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CIS have to be united with EU

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#1
Sims4proplayer

If Riot again make CIS separate region it's scene gonna die. Majority of CIS gamers hate Riot games for making better MOBA game than their beloved DotA. I dont know how many years have to pass untill this stupid "crusade" against league and Riot would be over. Without interest from kids there wont be any fresh blood for esports. Teams will face stagnation and will slowly become tier 3-4 trash.
On the other hand if Riot make CIS teams play in EU it will be great motivation for current teams and for future players who want to become pro. And CIS players are Really talented in FPS games and have huge legacy. No one can deny that. Right now Gambit could maintain top 5 EU spot easily and Forze could be top 10. Other teams have potential too, may be with some tournament experience or just reshuffles.

Why Im not including TR here? Lets be honest Turkey went all in on Valorant. I believe its most popular game in Turkey already. Surpassed LoL and CSGO. TR scene is huge and talented as well. All they need is to hire some EU specialists like analysts and coaches. And in no time TR would be competitive internationally even if they would be separate region.

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i think u should include TR to unite with EU ans CIS, their scene is one big DM with outdated meta. they should play with EU and CIS, but it's rito games and they won't do this :)

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but overall +1

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Sims4proplayer
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Outdated meta and game sense is something that can be fixed on its own with time and hard work. Especially if u have huge player base to make selection. It is exactly whats wrong with CIS being isolated - very tiny player base.

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CIS love fat people (GabeN) because it remind them of their father. Unless GabeN personally come out to ask people to play Valorant, the CIS wont play it. Counter Strike (or any Valve game) will always be a favourite for CIS over the non Valve counterpart

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It actually have nothing to do with Gaben. People hated lol before DotA 2 came out. Its just baby duck syndrome, CS and DotA was popular in CIS beloved internet caffe era(2000-2010) thus players still praise these games and refuses to play something new. CIS population really hates everything new

#13
Obeeey
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The point is CIS deserved a free spot at Worlds for the Albus Nox Luna performance in 2016 and instead of that Riot gave it to Vietnam just because of viewers. Sometimes Riot It's trash.

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Dota fans have reasons to hate league other then it just being another moba. Theyre dumb but they exist basically League dev tried to kill the dota scene a few times, he owned the biggest dota forum ran league ads on it whilst removing all the dota stuff. He had helped devlop Defense of the Aincients so tried to sue valve for Dota copyright. Its relatively well documented if you google it. (worth noting what he did to the forum meant new players couldnt install updates and stuff)

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Sims4proplayer
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most of those who hate league in CIS doesnt really know that stuff. They are just delusional. Some of them still think that DotA has more players, make more money and overall bigger game and eSport.

#28
bigpeensheen
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DotA does have the biggest prize pool in all of esports though, no?

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Sims4proplayer
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yeah cuz valve made kids spend their lunch money on it. And its only one big tournament. Valve dont give a single fuck about DotA pro scene

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cowCoconut
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yeah cuz valve made kids spend their lunch money on it. And its only one big tournament.

Oh yeah great argument right there. Sounds like you're butthurt about TIs prizepool.
Dota majors have great prizepools too.
Viewership really doesn't mean anything when your flagship tournament is about as interesting as watching paint dry. TI has always been way more interesting.

Maybe people aren't delusional, maybe they're just playing the game they enjoy playing instead of blindly playing the game that's popular in USA.

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Noone would like to see a FPS scene without CIS players, since the begging of valorant, i thought CIS will be the Korea of LOL .. Riot can not lose this !

#8
Ibis
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Yea man i really hope so. There are so many talented cis players already in the biggest Eu orgs. Plus it would strengthen EU as whole region

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Sims4proplayer
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Exactly. CIS players would have a chance to become pro and EU players get better competition

#10
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I think CIS teams can play in Eu tournaments just as Europe ones can play on Turkey an CIS if they want to. I think the only restriction is that you can't have circuit points on another region, and obviously the ping. I think the rest is up to them

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Sims4proplayer
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Cis playing on eu severs anyway - no ping problems at all

#11
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Cis will not play valorant because valorant is made by the company that created moba which turned out to be better than dota and the only way to save cis valorant is to merge it with eu. Makes perfect sense.

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TinglyPiano
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actually that make no sense AT ALL. if CIS wont play valorant, why do merging with EU make them play?

#24
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Dude. Of course it doesnt make sense. Thats a short version of what op said. Have you even read the first post?

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Sims4proplayer
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It actually make sense. Small minority of players still want to play valorant and want to become pro. This wouldnt be enough to sustain separate CIS league. But it would be valuable addition to EU. Because CIS have alot of talented players and in general huge FPS legacy. And another fact - CIS players rarely care about domestic leagues and find much more motivation on international scene.

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Ok, I get that and completely agree. It makes sense to merge eu and cis especialy as there are not many relevant cis teams. That would definitely increase motivation, competition level, etc and overall would be possitive to everyone. Riot can easily make cis seperate in future if there are many teams. But why talk conspiracies about cis hating lol and not playing val because of that. That was too far fetched

#40
Sims4proplayer
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Because its exactly what u can read on some Russian forums or news resources. Im not even kiddin

#41
Ibis
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If i was russian, I wouldn’t want to play valorant just because of the voice ban lmao

#42
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Double post

#43
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I wouldnt take forums seriously on that lol trolls, baiters and conspiracies are everywhere. What news resources are you talking about?

#44
Sims4proplayer
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I meant comments under almost every league news. Trolls or not this shit is literally everywhere.

#31
cowCoconut
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sounds like a butthurt riot fanboy lmao

#15
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Agreed, plus keeping them separate will just decrease the quality of competition between the regions. Feel like turkey and CIS are getting cucked by region locking and are having their full potential being limited

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EMEA should work as a region itself. It makes no fucking sense to make EMEA finals with actual relevance while deciding the slots and all the stuff. They played online, TR v EU, TR v CIS and CIS v EU so there is no point about ping and servers. If Riot merged CIS and TR teams into EU qualifiers then nobody would complain if 8 TR teams reached the finals.

And that would be great for TR and CIS aswell, CIS because of the slots and Turkey because they would start to get deep in terms of strats and eventually becaming the beast they are meant to be.

TDLR, qualifing to Masters through EMEA makes the 3 region system completely useless.

#17
TinglyPiano
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I agree, but dont think they will do that. This will just show how weak CIS and TR are, and people will get discouraged and game and esports scene will get less popular in those 2 regions. No one want to tune in every week to watch their region getting spanked.

#18
Sims4proplayer
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Previous bait was better

#20
TinglyPiano
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who are u and why are u replying to all my comments?

#21
array
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Why are people so bitchy here about people replying to the post even if they are a response to someone other. Would you say that as well if new person agreed with you? Thats forum after all, he can respond to whatever he wants and you can ignore or respond like a bitch complaining or just communicate like a normal person with the new guy. Also here this guy created a thread so it makes sense he participates

#22
TinglyPiano
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previous bait was better

#25
array
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I am not gonna make fun of you. Obviously you are a child, your brain is not fully formed and much cant be expected from you.

#27
TinglyPiano
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can't win an argument? Just call the other person a child!
EPIC GAMER MOVE xDD

#32
cowCoconut
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previous bait was better

that was a really good argument there buddy

#30
cowCoconut
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better MOBA game than their beloved DotA

lmao. Russians don't hate riot for making a subpar watered down dota clone.

I dont know how many years have to pass untill this stupid "crusade" against league and Riot would be over

There is no stupid 'crusade' against riot and people play Dota because they like it. Just because they don't play the game you like doesn't mean that they're upset at riot. Dota is just a more engaging and competitive game, not to mention the better esport by a mile.

#33
TinglyPiano
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more engaging and competitive game? And better esports?? KEKW KEKW

Look at the number of views and popularity of the game compared to league. Dota ppl just cant accept league because they spent so much time learning the mechanics that they think anything different is worse, to justify their time spent learning some arbitary mechanics that dont translate to other games/skills

#35
cowCoconut
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Im not arguing with some racist retard who said "CIS love fat people (GabeN) because it remind them of their father."
Get a life.

#38
TinglyPiano
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obvious bait is obvious.

Also kinda sad that you go through hundred of my comments that is irrelevant to this argument to 'get back at me'.

#34
Sims4proplayer
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this is exact type of message u got in every league related topic in CIS. I mean why not just play game u love and let others play what they love to. That wasnt even point of my post. Just slightly overexaggerated background on how things are in CIS gaming community

#36
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I get your point but you assuming people "hate" riot because they choose to play a game they like kinda contradicts what you say.
Regardless, I do hope valorant takes off in CIS.

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