If NaVi wins LOCKIN is Shao the GOAT of Valorant?

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Yessirskiiii

If they win he's probably going to win MVP. He's clearly the best in the world rn and in my opinion has been for a year now. Yeah i get the argument that there is no GOAT since the game is so new, but just for fun ig

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If LOUD wins LOCKIN is aspas the GOAT?

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Yessirskiiii

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No because he's never been the best player in the world

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manca

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they won champs fym

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Fayt

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Aspas won 2x VCTBR without losing a singular series, reached a masters finals and won champions....

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Yessirskiiii

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Ok so tell me when was he the best player in the world? Is he currently better than Shao in ur opinion?

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Fayt

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He is currently the world champion tf you mean by ''when''? he is one of the best players in the world (if not the best) since he won champions.

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Yessirskiiii

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He is definitely one of the best in the world and top 2 duelist with Derke but Shao is just next level

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Fayt

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Shao is not even the most know player in NAVI to be honest with you, i dont remember a singular time about someone calling him the ''best player in the world'' besides you right now.

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Martinao

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Aspas is playing easier agents than Shao though.

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Piter

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So Shao>yay, cNed, Suygetsu, aspas

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Yessirskiiii

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Well yeah? Obviously he's better right now

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Jpliso

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shao never was the best player in the world too

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Mortadelo

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Idk, Less has been consistently looking like the best player in LOUD to me. Idk why people only talks about aspas and not him

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LucasMK

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Pancada was the best player from LOUD in Champions, Aspas in all international events was the most solid player, in Reykjavik finals he has better ACS than yay

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Mortadelo

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He is not in the top 5/10 ACS leaderboard of barely any tournament. He is great but there's no way he is/was the best on the team, others are really cracked too

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LucasMK

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LOUD indeed was a super team but the only player who can match aspas is yay in prime chamber meta, look his stats in key games
Master Reykjavik Finals
Masters Copenhagen Group Stage
Champions Finals

He was the best players in every series

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Mortadelo

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Look at his stats overall in the tournament tho, tournaments are not won just in the finals

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LucasMK

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No tournament had a only duelist in the top ACS, in high level duelist are easily punished in setups and have first contact almost ever

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Mortadelo

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Yeah there is full duelists who have the Top ACS and even if that wasn't the case there's other duelist s with better stats, and not only that, there's players in LOUD itself with better stats. Idk I guess I just like the others better

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LucasMK

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Ok bro, if Aspas destroy Rb, Derke or cNed you will remember this conversation

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juno_VLR

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if navi win it has to be cNed as current goat right? since he won champs and other 4 won just masters.

regardless, he and shao have only been to 3 of 7 LANs each.

a loud player has the best chance of goat if they win.

derke puts himself in the conversation if fnatic finally win.

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LucasMK

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The only two players who can be considered the GOAT is Yay or Aspas if they still playing like last year this year and win a Master or a Champion

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ppmcpoopoo

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bro said aspas 💀

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yungjeezy

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lock in is a shit format that shouldnt put a big weight on peoples legacy. let masters and champs do the talking

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Just_Be

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but if NA had won lock in it would be of weight on NA legacy and it would be a good format copium

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yungjeezy

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No.

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ppmcpoopoo

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its been like almost 3 years the game been out for a while

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widepeepofrosty

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Yea but there hasn’t been a consistently top performing player, each year/international there has been a top player

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Docta

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Definitely not the goat, no one is the goat rn. One good year doesn’t make you GOAT, but if he keeps up this performance for 2-3 more years then sure