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GIA and Heretics

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#1
Hewcho

Any news on Giants and Heretics?

#2
Styling911
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No + who cars?

#4
Kindler
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Bro answers the question and also says who cars.

#3
charizard_123
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One of them gonna buy mixwell
Giants will rebuild around fitinho and I think they were already doing trials, just with alt accounts though

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Mortadelo
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Nothing on Giants other than keeping Fitinho and benching everyone else, trying to sell russz to Turkish teams

About heretics they are getting rid of everyone but maybe paura, trying to sell Keloqz to French teams. Also Mixwell and keznit, are options, if Maxwell was to sign for anyone it would be Heretics, and if keznit was to come to EMEA it would be Heretics, it's not too likely tho

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Hewcho
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both BBL and FUT doesn't need oper, they both have qw1 and quti. Fut also has muj who's good at oping.

But these are turkish teams so... expected

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Mortadelo
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Russz is a great initiator too tho

#8
kaesra
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both going to be at the bottom of emea league anyways

#9
patuj
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Most likely if the rumors/leaks are true for rest of the team. There really isn't that many proven talents out there anymore. But in a way its good I think. They are almost forced to focus more on signing tier 2 talent, so then new players get experience and get to show what they got. Seeing guy like Fit1nho fighting against the best of EMEA will be nice. In my opinion EMEA already has multiple good teams (on paper) so having some that may work more as talent developing teams will be good.

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Mortadelo
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I mean tbh, fitinho might not be the #1 tier 2 oper but you're right not anymore tier 1 opens available tbh. But in general I feel like there is still a fucking shit tone of tier 1 material to make teams tho, like

Zeek, Boo, Molsi, Twisten, Monster, Mistic (was great at champs), Cloud, nukkye, media, hoody, Avova, jady, link, etc..

Agree, might not be superteam material but definitely people who deserves to be there and more than good enough, can surprise with the right coaches and synergy (Pipson, NBS, Engh, etc)

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patuj
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Oh yeah now looking at that list definitely. Some really good players still not signed. I guess I got carried away by lack of OP players. Especially in my head Boo, Molsi(scrimming with VIT), Monster, Twisten, Cloud, nukkye, hoody deserve a spot. Zeek has shown he is good, but maybe bit inconsistent this year and I don't know how stable he is. Mistic, Avova and L1NK are all kind of same for me where they have shown good stuff but bit inconsistent and have for some time been somewhat weak links on their teams. They could fill in if rest of the team is good tho. And Jady is good, but I don't know is he willing to relocate because I'm pretty sure that was problem when he was on NaVi as well. And Meddo should play in tier 2 IMO. I think his peak is really high, but he always performs like bot until playoffs where he pops off. Also baddyG could be good for pure controller.

Something like Fit1nho(duelist/OP), hoody(flex), Boo(controller/IGL), Monsterr(sentinel), Cloud(initiator/entry flex) could be really good under right coaching staff.

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Yup, I’m kinda hoping Vitality keeps Bonecold as IGL and maybe gets Twisten so Giants gets something like:

Fitinho
Boo
Molsi/Cloud
Hoody
Monster

Pipson coach

And tbh for Heretics Mixwell/ Keznit arenot even that bad options seeing the lack of Chambers maybe a

Mixwell
Keznit
Avova
And someone else idk

#14
patuj
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Seems like Bonecold and Cender will be staying on Vitality based on their scrims/trials. They have been on all of them, and Molsi's alt has been there for multiple games as well. While final 2 has changed bit more.

and yeah true about Heretics as well. If they have money I think getting Mixwell and maybe Keznit would be understandable.

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Mixwell is not necessarily worse than Fitinho, Cender, xms or whoever tf is kcorp’s opper, neither Quitoner or qw1. Team would still be competitive specially with Keznit god

Then Boo is a great option as IGL for Giants imo

#13
cyk
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kile benched

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