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riot and spain

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#1
pokez

does Riot love spain or why are 3 orgs from Spain in the League

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Azureus
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Everything is about money.

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hrwoahrwoahro
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Why would they have EMEA League in Berlin and not Barcelona? They dont even have a DACH team.. its so stupid

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pokez
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I think they had to put atleast 1 german team into the league because Valorant is very popular in Germany
(BIG or Fokus)

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ChubbyChoob
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Champions Istanbul German viewership peaked at 23k or sth , higher than French

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clutchzero
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because Barcelona is fine but Berlin is one of the most W cities in the world.

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koi and heretics are owned by big name dudes, also the two of them with giants have huge fanbases.

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Adri98
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Probably. In LEC there Will be 3 Spanish teams (without include G2)

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Mortadelo
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Which team do you have doubts about and think another one would do better, like tell me which swap would you make and I'll try to explain why Riot thought that was worse than what they did, that way you can judge if you actually don't like it or if it convinces you

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pokez
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Fut out and BIG or Fokus in

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Mortadelo
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That actually is the only change I would personally make and ik I'm biased and people will tell me why not Giants or Heretics instead so you make 2 2 and 2 spots. But the strong thing about these teams is that they get the Spanish fanbase yes, but also EMEA with time because they are not gonna actually sign Spanish players or not more than 1 each, meanwhile on the other hand Fut is gonna make a full Turkish roster, so yes, -FUT +BIG does make sense

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palathan361
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Considering that the EMEA League will be held in Berlin, there should have been at least one german org.

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Mortadelo
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Yes, I agree, really wanted BIG in, who would you swap them for personally

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palathan361
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In my opinion:

+Big or Fokus
-Giants or FUT

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Okay so I do agree BIG has more right to be in than both Giants and Futbolist. But my argument why is better to swap Fut instead of Giants is that: Giants does have Spanish fanbase yes, but also will have EMEA fanbase with time because they are not gonna actually sign Spanish players or not more than 1 most likely, meanwhile on the other hand Fut is gonna make a full Turkish roster, so one is gonna feel more like a place where players that deserve to be in will go more than like a Spanish spot, wether it's not the case with FUT.

Again, Ik I'm biased just explaining what my thought process is and asking for feedback

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Glycoroldas
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I get Heretics and Giants due to previous stints in pre franchise era, but KOI - what's the deal with them?

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Mkin11
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IBAI

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pokez
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Fanbase and Piqué has a lot of money

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Mortadelo
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Actually the opposite, if only 1 org had to make it that would actually be KOI. All I'm gonna tell you is KOI owner tweeted without too much time of notice that he had an announcement and he had a 100k people watch the franchising revel. So yes, absolutely massive, two more facts about them, they are cowned by Pique (Barcelona player) and Ibai (Two years in a row awarded best streamer in the world) holds twitch viewer record with 3.1 million viewers

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Cayub
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DACH done dirty

#14
azraelmdfk
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yeah like, Riot went full "Yes i give you the league hometown, no you will not have a single team in it"

#21
Eli28
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Easy explanation:
Years ago the most succesfull teams (and also well-known) in EU could be counted with the fingers of one hand, nowadays that's not the case.
Right now we have new teams with good money (probably less than big orgs but it's not main thing) and one important thing is that they also have good fanbases, which are growing more and more everyday. With that in mind imo, Riot thinks they can have a sustainable league. Now what teams are those? Two perfect examples are already in the VCT EMEA, KOI and Karmine Corp.

It is true that Giants is probably the least expected selected team, fighting with Big or other orgs for the spot. Imo I would preferred to have Big instead of Giants and the league in Barcelona instead of Berlin.

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I can understand that you think 3 Spanish orgs are too much. But sincerely, all of them have a big structure and a Big fan base. For me is more surprising that It Will be 2 TR than 3 SP teams. The Spanish teams Will make a European team. I cannot say the same with the Turkish teams that they will make a Turkish full roster.

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