [#5]surely u put bang somewhere for controller
tbh, bang hasn't been outstanding since LCQ
Vbnmcxz [#23]TenZ’s rating with Reyna is 1.37 with 1270 rounds played
Jinggg’s rating with Reyna is 1.39 but played less than 1000 rounds with her; moreover, jingg played in tier2 for a long time and tier2 apac is way weaker.
Tenz hasn't been good since 2021. Jing will destroy any reyna main itw
GreyDaze [#31]Tenz hasn't been good since 2021. Jing will destroy any reyna main itw
TenZ won a tournament playing Reyna so what exactly did jinggg achieve to be the best Reyna player? and if you’re saying that this was in 2021 you do realize that even Jingg played Reyna more than a year ago
Vbnmcxz [#33]TenZ won a tournament playing Reyna so what exactly did jinggg achieve to be the best Reyna player? and if you’re saying that this was in 2021 you do realize that even Jingg played Reyna more than a year ago
That was 2021 Lil bro. Tenz fell off harder than my grandma down the stairs
GreyDaze [#34]That was 2021 Lil bro. Tenz fell off harder than my grandma down the stairs
Nats fan talking about falling off anyways it seems you didn’t read properly because my answer is there. Nats won champions in 2021 and didn’t do a single thing in 2022 and now losing against team secret and struggling in emea league.
GreyDaze [#31]Tenz hasn't been good since 2021. Jing will destroy any reyna main itw
This is just a stupid narrative. Just because Sentinels fell off doesn't mean Tenz fell off.
Blazieboy [#37]This is just a stupid narrative. Just because Sentinels fell off doesn't mean Tenz fell off.
What makes it worst is that he is a nats fan he should know that more than anyone
Vbnmcxz [#35]Nats fan talking about falling off anyways it seems you didn’t read properly because my answer is there. Nats won champions in 2021 and didn’t do a single thing in 2022 and now losing against team secret and struggling in emea league.
Nats biggest rated player in lcq Lil bro and almost always best player in the lobby. Try harder next time
south_eastindian [#36]i think Aspas much better jet mechanically than derke
How so? Every tournament they both have played together derke has far outperformed aspas
Jeffo [#38]Bro said Astra: Toaster 💀
Sugarz3ro is miles ahead of any other astra player, and toaster is not top 10
Boaster clears in terms of utility usage. If u actually watch the vods u would know. Sugarz3ro isn't as good anymore
GreyDaze [#40]Nats biggest rated player in lcq Lil bro and almost always best player in the lobby. Try harder next time
Get your facts straight it was sayf not nats and even if it was nats did he do anything in 2022? If you’re talking about stats then TenZ was the highest rated player on sentinels
Jett: Aspas (diffed Derke while underperforming)
Killjoy: Less
Cypher: Less
Sova: Cauanzin
Skye: Cauanzin
Viper: Saadhak
Saadhak is by far the best viper on Loud
https://i.imgur.com/4rK9lJi.png
GreyDaze [#20]As a nats fan it hurts me to say this but less is clear of nats on viper. Alfajer is definitely 3rd best on kj but I wanted to limit to 2 players at most on each agent
Less can only be nAts's fan
and Alfajer is definitely a better Killjoy
Vbnmcxz [#43]Get your facts straight it was sayf not nats and even if it was nats did he do anything in 2022? If you’re talking about stats then TenZ was the highest rated player on sentinels
Look at the rnd differential💀. Nats consistently top 10 in every regional tournament throughout 2022 while playing sentinel role. Tenz got diffed by asuna💀. Even then this argument is pointless when literally everyone and their mother knows Jing and even scream clear tenz on reyna
alitmanus [#44]Jett: Aspas (diffed Derke while underperforming)
Killjoy: Less
Cypher: Less
Sova: Cauanzin
Skye: Cauanzin
Viper: SaadhakSaadhak is by far the best viper on Loud
https://i.imgur.com/4rK9lJi.png
Alright grandpa let's get u ur meds
333triplethreat [#5]surely u put bang somewhere for controller
He's really good with all of them but is always just short of the best imo
titanwithpp [#2]Yoru - gtnJESUS
Also how can you not have MWZERA on RAZE?
There's a whole lore about how he's the best RazeAnd sugarz3ro on astra
Nah yoru cned
GreyDaze [#16]He's alright. Not as good as b4 tho
he's igling so ofc his performance went down, still prolly insane on astra tho
GreyDaze [#46]Look at the rnd differential💀. Nats consistently top 10 in every regional tournament throughout 2022 while playing sentinel role. Tenz got diffed by asuna💀. Even then this argument is pointless when literally everyone and their mother knows Jing and even scream clear tenz on reyna
Nats got diffed by avova. “top 10 in every regional tournament” struggling to qualify for international tournaments then. I’m not saying TenZ had a good last year but neither Nats had a good year when he was struggling in lcq.
Vbnmcxz [#52]Nats got diffed by avova. “top 10 in every regional tournament” struggling to qualify for international tournaments then. I’m not saying TenZ had a good last year but neither Nats had a good year when he was struggling in lcq.
Struggling in lcq?? Wtf are u talking about. He was literally the best player in the lcq. A life game from scream stopped them from qualifying. Tenz I agree was the best player on Sen prev year but he did indeed fall off hard. Nats was still in conversation for best player itw even when he didn't make lan once.
alitmanus [#54]your best team couldnt even beat Loud at their worst map (fracture)
Ur best team lost their best map to a team who are known for being mid on it. Hop off a Brazilian dick. I already owned u. Have some shame. Get a life
GreyDaze [#56]Ur best team lost their best map to a team who are known for being mid on it. Hop off a Brazilian dick. I already owned u. Have some shame. Get a life
Hmm? Their best map when they play their original comp
they werent using their comp
they were trying a two controllers comp, botnatic just countered it
how am I hopping brazilian dick when I'm brazilian, fucking braindead
I bet you never even went to europe
GreyDaze [#41]How so? Every tournament they both have played together derke has far outperformed aspas
so you think that derke outperformed aspas in champions?
dejikke [#58]so you think that derke outperformed aspas in champions?
Esse greydaze é o maior cuck deste o forum
o maluco é indiano e quer gozar com a pica dos europeus
cringe p crl
alitmanus [#59]Esse greydaze é o maior cuck deste o forum
o maluco é indiano e quer gozar com a pica dos europeuscringe p crl
o foda é que nem no lockin, onde o derke ganhou, ele "amassou" o aspas
pelo contrário, foi bem close mas o aspas matou ele mais
dejikke [#58]so you think that derke outperformed aspas in champions?
Yes it's literally in the stats. Go and check them. Loud were way better than fnc but derke was way better than aspas
alitmanus [#57]Hmm? Their best map when they play their original comp
they werent using their comp
they were trying a two controllers comp, botnatic just countered ithow am I hopping brazilian dick when I'm brazilian, fucking braindead
I bet you never even went to europe
I dontbl even want to go to Europe. U can be Brazilian and still dick ride them like crazy which is exactly what u are doing. Loud tried something but fnc read them like a book and outplayed them
GreyDaze [#62]I dontbl even want to go to Europe. U can be Brazilian and still dick ride them like crazy which is exactly what u are doing. Loud tried something but fnc read them like a book and outplayed them
Fnc didnt read shit
the last round in icebox, Loud read Fnatic like a book and stacked exactly in the bomb they went to
they just won duels
Jett- Derke
Raze- Jinggg/nukkye
Neon- Victor
Yoru- fOrsaken
Phoenix- ScreaM/Sick
Reyna- No comment
Sova- Leo/Crashies
Fade- Shao
KAYO- Zyppan
Skye- Cloud
Breach- stax
Gekko(early)- Cloud
KJ- Suygetsu
Cypher- nats
Chamber- yay
Sage- Mazino
Astra/Omen- MaKo
Brim- Boaster
Viper- nAts
Harbor(early)- Tuyz
alitmanus [#63]Fnc didnt read shit
the last round in icebox, Loud read Fnatic like a book and stacked exactly in the bomb they went tothey just won duels
Omg it's almost like fnc didnt use all their utility to flush out every single loud player into isolated gunfights and destroyed them.
GreyDaze [#65]Omg it's almost like fnc didnt use all their utility to flush out every single loud player into isolated gunfights and destroyed them.
fnatic so good thats why they lost rounds in advantage and ecos
kekw
alitmanus [#66]fnatic so good thats why they lost rounds in advantage and ecos
kekw
Loud so good they choked 11-3 and became victims of the greatest comeback in valorant history
GreyDaze [#69]Loud so good they choked 11-3 and became victims of the greatest comeback in valorant history
greatest comeback in valo's history was Loud vs Leviatan on icebox, no lucky clutches, just pure coordination
alitmanus [#70]greatest comeback in valo's history was Loud vs Leviatan on icebox, no lucky clutches, just pure coordination
No one remembers that Lil bro. But everyone will remember loud as the team that lost a 11-3 lead in a final map in gf of a tournament. Bit embarrassing really for the so called "best team" of pre franchising. It's almost as if loud didnt barely qualify against nrg based on Lucky clutches and rounds kkkkkk
GreyDaze [#71]No one remembers that Lil bro. But everyone will remember loud as the team that lost a 11-3 lead in a final map in gf of a tournament. Bit embarrassing really for the so called "best team" of pre franchising. It's almost as if loud didnt barely qualify against nrg based on Lucky clutches and rounds kkkkkk
Sorry european's bootlicker but the most watched game of valorant history is Loud vs Optic, not Loud vs fnatic
everyone will remember Loud lifting the trophy, and the fact that India has 1.4 billion people, but not a single tier S player
GreyDaze [#61]Yes it's literally in the stats. Go and check them. Loud were way better than fnc but derke was way better than aspas
i get your point, but you also gotta count the teams they played up against(SINCE THEY DIDN'T FACE EACH OTHER IN CHAMPIONS)
if we check fnatic x loud lockin final, we can see that they were pretty balanced, derke got more kills but aspas killed derke more times.
my point is that none of them have FAR outperformed each other
dejikke [#76]i get your point, but you also gotta count the teams they played up against(SINCE THEY DIDN'T FACE EACH OTHER IN CHAMPIONS)
if we check fnatic x loud lockin final, we can see that they were pretty balanced, derke got more kills but aspas killed derke more times.my point is that none of them have FAR outperformed each other
Aspas was literally only +1 against derke so the h2h isn't as favored towards any player. Also we shouldn't decide who is a better player from the h2h rather than overall performance in the tourney which shows that derke had better stats in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo which is why I said derke is better than aspas
alitmanus [#72]Sorry european's bootlicker but the most watched game of valorant history is Loud vs Optic, not Loud vs fnatic
everyone will remember Loud lifting the trophy, and the fact that India has 1.4 billion people, but not a single tier S player
I literally dgaf about Indian valorant. Again u ate losing the argument badly so u try to attack me personally. It won't work Brazilian dickrider. Also we are comparing lod vs lev with fnc vs loud to compare the greatest comebacks ever. See deflecting from the original point so u don't get exposed as a braindead no lifer. U gotta try harder Lil bro coz u are proving my point that u are basement dweller with each comment u make
ice3 [#64]Jett- Derke
Raze- Jinggg/nukkye
Neon- Victor
Yoru- fOrsaken
Phoenix- ScreaM/Sick
Reyna- No comment
Sova- Leo/Crashies
Fade- Shao
KAYO- Zyppan
Skye- Cloud
Breach- stax
Gekko(early)- Cloud
KJ- Suygetsu
Cypher- nats
Chamber- yay
Sage- Mazino
Astra/Omen- MaKo
Brim- Boaster
Viper- nAts
Harbor(early)- Tuyz
Neon? Rb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
ice3 [#64]Jett- Derke
Raze- Jinggg/nukkye
Neon- Victor
Yoru- fOrsaken
Phoenix- ScreaM/Sick
Reyna- No comment
Sova- Leo/Crashies
Fade- Shao
KAYO- Zyppan
Skye- Cloud
Breach- stax
Gekko(early)- Cloud
KJ- Suygetsu
Cypher- nats
Chamber- yay
Sage- Mazino
Astra/Omen- MaKo
Brim- Boaster
Viper- nAts
Harbor(early)- Tuyz
The fact that cloud has shown the best Gekko performance so far needs to be more acknowledged
GreyDaze [#18]Boaster is the best player to use Astra utility that's why. If u watch his vods u can see how good he is at utility
no way you're saying that when MaKo did this: https://www.youtube.com/live/OC4j306fi3c?feature=share&t=21629
man smoked main, sucked for kay/o nade, got ulted by sova, went immediately into astral and put down the most clutch astral wall while sova is still ulting, breaks omen ult, and kills 3 to hold site
if you watch MaKo's vods he is hands down the best Astra player and best Brim player active rn
GreyDaze [#78]I literally dgaf about Indian valorant. Again u ate losing the argument badly so u try to attack me personally. It won't work Brazilian dickrider. Also we are comparing lod vs lev with fnc vs loud to compare the greatest comebacks ever. See deflecting from the original point so u don't get exposed as a braindead no lifer. U gotta try harder Lil bro coz u are proving my point that u are basement dweller with each comment u make
bcuz indian valorant doesnt exist, lol
that's why you need to lick the boots of europeans
pathetic
GreyDaze [#77]Aspas was literally only +1 against derke so the h2h isn't as favored towards any player. Also we shouldn't decide who is a better player from the h2h rather than overall performance in the tourney which shows that derke had better stats in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo which is why I said derke is better than aspas
*but that's what i said, derke had better stats on these tourneys and surely you can assume that he is better than aspas, but if you go to h2h you see that they are not that far
ayayaay [#84]aspas is more complete
aspas is crazy on flicks and inconsistent with raw aim(flick players are usually like this), derke is aim demon. derke clears aspas on 1v1
dejikke [#87]*but that's what i said, derke had better stats on these tourneys and surely you can assume that he is better than aspas, but if you go to h2h you see that they are not that far
It's just +1 in h2h. Inconclusive to say aspas was better than him. That's why I took overall stats into account
alitmanus [#83]bcuz indian valorant doesnt exist, lol
that's why you need to lick the boots of europeanspathetic
Cry baby
GreyDaze [#89]It's just +1 in h2h. Inconclusive to say aspas was better than him. That's why I took overall stats into account
it's inconclusive to say aspas was better than him, but you can assume that they are close
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