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Americas Franchise

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#1
Mjtchell

These are the ORGS I want to see franchised in the Americas League:

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

NA:

100T
C9
OPTIC
TSM
EG
FaZe

LATAM:

Leviatán
KRU

BR:

LOUD
Furia

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W but Xset > TSM just because fuck tsm

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eg is dead as fuck lmao

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Subreezy
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sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored

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spookmeister [#2]

W but Xset > TSM just because fuck tsm

XSet just doesn't have a lot of pull I think EG could buy them out

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Subreezy [#4]

sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored

out of this list i dont think EG or faze make it, instead sen and NRG/TGRD will

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100T and EG OMEGALUL

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kshah [#6]

out of this list i dont think EG or faze make it, instead sen and NRG/TGRD will

EG has a league roster though, there's a strong chance they make it

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Subreezy [#4]

sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

Sentinels is not a big org

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Subreezy [#8]

EG has a league roster though, there's a strong chance they make it

so does T1 and they arent making it for sure

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Perma
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W NO SEN

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Mjtchell [#5]

XSet just doesn't have a lot of pull I think EG could buy them out

i just dont like tsm

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spookmeister [#9]

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

Sentinels is not a big org

they arent but they are the biggest brand in valorant so riot would have to be smoking to not let them in franchising

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spookmeister [#12]

i just dont like tsm

I hate xset

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Mjtchell
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Subreezy [#4]

sentinels is kind of a guarantee, they have too much notoriety and star power to be ignored

I get that, but honestly coming from CS I literally didn't hear about this org until Valorant

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there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont

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spookmeister [#9]

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

Sentinels is not a big org

i don't know how much that matters (in this special case). think about how many fans they've brought to VCT and Valorant and how much name recognition they have as well

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aTastyCook1e [#7]

100T and EG OMEGALUL

?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc

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spookmeister [#9]

DISCLAIMER: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROSTERS BUT SIMPLY THE ORGS

Sentinels is not a big org

They were huge in Halo, Apex, and Fortnite no?

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spookmeister [#18]

?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc

100T C9 and EG all feel like the Obvious picks

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charizard_123 [#16]

there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont

Logic:
leviatan is a latam org and sen is an NA org neither one would take the others spot

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Brazil could be:

Loud
Furia
Fluxo/MiBR

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Mjtchell
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charizard_123 [#16]

there's no logical view where leviatan make it but sentinels dont

Leviatan is in the League circuit Sentinels has no connection to riot prior to valorant

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Mca [#22]

Brazil could be:

Loud
Furia
Fluxo/MiBR

I could see mibr as well, as long as its not NIP imo

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Mjtchell [#19]

They were huge in Halo, Apex, and Fortnite no?

Fortnite only cuz they got lucky with one signing and the dude won the event
Apex kekw
Halo they basically just stole Optics roster if i remember right

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Mjtchell [#15]

I get that, but honestly coming from CS I literally didn't hear about this org until Valorant

yeah, but isn't that kind of the point? Sentinels and Valorant go together in terms of name recognition

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spookmeister [#12]

i just dont like tsm

Need someone to be the villain

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Mca [#22]

Brazil could be:

Loud
Furia
Fluxo/MiBR

Brazil will only get 2 spots.

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spookmeister [#21]

Logic:
leviatan is a latam org and sen is an NA org neither one would take the others spot

you didn't understand what I said then, Leviatan are a new org, if they make it then it's purely because of the fanbase they've built this year thanks to their roster. If the deciding factor for Riot is fanbase, then sentinels is a no brainer for NA teams

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Mjtchell [#24]

I could see mibr as well, as long as its not NIP imo

I think most likely the nip should go on account of the investment

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Subreezy [#26]

yeah, but isn't that kind of the point? Sentinels and Valorant go together in terms of name recognition

Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)

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spookmeister [#18]

?????
how is 100T an omegalul
They went to champs with a 6 month old roster, have insane funding (tons of content creators, sponsorships, merch sales, collabs....), have super big popularity, etc

Shroud Tarik and Tenz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100T and EG

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Loopzin [#30]

I think most likely the nip should go on account of the investment

I think they shouldn't be involved in BR simply because they relocated just to pay the players less than they would an EMEA roster

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Mjtchell [#31]

Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)

recently FaZe has been kinda sus and i dont think riot wants them in the league

my picks for NA are:

100T
TSM
SEN
C9
OPTC
NRG/TGRD

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aTastyCook1e [#28]

Brazil will only get 2 spots.

How do you know that ? many news are saying that it will be 3 organization pro br 2 latam

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Mjtchell [#31]

Yea, but honestly I think leaving out any of the other orgs listed is a huge loss for Riot
TSM would be my first candidate to go
FaZe, and Optic have long lines of history in shooters
C9, 100T, and EG all have League rosters
TSM has a League roster and is the Biggest org in the world (in terms of net worth)

maybe yeah, but i'd get rid of FaZe cause of all the crypto shit and controversy

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Subreezy [#36]

maybe yeah, but i'd get rid of FaZe cause of all the crypto shit and controversy

Fair

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kshah [#34]

recently FaZe has been kinda sus and i dont think riot wants them in the league

my picks for NA are:

100T
TSM
SEN
C9
OPTC
NRG/TGRD

If FaZe is out then I think T1 are in simply because they have the resources and connections. That or theyd give pity slot to SEN
NRG and TGRD just aren't as big as these other orgs

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aTastyCook1e [#32]

Shroud Tarik and Tenz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100T and EG

3 somewhat big streamers
VERSUS
An army of big streamers
Nadeshot, Valkyrae, WillNeff, VinnieHacker, Kyedae, Fuslie, Hiko, Yassuo, BrookeAB, Neekolul, AustinShow, etc
Not even including the pros themselves in this list
Not really a real competition youve got going there

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Mjtchell [#33]

I think they shouldn't be involved in BR simply because they relocated just to pay the players less than they would an EMEA roster

I also agree with you but apparently they didn't show any sign of disbanding and from the interviews with the nip players I think they have a very good chance of getting into more American franchises

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Mjtchell [#23]

Leviatan is in the League circuit Sentinels has no connection to riot prior to valorant

I don't think they are in LLA, they have a tier2 team as far as I'm aware, and sentinels used to have a league team when they were called phoenix1. I imagine that if Riot would rather have an org like EG over sentinels then I imagine they would rather have an org like Infinity over Leviatan

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nrg > eg

#43
Mjtchell
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SteveLob [#42]

nrg > eg

Nrg has little to no Riot connection

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Loopzin [#35]

How do you know that ? many news are saying that it will be 3 organization pro br 2 latam

Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently

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aTastyCook1e [#44]

Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently

I don't agree, we have such large organizations that are in the scenario that would go head to head in addition to loud fury / Mibr, Nip , Fluxo and GL

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SEN
NRG :
C9
100T
TSM
LEV/9Z :
KRU
LOUD
FURIA
GAMELANDERS :
the ones with : I'm not too sure, the rest is basically confirmed

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Nip should buy leviatan if they dont make franchise with brazil ,

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Mjtchell [#27]

Need someone to be the villain

Nah, a crappy org doesn't need to be in franchising. Make a villian through marketing, not through being crappy human beings.

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sank3tsu [#47]

Nip should buy leviatan if they dont make franchise with brazil ,

NIP should not be in franchise

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Mjtchell [#49]

NIP should not be in franchise

why? i think they have more money then furia

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Loopzin [#45]

I don't agree, we have such large organizations that are in the scenario that would go head to head in addition to loud fury / Mibr, Nip , Fluxo and GL

Just see the list of the post, none of these orgs you cited are bigger than NA orgs, and still lacked some NA orgs that are also bigger like Sentinels and NRG...

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kshah [#10]

so does T1 and they arent making it for sure

wait so T1 might not make it but xeta left C9 which is now guaranteed a spot in franchising and went to a team that won't make it? that tells me xeta leaving might have been a team decision rather than a personal one

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aTastyCook1e [#44]

Because the most important for a franchise is the return that approved orgs will give to RIOT, and NA has much higher orgs than any possible 3 BR org, only LOUD and FURIA match head-on with these NA orgs currently

Burro. A MIBR que é da Immortals tem mais capital e estrutura que a Loud e Furia. Loud e Furia estão muito longe do capital de qualquer organização do NA, sem comparação mesmo

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sank3tsu [#50]

why? i think they have more money then furia

Rat org, left EMEA just so they could pay players less
If there are little amounts of orgs it should be an org thats committed to the region as a whole not an org that only invests in regions for them to be cheaper

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Sukita [#53]

Burro. A MIBR que é da Immortals tem mais capital e estrutura que a Loud e Furia. Loud e Furia estão muito longe do capital de qualquer organização do NA, sem comparação mesmo

Burro é você de achar que é só dinheiro que importa, retardado. MIBR atualmente não tem nem 1/4 do prestígio e engajamento que um dia já tiveram no passado, se é q vc ta contando com isso.

Quer apostar alguma coisa que a MIBR n passa nas franquias? Mr just money matter.

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unknown_trash [#52]

wait so T1 might not make it but xeta left C9 which is now guaranteed a spot in franchising and went to a team that won't make it? that tells me xeta leaving might have been a team decision rather than a personal one

This is the stupidest take I've seen
T1 is the 100T of Korea in terms of opportunity.
T1 is almost guaranteed franchising whether its in Korea or NA
They have 3 Korean players and Steel is learning Korean in case it comes to T1 playing in Korea
Either way Xeta is gonna be fine

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Leviatan won’t be there but this roster (or a huge part of it) will

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Sukita [#57]

Leviatan won’t be there but this roster (or a huge part of it) will

I think I'd like Fusion to be there if Leviatán can't

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Mjtchell
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kshah [#3]

eg is dead as fuck lmao

You've never watched League or CS then

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bernog [#46]

SEN
NRG :
C9
100T
TSM
LEV/9Z :
KRU
LOUD
FURIA
GAMELANDERS :
the ones with : I'm not too sure, the rest is basically confirmed

It’ll be 6 NA for sure.

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Mjtchell [#56]

This is the stupidest take I've seen
T1 is the 100T of Korea in terms of opportunity.
T1 is almost guaranteed franchising whether its in Korea or NA
They have 3 Korean players and Steel is learning Korean in case it comes to T1 playing in Korea
Either way Xeta is gonna be fine

But drx is pretty much confirmed for Korea. T1 will be competing with damwon kia for the spot. Both are huge organised, and I feel like if it comes downto it, riot will choose damwon over t1 because they already have a valorant team in Korea, while t1 are still in na.

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