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G2 changes: Mixwell joins KOI
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Mbappe [#3]KOI would be dumb not to get him if he is free. Perfect fit for Spanish content org
Yeah the problem is that he is not free lol, Ocelote not gonna let him go like that, it's way more beneficial to keep him benched as Content creator
Never_Wrong [#5]I mean why not
I mean if they pull the wallet Kolda is gonna want to play with Mix so could be. Still not very likely xD
Mortadelo [#4]Yeah the problem is that he is not free lol, Ocelote not gonna let him go like that, it's way more beneficial to keep him benched as Content creator
I don't think he's producing any value for G2 as a streamer. Besides, they don't really need those
ocelote himself has already stated keeping players on payroll is way more expensive than just letting them go, but he only does it to stay true to his ethics (something players should commit to as well since they're signing a contract)
he's definitely in talks with other orgs, he's getting picked up plus his G2 contract must be running out soon
Never_Wrong [#7]I don't think he's producing any value for G2 as a streamer. Besides, they don't really need those
ocelote himself has already stated keeping players on payroll is way more expensive than just letting them go, but he only does it to stay true to his ethics (something players should commit to as well since they're signing a contract)
he's definitely in talks with other orgs, he's getting picked up plus his G2 contract must be running out soon
G2 doesn't gift players like that and less to direct competition. And yes Mixwell as Content Creator would be the reason why most Spanish people would keep supporting them
Mortadelo [#8]G2 doesn't gift players like that and less to direct competition. And yes Mixwell as Content Creator would be the reason why most Spanish people would keep supporting them
Yeah but the question is does G2 really need to keep him for "content creation", because they've made it clear they don't
The last (and only) big content creator they've signed was Ibai in 2020. All their streamers are G2 proplayers streaming in their free time
G2 finds another player
Builds up his brand
Creates a following around him
Player eventually leaves
Repeat
Why'd they ever focus on someone's fanbase lol
Never_Wrong [#9]Yeah but the question is does G2 really need to keep him for "content creation", because they've made it clear they don't
The last (and only) big content creator they've signed was Ibai in 2020. All their streamers are G2 proplayers streaming in their free time
G2 finds another player
Builds up his brand
Creates a following around him
Player eventually leaves
RepeatWhy'd they ever focus on someone's fanbase lol
Has G2 ever let a player go free?
They even had pyth for a year on the bench
Never_Wrong [#7]I don't think he's producing any value for G2 as a streamer. Besides, they don't really need those
ocelote himself has already stated keeping players on payroll is way more expensive than just letting them go, but he only does it to stay true to his ethics (something players should commit to as well since they're signing a contract)
he's definitely in talks with other orgs, he's getting picked up plus his G2 contract must be running out soon
You’re clueless. Mixwell produces a ton of value. Literally top10 most tweeted about esports player in the last 2 years. He has a huge spanish fanbase and Carlos knows that. They’ve been keeping KennyS on the bench for the last 2 years because of the same reason.
Mortadelo [#10]Has G2 ever let a player go free?
They even had pyth for a year on the bench
Idk, but why'd they do that anyways
Btw it's either KOI or Giants. Forgot about them
Victorie [#11]You’re clueless. Mixwell produces a ton of value. Literally top10 most tweeted about esports player in the last 2 years. He has a huge spanish fanbase and Carlos knows that. They’ve been keeping KennyS on the bench for the last 2 years because of the same reason.
You forgot the part where G2 doesn't give a fuck about any of that?
"Carlos knows that... KennyS on the bench because of the same reason" lmfao why you talking out of your ass. G2 wants to get rid of Mixwell ASAP
The only reason kennyS is on the bench is because no team is interested in him. Simple
Trying to portray G2 as some kind of streamers' org when kennyS started focusing on Twitch way after getting benched lmao
Never_Wrong [#14]You forgot the part where G2 doesn't give a fuck about any of that?
"Carlos knows that... KennyS on the bench because of the same reason" lmfao why you talking out of your ass. G2 wants to get rid of Mixwell ASAPThe only reason kennyS is on the bench is because no team is interested in him. Simple
Trying to portray G2 as some kind of streamers' org when kennyS started focusing on Twitch way after getting benched lmao
You’re stupid and trying to educate you is pointless. Goodbye now.
Never_Wrong [#13]Idk, but why'd they do that anyways
Btw it's either KOI or Giants. Forgot about them
Heretics has more options imo, but yeah idk why G2 does this but it's pretty clear that's what they do, look at KennyS too. Idk how long is Mixwell's contract but KOI is gonna have to pull the wallet
Victorie [#15]You’re stupid and trying to educate you is pointless. Goodbye now.
Btw kennyS kept playing up until 2021
"You’re stupid and trying to educate you is pointless."
Accurate self-description. You can leave it here before embarrassing yourself any further
Never_Wrong [#14]You forgot the part where G2 doesn't give a fuck about any of that?
"Carlos knows that... KennyS on the bench because of the same reason" lmfao why you talking out of your ass. G2 wants to get rid of Mixwell ASAPThe only reason kennyS is on the bench is because no team is interested in him. Simple
Trying to portray G2 as some kind of streamers' org when kennyS started focusing on Twitch way after getting benched lmao
Ofc there are teams interested in KennyS, just not interested in paying the huge buyout he has dude. We're not saying they keep them to be streamers, they keep them because they wanna keep making money out of them by selling them, streaming it's more a consequence
Mortadelo [#10]Has G2 ever let a player go free?
They even had pyth for a year on the bench
They let Koldamenta go free. He had no buyout nor contract expired. Carlos confirmed it
VirajKnight [#19]They let Koldamenta go free. He had no buyout nor contract expired. Carlos confirmed it
They swapped him for Zeek dude, that's not free
Mortadelo [#21]They swapped him for Zeek dude, that's not free
WHat? I said Carlos said he let Koldamenta go to Guild for free. Don't know if it is true or not.
Mortadelo [#18]Ofc there are teams interested in KennyS, just not interested in paying the huge buyout he has dude. We're not saying they keep them to be streamers, they keep them because they wanna keep making money out of them by selling them, streaming it's more a consequence
"because they wanna keep making money out of them by selling them"
-Orgs have to make money so they keep sustaining players, we can keep discussing this esports shithousery and so on, among other reasons.
-Players also want money, that's why they SIGN a contract they're obligated to fulfill, under their own responsibilities.
-Orgs don't want to pay kennyS' - massively reducted buyout% over the years, (he's basically free?) dk where you getting this "big" label from - because neither kennyS nor the org are profitting from it.
"streaming it's more a consequence"
Again, what makes you think Mixwell streaming twice a week with a barely noticeable G2 logo somewhat compensates his 30k monthly-salary, missing out on players, wasting time and winning 0 trophies?
VirajKnight [#22]WHat? I said Carlos said he let Koldamenta go to Guild for free. Don't know if it is true or not.
Oh mb I got the transaction switched. Yeah did he say that? I'm surprised I would think GUILD had payed for it, but if it's true then yeah
VirajKnight [#19]They let Koldamenta go free. He had no buyout nor contract expired. Carlos confirmed it
Didn't know this. Thanks
Mortadelo [#18]Ofc there are teams interested in KennyS, just not interested in paying the huge buyout he has dude. We're not saying they keep them to be streamers, they keep them because they wanna keep making money out of them by selling them, streaming it's more a consequence
Bro Heretics just payed 40M for a LEC spot and we're really acting like a reasonable buyout (negotiations exist for a reason too) is a reason for this teams to pull out cmon...
You either go in or you don't
Never_Wrong [#23]"because they wanna keep making money out of them by selling them"
-Orgs have to make money so they keep sustaining players, we can keep discussing this esports shithousery and so on, among other reasons.
-Players also want money, that's why they SIGN a contract they're obligated to fulfill, under their own responsibilities.
-Orgs don't want to pay kennyS' - massively reducted buyout% over the years, (he's basically free?) dk where you getting this "big" label from - because neither kennyS nor the org are profitting from it.
"streaming it's more a consequence"
Again, what makes you think Mixwell streaming twice a week with a barely noticeable G2 logo somewhat compensates his 30k monthly-salary, missing out on players, wasting time and winning 0 trophies?
I don't think you understand how the world works my friend
"Orgs don't want to pay kennyS' - massively reduced buyout% over the years, dk where you getting this "big" label from - because neither kennyS nor the org are profiting from it."
Why don't they fucking release him if what you are saying it's true, I can guarantee you that KennyS is not asking for the money in his contract cause he just wants to fucking go, G2 won't let that happen un til his contract it's over or someone buys him, it's literally a fact dude.
"Again, what makes you think Mixwell streaming twice a week with a barely noticeable G2 logo somewhat compensates his 30k monthly-salary, missing out on players, wasting time and winning 0 trophies?"
Because a fucking business doesn't care about what the players wanna do with their fucking careers, they want what's best for the business, and yes that is keeping the player knowing you can sell him for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes, Mixwell it's a top 10 players in esports with more interactions and yes that can be sold to sponsors dude, it's how world works
Mortadelo [#16]Heretics has more options imo, but yeah idk why G2 does this but it's pretty clear that's what they do, look at KennyS too. Idk how long is Mixwell's contract but KOI is gonna have to pull the wallet
Why'd anyone cash out in kennyS. CS:GO market is completely different. You'll find cracked and better awpers around every corner
"KOI is gonna have to pull the wallet"
That's how it should be my bro
Never_Wrong [#27]Bro Heretics just payed 40M for a LEC spot and we're really acting like a reasonable buyout (negotiations exist for a reason too) is a reason for this teams to pull out cmon...
You either go in or you don't
You lost me here I don't get what you're saying
Never_Wrong [#29]Why'd anyone cash out in kennyS. CS:GO market is completely different. You'll find cracked and better awpers around every corner
"KOI is gonna have to pull the wallet"
That's how it should be my bro
You're not getting my point
Mortadelo [#28]I don't think you understand how the world works my friend
"Orgs don't want to pay kennyS' - massively reduced buyout% over the years, dk where you getting this "big" label from - because neither kennyS nor the org are profiting from it."
Why don't they fucking release him if what you are saying it's true, I can guarantee you that KennyS is not asking for the money in his contract cause he just wants to fucking go, G2 won't let that happen un til his contract it's over or someone buys him, it's literally a fact dude.
"Again, what makes you think Mixwell streaming twice a week with a barely noticeable G2 logo somewhat compensates his 30k monthly-salary, missing out on players, wasting time and winning 0 trophies?"
Because a fucking business doesn't care about what the players wanna do with their fucking careers, they want what's best for the business, and yes that is keeping the player knowing you can sell him for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes, Mixwell it's a top 10 players in esports with more interactions and yes that can be sold to sponsors dude, it's how world works
Bro how are you so guillible and what's this overly simplistic view...
Why don't they fucking release him if what you are saying it's true
What?
I can guarantee you that KennyS is not asking for the money in his contract cause he just wants to fucking go, G2 won't let that happen un til his contract it's over or someone buys him, it's literally a fact dude.
Alright kennyS manager.
Why are you conveniently ignoring the part where:
- There's nothing wrong with that
- kennyS has turned down offers from teams approaching him. This is old news
- kennyS is no longer interested in competing and he'd rather be a G2 streamer with option to renewal?
Imagine you're in a private meeting with a CEO paying you 50k monthly after buying you out for 300k, he says you're gonna play for the team for 1 and a half years, you discuss terms and conditions and you AGREE (by signing a contract)a
Now imagine something goes wrong 2 months later and you wish to step down.
Why should your pussy ass irresponsibility prevail over your GIVEN WORD and be the cause of greater losses just because you feel like it and you decided to violate the set terms and conditions you didn't comply at all?
You sure you understand how the real world works?
Mortadelo [#28]I don't think you understand how the world works my friend
"Orgs don't want to pay kennyS' - massively reduced buyout% over the years, dk where you getting this "big" label from - because neither kennyS nor the org are profiting from it."
Why don't they fucking release him if what you are saying it's true, I can guarantee you that KennyS is not asking for the money in his contract cause he just wants to fucking go, G2 won't let that happen un til his contract it's over or someone buys him, it's literally a fact dude.
"Again, what makes you think Mixwell streaming twice a week with a barely noticeable G2 logo somewhat compensates his 30k monthly-salary, missing out on players, wasting time and winning 0 trophies?"
Because a fucking business doesn't care about what the players wanna do with their fucking careers, they want what's best for the business, and yes that is keeping the player knowing you can sell him for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes, Mixwell it's a top 10 players in esports with more interactions and yes that can be sold to sponsors dude, it's how world works
Because a fucking business doesn't care about what the players wanna do with their fucking careers
The only reason players have this careers to begin with is thanks to this business.
I don't get this point or how is it related to what I said.
We should really put this parasocial relationship with pro players aside. They're looking out for their best interest just like any other person out there.
So when a player does it: I'd like him to shag me
When the org providing him everything does it: eww
Regarding the last part, again, you fail to understand G2 doesn't give a fuck about any of those.
It's G2 who we talking about I don't care about other orgs
Mixwell produced 0 (ZERO) value for G2 as of now. How id that hard to understand
Even if he was the most talked-about player with 20million followers, you really think they'd hesitate to kick him out when that doesn't translate into trophies nor does it align with the org's ambitions or philosophy?
Bro
Mortadelo [#30]You lost me here I don't get what you're saying
Org's budget is a topic that should be discussed with objective criteria and not under the oneself's perception.
Heretics have paid €40M for a spot in LEC (LoL European Championship), when 8/10 orgs suffer losses
Even regional, academy teams could afford any given player. Let's not act like "buyouts" are some sort of problem with them. That's on the players to begin with
If they believe in the system they're creating and they need a fitting piece, they'll go for it no matter what. They won't beat around the bush
So if [insert player] doesn't get picked up, is because they're not showing interest in him
Never_Wrong [#35]Org's budget is a topic that should be discussed with objective criteria and not under the oneself's perception.
Heretics have paid €40M for a spot in LEC (LoL European Championship), when 8/10 orgs suffer losses
Even regional, academy teams could afford any given player. Let's not act like "buyouts" are some sort of problem with them. That's on the players to begin with
If they believe in the system they're creating and they need a fitting piece, they'll go for it no matter what. They won't beat around the bush
So if [insert player] doesn't get picked up, is because they're not showing interest in him
That's just not true, and again I'm just gonna put a real example, many teams wanted Keloqz right after he was benched but non of them were willing to pay the ridiculous buy-out he had, and it wasn't until when at the end of the market G2 reportedly lowered the buyout to a tenth of what it was before when Heretics paid it, and even after the lowering it was too much for teams like MRS.
So yes, buyouts are a thing, and yes, G2 makes money out of them
Never_Wrong [#32]Bro how are you so guillible and what's this overly simplistic view...
Why don't they fucking release him if what you are saying it's true
What?
I can guarantee you that KennyS is not asking for the money in his contract cause he just wants to fucking go, G2 won't let that happen un til his contract it's over or someone buys him, it's literally a fact dude.
Alright kennyS manager.
Why are you conveniently ignoring the part where:
- There's nothing wrong with that
- kennyS has turned down offers from teams approaching him. This is old news
- kennyS is no longer interested in competing and he'd rather be a G2 streamer with option to renewal?
Imagine you're in a private meeting with a CEO paying you 50k monthly after buying you out for 300k, he says you're gonna play for the team for 1 and a half years, you discuss terms and conditions and you AGREE (by signing a contract)a
Now imagine something goes wrong 2 months later and you wish to step down.
Why should your pussy ass irresponsibility prevail over your GIVEN WORD and be the cause of greater losses just because you feel like it and you decided to violate the set terms and conditions you didn't comply at all?
You sure you understand how the real world works?
Exactly this dude, a contract it's your word, and until that contract expires you have to do what that contract says which is exactly why if no one buys mixwell out he will remain as content creator and behave like a professional
Never_Wrong [#33]Because a fucking business doesn't care about what the players wanna do with their fucking careers
The only reason players have this careers to begin with is thanks to this business.
I don't get this point or how is it related to what I said.We should really put this parasocial relationship with pro players aside. They're looking out for their best interest just like any other person out there.
So when a player does it: I'd like him to shag meWhen the org providing him everything does it: eww
Regarding the last part, again, you fail to understand G2 doesn't give a fuck about any of those.
It's G2 who we talking about I don't care about other orgsMixwell produced 0 (ZERO) value for G2 as of now. How id that hard to understand
Even if he was the most talked-about player with 20million followers, you really think they'd hesitate to kick him out when that doesn't translate into trophies nor does it align with the org's ambitions or philosophy?
Bro
How can you think that a player like mixwell doesn't bring any value????? Ofc G2 wouldn't hesitate to kick him if he is not good enough, but kick him off the TEAM not the org dude, he has a contract and not using it is straight away giving money for free.
And yes that is exactly what I mean when I say a business doesn't care about the players. If no one wants to pay for him G2 is not gonna care if Mixwell really wants to compete, he's still gonna have to fulfill his time there
no_noise_979 [#39]if any partnered orgs want to sign washed bots only for content then i will actively root against them
sentinals? are you rooting for that?
Mortadelo [#40]How can you think that a player like mixwell doesn't bring any value????? Ofc G2 wouldn't hesitate to kick him if he is not good enough, but kick him off the TEAM not the org dude, he has a contract and not using it is straight away giving money for free.
And yes that is exactly what I mean when I say a business doesn't care about the players. If no one wants to pay for him G2 is not gonna care if Mixwell really wants to compete, he's still gonna have to fulfill his time there
Nothing I haven't said before. Why is it so hard for you to understand.
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Mixwell is not an up and coming star, nor a massive personality or content creator.
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He's milked to the last drop, he's dried out.
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His monthly salary G2 is handling him >>> a 5k viewers once in a lifetime Twitch stream with a faded G2 layout.
The reason G2 is keeping him is because they stay TRUE to their contracts and they're able to maintain some ethics, staying true to their beliefs unlike 90% of the orgs out there.
Imagine if you were hired and your boss just flat out decided to throw you under the buss not paying you the wages you signed up for.
Now please tell me, what the fuck is the value Mixwell adds to G2?????
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G2 creates superstars out of thin air. They are LOSING with Mixwell
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He wasn't known before G2. Neither the rest of the players
Mortadelo [#37]That's just not true, and again I'm just gonna put a real example, many teams wanted Keloqz right after he was benched but non of them were willing to pay the ridiculous buy-out he had, and it wasn't until when at the end of the market G2 reportedly lowered the buyout to a tenth of what it was before when Heretics paid it, and even after the lowering it was too much for teams like MRS.
So yes, buyouts are a thing, and yes, G2 makes money out of them
You fail to get simple points and you're arguing for the sake of it.
buyouts are a thing
Ok?
G2 makes money out of them"
Thank God. As they or any other org should
it was too much"
Based on?
Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria part
That's just not true
Lol
"uS fAnS wAnT kEloQz foR tHis tier999 teaM WitH 0 sustainability!!!! REleaSe hiM for FreE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Nobody gives a fuck?
Do you ever hear yourselves? Tf is this entitled fairy-world some of you live in lmao
Donate to the orgs if you want these moves to happen so bad lol
Never_Wrong [#47]Nothing I haven't said before. Why is it so hard for you to understand.
Mixwell is not an up and coming star, nor a massive personality or content creator.
He's milked to the last drop, he's dried out.
His monthly salary G2 is handling him >>> a 5k viewers once in a lifetime Twitch stream with a faded G2 layout.
The reason G2 is keeping him is because they stay TRUE to their contracts and they're able to maintain some ethics, staying true to their beliefs unlike 90% of the orgs out there.
Imagine if you were hired and your boss just flat out decided to throw you under the buss not paying you the wages you signed up for.
Now please tell me, what the fuck is the value Mixwell adds to G2?????
G2 creates superstars out of thin air. They are LOSING with Mixwell
He wasn't known before G2. Neither the rest of the players
Dude let's just agree to disagree here cause I don't think we agree get anywhere with this. The whole thing here is that you seem to think mixwell doesn't bring value to an org and I believe the exact opposite, I've read your arguments, understand them, don't share them, and Ig you do the same with mines so let's just drop it
Never_Wrong [#9]Yeah but the question is does G2 really need to keep him for "content creation", because they've made it clear they don't
The last (and only) big content creator they've signed was Ibai in 2020. All their streamers are G2 proplayers streaming in their free time
G2 finds another player
Builds up his brand
Creates a following around him
Player eventually leaves
RepeatWhy'd they ever focus on someone's fanbase lol
What about Lothar? What else does he do in G2 than stream?
Never_Wrong [#48]You fail to get simple points and you're arguing for the sake of it.
buyouts are a thing
Ok?
G2 makes money out of them"
Thank God. As they or any other org should
it was too much"
Based on?
Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria partThat's just not true
Lol
"uS fAnS wAnT kEloQz foR tHis tier999 teaM WitH 0 sustainability!!!! REleaSe hiM for FreE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Nobody gives a fuck?
Do you ever hear yourselves? Tf is this entitled fairy-world some of you live in lmaoDonate to the orgs if you want these moves to happen so bad lol
Dude I can't with this anymore wtf are you saying
Thank God. As they or any other org should
Then why tf you think they shouldn't do that with Mixwell, which is my initial claim and all I'm trying to say here
Based on?
Based on MRS coach saying "We can't afford it" idk if it works for you
Mortadelo [#49]Dude let's just agree to disagree here cause I don't think we agree get anywhere with this. The whole thing here is that you seem to think mixwell doesn't bring value to an org and I believe the exact opposite, I've read your arguments, understand them, don't share them, and Ig you do the same with mines so let's just drop it
Agree to disagree indeed but I never stated Mixwell doesn't add value to an org, I was purely talking about G2 in specific for the aforementioned reasons. He has reached his peak the org, there's nothing else to show
If he goes to another org it'll be completely different and he will obviously have a positive impact
Never_Wrong [#48]You fail to get simple points and you're arguing for the sake of it.
buyouts are a thing
Ok?
G2 makes money out of them"
Thank God. As they or any other org should
it was too much"
Based on?
Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria partThat's just not true
Lol
"uS fAnS wAnT kEloQz foR tHis tier999 teaM WitH 0 sustainability!!!! REleaSe hiM for FreE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Nobody gives a fuck?
Do you ever hear yourselves? Tf is this entitled fairy-world some of you live in lmaoDonate to the orgs if you want these moves to happen so bad lol
In response to your edit, first of all respect, second of all you're literally giving me the fucking reason I don't want fucking keloqz I'm literally saying the opposite that if they did that with keloqz why tf aren't they gonna do it with mixwell, dude get it on your head cause I think you haven't even understood what this argument is about
SOSEN-VIRAL [#50]What about Lothar? What else does he do in G2 than stream?
Afaik Lothar was a Fn and Hearthstone proplayer too. He's not a "big" content creator
been in G2 since 2016 or some shit
Never_Wrong [#52]Agree to disagree indeed but I never stated Mixwell doesn't add value to an org, I was purely talking about G2 in specific for the aforementioned reasons. He has reached his peak the org, there's nothing else to show
If he goes to another org it'll be completely different and he will obviously have a positive impact
You said you think G2 couldn't use him as a content creator and that he would bring 0 value, yes,k still disagree
Mortadelo [#53]In response to your edit, first of all respect, second of all you're literally giving me the fucking reason I don't want fucking keloqz I'm literally saying the opposite that if they did that with keloqz why tf aren't they gonna do it with mixwell, dude get it on your head cause I think you haven't even understood what this argument is about
There's been too many misunderstandings in this thing, definitely
Never_Wrong [#48]You fail to get simple points and you're arguing for the sake of it.
buyouts are a thing
Ok?
G2 makes money out of them"
Thank God. As they or any other org should
it was too much"
Based on?
Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria partThat's just not true
Lol
"uS fAnS wAnT kEloQz foR tHis tier999 teaM WitH 0 sustainability!!!! REleaSe hiM for FreE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Nobody gives a fuck?
Do you ever hear yourselves? Tf is this entitled fairy-world some of you live in lmaoDonate to the orgs if you want these moves to happen so bad lol
Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria part
All I'm talking here is reported information that has been corroborated by both Lembo and Lucas Rojo who knows everything since he was really close from closing a cesion for the player and isiends with him so yes, what I'm saying here are all proven facts
Mortadelo [#55]You said you think G2 couldn't use him as a content creator and that he would bring 0 value, yes,k still disagree
You said you think G2 couldn't use him as a content creator and that he would bring 0 value
Exactly
G2 is G2. Why are you applying general terms when we're SPECIFICALLY talking about what Mixwell adds to G2
G2 and McNuggets Esports are the same thing now?
Never_Wrong [#56]There's been too many misunderstandings in this thing, definitely
Yup, I think we are probbaly the two worse persons in this site to get an argument with xD, so yeah let's please just drop it xD, tie
Mortadelo [#57]Re-read my comment entirely and try to slowly understand it because it's very insightful.
Especially the literal FIRST line, emphasizing the objective criteria partAll I'm talking here is reported information that has been corroborated by both Lembo and Lucas Rojo who knows everything since he was really close from closing a cesion for the player and isiends with him so yes, what I'm saying here are all proven facts
It's never "too much" they just don't fucking wanna pay what's he's worth although they can afford it lol. (Talking in general terms, if you bring an irrelevant broke ass team into this do they expect to get everyone for free?)
There'll always be a team with funds out there
Never_Wrong [#59]You said you think G2 couldn't use him as a content creator and that he would bring 0 value
Exactly
G2 is G2. Why are you applying general terms when we're SPECIFICALLY talking about what Mixwell adds to G2
G2 and McNuggets Esports are the same thing now?
So Mixwell brings fans to any other org but not to G2? Or fans matter to any other org but G2? Dude I get we are both here for the trophies and not the content, but fans give you the money to win those thropies. And yes Mixwell as content creator is worth a lot of money
Mortadelo [#38]Exactly this dude, a contract it's your word, and until that contract expires you have to do what that contract says which is exactly why if no one buys mixwell out he will remain as content creator and behave like a professional
I overlooked this comment and yeah, I've just been arguing for the sake of it because we were basically saying the same thing
Insane. I'll take my meds
Have a good one
Never_Wrong [#61]It's never "too much" they just don't fucking wanna pay what's he's worth although they can afford it lol. (Talking in general terms, if you bring an irrelevant broke ass team into this do they expect to get everyone for free?)
There'll always be a team with funds out there
Dude fr, I could get in another whole 2 page argument with you about this rn but I quit xD
Rauo1 [#46]Calla ratita
apollas a koi antes que el unico equipo que tiene representación española que puede conseguir algo (de momento)
quieres a mixwell en koi y te burlas de el
Never_Wrong [#63]I overlooked this comment and yeah, I've just been arguing for the sake of it because we were basically saying the same thing
Insane. I'll take my meds
Have a good one
Same here dude, xD. It was nice while it lasted tho.
Probably I should just go to sleep lol
Mortadelo [#62]So Mixwell brings fans to any other org but not to G2? Or fans matter to any other org but G2? Dude I get we are both here for the trophies and not the content, but fans give you the money to win those thropies. And yes Mixwell as content creator is worth a lot of money
Yeah basically. To put it simply, let's take G2 Mixwell and his KOI announcement as an example.
Mixwell has been in G2 since early 2020 (that's a lot of time)
This means he's had his time to build up an established audience, which in turn means everyone knows G2 Mixwell already
The flow of new fans is logically lower. As in everything, there's a first impact, a development, a peak, consistency and decline. Mixwell is in consistent-decline stage in G2.
This is like your average YouTuber popping off in his first year and slowly fading away over the curse of the years because everyone already knows him
NOW, if Mixwell joins KOI for instance, he'll get NEW fans, NEW impact, another environment granting him NEW followers and so on...
Mortadelo [#62]So Mixwell brings fans to any other org but not to G2? Or fans matter to any other org but G2? Dude I get we are both here for the trophies and not the content, but fans give you the money to win those thropies. And yes Mixwell as content creator is worth a lot of money
It's like an exploited vs virgin land if you get what I'm saying.
Mixwell as content creator is worth a lot of money
I think you overestimate how much of that money actually goes to G2. They're not dependant on Mixwell, that's my point
Mortadelo [#66]Same here dude, xD. It was nice while it lasted tho.
Probably I should just go to sleep lol
Have a gn rest well man
Never_Wrong [#67]Yeah basically. To put it simply, let's take G2 Mixwell and his KOI announcement as an example.
Mixwell has been in G2 since early 2020 (that's a lot of time)
This means he's had his time to build up an established audience, which in turn means everyone knows G2 Mixwell already
The flow of new fans is logically lower. As in everything, there's a first impact, a development, a peak, consistency and decline. Mixwell is in consistent-decline stage in G2.
This is like your average YouTuber popping off in his first year and slowly fading away over the curse of the years because everyone already knows him
NOW, if Mixwell joins KOI for instance, he'll get NEW fans, NEW impact, another environment granting him NEW followers and so on...
Ofc, mixwell joining KOI would be actually insane for both of them, I don't doubt that and I really hope it happens.
Again, Guild + Mixwell on Koi is my wet dream
Never_Wrong [#68]It's like an exploited vs virgin land if you get what I'm saying.
Mixwell as content creator is worth a lot of money
I think you overestimate how much of that money actually goes to G2. They're not dependant on Mixwell, that's my point
Ofc they are not depending on mixwell, just saying they are not gonna give him away if they don't get something in return
Mortadelo [#70]Ofc, mixwell joining KOI would be actually insane for both of them, I don't doubt that and I really hope it happens.
Again, Guild + Mixwell on Koi is my wet dream
Hope it happens then. Nothing but the best for him
Never_Wrong [#69]Have a gn rest well man
Glad this ended up well xD
Really wonder If there really is anyone else crazy enough to read all of this xD
Mortadelo [#71]Ofc they are not depending on mixwell, just saying they are not gonna give him away if they don't get something in return
Alright, gotchu
Mortadelo [#73]Glad this ended up well xD
Really wonder If there really is anyone else crazy enough to read all of this xD
It's good to have this discussions from time to time lmao
Nah bro nobody reading all this
We'll that's it for today you're a G
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