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National pride Asian League

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#1
ChubbyChoob

I seen lot of comments from GE fans that they only praise IF roster have Indian players, same with RRQ that Indo fans want Indo roster or Korean fans don't want Gen.G go to mixed roster. Me personally don't give a shit about '''country representatives'' shit, I only want best players compete each others instead of tier 3 roster ''national pride'' team. Whole point of Franchised League is the League of super teams with best players, not mediocre, tier 3 'national rosters

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noobmaster3000
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ok

#18
Vellor
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take the hint, boy.

#20
Nezko_
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you try so hard XD

#21
Vellor
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not the one taking Ls

#3
Mapusaurus
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true

#4
Slashyiguess
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National pride will always be there especially if it’s SEA and SA teams, just have to deal with it 🤷‍♂️ it’s what separates apac and other regions tbh

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TMosura
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What Slashy said. Over time, I have no doubt fans will acclimate and learn that's the reality that they have to face. Still, I feel like people always forgot or completely didn't know that regionalism and national pride is very intertwined in APAC's fanbases. I mean, look at Challengers APAC and their subregions throughout this year. TH, ID, VN, PH, HK/TW, South Asia, OCE, and MY/SG fans bitterly bickering over which region is the best.

Honestly, The only comparison I could see is whenever international competition is involved and within the Americas and the EMEA scene, I feel LATAM, BR, and Turkey share these similarities too.

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ChubbyChoob
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For EMEA, their orgs have lot of international fans and themselves are International orgs so their fanbases just want best rosters as much as possible. For Asia, orgs are representatives of countries and their fanbases also come from these specific countries so its very hard to make a competitive international roster without backlash from fans, If you can build full national roster like DRX which is very strong team so its very good, But apart from them , I don't see any good national roster, even Xerxia fell off badly

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TMosura
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Doesn't matter. While they will want improvement, they still want representation. Doesn't matter. They want that regional pride.

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capital_d_colon
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Its the way the leagues are set up that reinforce it.
The fact each region had its own league helped it to grow full rosters instead of mixes.
Emea was more about pumping results as quick as possible.
Not many orgs are as nationalist as they once were in emea

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misaquartz
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ok thanks for ur opinion

#8
pally
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Thing is we never had big representation in Esports (Arslan has for Pakistan and SA) , So people are obsessed about it. If we had enough like NA EMEA. People wouldn't care about it too much.

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PeterGriffin
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RRQ has difference case. They dont want buy full indo rosters because they dont want to invest more. RRQ wanna save some money and stick with some PH players(tier 2-3 in APAC) instead buy BOOM/ONIC rosters(tier 1 in APAC).
"Whole point of Franchised League is the League of super teams with best players, not mediocre, tier 3 'national rosters"
If they still sticking with current PH rosters, do u think they are building super teams with best players?

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SilentNight
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sorry bro but i think you're disrespecting some of their current players like Nexi and kellyS who actually has a potential than the other members.

#13
PeterGriffin
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yeah i agree kellys and nexi has potential. in my opinion both of them should go to TS and make PH superteam instead playing for Indos org. you know one thing that really pissed me the most is RRQ ceo said they dont want to buyout players.

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dude compare nexi and kellys to lmemore/monyet or flipzjder/tehbotol that huge different. this boom and onic roster id they mixed that would be chmapion roster like loud brazil. its HUGE different

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SilentNight
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Eventually they'll still accept it if they're winning anyways

#14
SnooTangerines
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You will probably never understand the POV of India and other SEA countries.

Nationalism is drilled into the people from day 1. Schools have choirs dedicated to entirely songs based on national pride. You have to sing along to those songs every morning in school since you are a child. It's almost a cult except millions of people are doing it and your country's government is sponsoring it.

Hardly anyone dares to criticize their own country in public. If they do, they are usually seen in a negative light in their countries.

TLDR: People are very nationalistic here. Something that people from EU or NA could possibly not even begin to understand.

Also no, people do not accept if they are winning anyways. Entity which owns a Dota 2 team which qualified for Dota's The International. I bet hardly anyone gives a fuck even if the org is Indian cause it has 0 Indian players. however, when an Indian team won a bronze medal in another Dota 2 event, the news almost spread to every living soul that has touched video games even if they have never even heard about Dota 2.

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yaiima0
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Nationalism is one hell of a drug

#15
Skuul13
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dude
LOUD IGL's is from argentina
brasil and argentina have a loooooong rivalry
but the dude is just insane and we all love him
ppl should be more focused on good teams than nationality

#16
UnreignedX
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"ppl should be more focused on good teams than nationality"
100% agreed.

#19
yamigamidark
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the problem is in RRQ r team 2 player.and maybe kellys or nexi are 1.5 tier player. if u compare to player boom in champion that huge different. indo scenario like brazil but they need mix all onic and boom player make superteam like brazil

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JiangLi
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EU countries and APAC countries so different can't compare them

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