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G2, TSM, Liquid ROSTER CHANGE

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#1
Heavon

These orgs can't surely keep their rosters like this?
ardiis to Liquid? Why not at this point, they desperately needs a Sova

-Who
+Who
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EDIT:
Cloud9
Fnatic
Vitality

#2
myrrhhee
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g2 100% needs an IGL. Idk who is free rn, maybe Happy

#3
pampire
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#G2needCNED lmao

#4
ideekae
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I don’t think cned would wanna join the shitshow that is G2 until they get their IGL game together

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can10combr
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I think otherwise. G2 won't prefer cNed as long as they have Mixwell. cNed is still a youngster and an organization like G2 is always charming for him ofc. This union will neve happen I guess.

#21
pampire
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btw, i said that not because i think that, but because during the dfuse match the whole chat was spamming that (i said it for the meme)

#10
Adri98
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You dont know what G2 need...The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower...but tactically they are really bad compared with another teams. They need a IGL obviously

#16
TypeX
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" The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower" .........lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!

#18
xLinksz
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"The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower" ? xd

#24
Adruvi17
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What? Am I right?

#25
xLinksz
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nope

#5
syn505
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Tsm

-Cutler
+Brax / Koler

-tailored (coach)
+myth (coach)

/s

#9
capeside
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brax isnt gonna join TSM without AZK

#12
bigpeensheen
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Myth would be interesting in the coaching position

#13
greedeetv
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Sorry, but there's no way they would have myth as coach lol

#36
syn505
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the myth thing is a joke lol

#15
mAko
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is this a troll? lmao

#35
hArryy
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i'd love that knowing brax and koler are super good but who's gonna IGL?

#44
syn505
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hazed? He was IGLing for them before First Strike i think.
He said he would get too emotional but who knows maybe he might want to try it again.

#6
JerryAc
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The IGL from NIIP was the best option but they prefered Zeek

#22
pampire
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thing is nip actually trialled zeek and vak after fs, they just understood that wasn't what they needed unlike g2.

#41
JerryAc
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Well, i didn't know that, sometimes i think G2 just want good aimers, happily NIP understood who they really needed. and come on, they looks like another team

#30
D3p
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i think eX6tence is the best options

#8
can10combr
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G2 doesn't need an IGL or a roster change. They already proved they can beat anyone when they play their own game without trolling. When mental problems gone, when the players have a free mind and feel no pressure, everything will be good again for G2.

#43
DonGivafoc
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So far they are struggling to beat any tier 1 team so would you say they're trolling all the games they play right now?

#11
Adri98
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G2 ex6tenz -zeek or G2 lowel -zeek but this is impossible
TL just chosed the worst british players...Moe, Mistic, Boaster, Frei...

#14
Renvas
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I like this tbh..

#17
can10combr
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Add Fnatic to the title...

#19
hekzy
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Hahaha you got here first

#20
Heavon
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Done, LUL

#23
Ryuzaki
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the teams that has disappointed in NA

TSM
Cloud9
T1

Cloud9 and T1 have built their roster totally in a new way so its understandable, probably gonna take time to perfect everything.

and for EU

G2
Team Liquid
Fnatic
Vitality
Giants
OG
Wave

we all know G2 needs an igl
about Liquid, they just brought Jampi so might take time
Fnatic just unfortunate ig
Vitality is totally not doing good enough
Giants benched happy idk y
OG lost big time for some reason, they showed a lot of potential in Redbull home grounds and VCT qualifiers
Wave maybe just needs time

all my personal opinions, I could be drastically wrong, just let me know my mistakes :D

#26
jayy
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i thought the t1 roster did pretty well in challengers 3, its clear though that autimatic and curry need more time and skadoodle isn't comfortable in the role

i do also think dazed's style is a bit too static and is easy to read too

#27
Ryuzaki
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Honestly, I prefer the old T1 roster. When Dazed was asked in an interview to make his dream team out of any players, banned or unbanned, Dazed replied:

Me (Dazed)
Azk
Swag (Brax)
Ska
and Stewie2k

They did well in 1st strike, Azk was underperforming a bit so they had to let him go.

The current roster has potential and I think as smart Dazed is, he should try a bit harder to make strats. Twitch chat mostly says Dazed is failing because he makes valorant strats as if its CS.

#28
jayy
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I agree, sadly from what i recall dazed had a conflict with brax but i would've liked to see the roster stick around longer cause they broke it up when it was on the rise

I agree too, i also think spyder lurks way too much on jett and i would rather see him and ska role swap tbh

#29
Ryuzaki
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Yeah I don't understand the fact Spyder playing Jett over Ska, He is cracked but I think he should pick any other duelist and let Ska be Jett and the primary sniper.

#32
D3p
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i think that is the best option for T1

#39
beb0p
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ska prob doesnt like being aggresive, wants to play passive

#31
D3p
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i agree

#33
Sayf
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Just want to comment here.

There is no need for roster changes when organisations are in it for the long run. Sure, a lot of tier one teams were beaten by talents. But don't forget that these teams all have results to back up their skill. In the future, when top teams have time to develop to opponents that are rather unpredictable, we'll see a lot better results.

With that being said, there's nothing wrong with the roster of Liquid, G2 or Fnatic.

Starting with G2:

They're a top team that had an amazing run in almost every tournament that has ever been held thus far, their potential to achieve greatness is unlimited thanks to the skill of the players.

Liquid:

Sure, benching your IGL and signing a CS player that has barley had any time to adjust to the VALORANT environment is rather questionable. But the way I see it, if you give Jamppi two months to get used to the style and feel of the game and if he really wants to put in the effort Liquid will reign supreme once again.

Fnatic:

They have amazing results against top teams, good tournament finishes and most of all they're PUTTING IN THE WORK.

To summarize, these organisations couldn't give a single crap if the teams qualified or not. From a company prespective, they like to see things long-term. They believe that the players that they've signed have the potential to improve to such an extent that they will infact be a top contendor. And ALL these teams have the potential, it's just up to them to put in the work.

#34
Ryuzaki
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Well said but sometimes org do take things like "underperforming" into consideration for benching the player (you as a pro player know it better than anyone). In other times, when there is a cracked CS player or a really talented free agent, orgs try to put their hands on them even if it costs them something like benching a player. As a professional player, you can point more things out than I and others can and obviously you will be right about most of the things. Congratulations on making it to masters, I wish you and Guild Goodluck <3

#37
Fenerbahce
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TSM just needs a good raze player. Raze is the most important agent in this game now.And I think tsm should learn to play just one entry frag in some maps

#38
beb0p
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bro wdym, they already have subroza who is literally the best raze player in the game

#40
greedeetv
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Yeah he's so good he even has a phrase for the way he mastered the abilities.

#42
beb0p
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exactly man wtf is with these people

#45
bigpeensheen
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T1 is good but having made some roster moves just slows their progress
TSM is also good, but inconsistency is the thorn in their step for them. Drone and Subroza need to find their middle ground and stay on it
C9 WAS good, but TenZ left the roster, and that's a big downgrade since he wasa good entry fragger, and now they barely beat teams like Ghost?? cmon now

As for Liquid, They just shit the bed against good teams, idk why

#46
capeside
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TSM
-Cutler
+Rossy

#47
beb0p
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Who

#48
beb0p
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Get brax

#49
beb0p
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Cutler is igl we can’t boot him

#50
supernova
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C9 needs a full new roster
TSM needs to change 2 players
G2 needs an IGL
Liquid needs kick L1NK
EG and Vitality also needs a full new roster

#51
Fat_Lard
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So you're saying C9 should drop Leaf, poiz and xeta? And that EG should drop Aleksandar and Temperature? And that Vitality should drop everyone? Leaf is probably a top 20-25 player in NA, poiz is a young and upcoming talent and is a very good player and xeta can play many roles and play them very well. Aleksandar is a top 15 aimer in NA and Temperature is a very good support player. For Vitality I'm not sure what they need to do. It's not liek everyone on their team is bad but they just need to be better. I think they just need an upgrade over bramz cause everyone else are good players and there's probably not much better available.

#52
supernova
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Yes :)

#53
greedeetv
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relyks vice and mitch need to go asap for c9B to have any success. TenZ couldn't even carry those guys.

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