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vlr-demon

If say I wanted to make a vlr account for every single possible pickem for emea lcq, theoretically speaking how many accounts would I have to make?

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Depends on how many teams in each lcq

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Not relevant and not important

why would you want someone else to waste his time and calculate this for you

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asdfghjkl [#2]

Depends on how many teams in each lcq

"emea lcq"

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DrudaL
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1 acc
Cuz M3C will win in every timeline

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Neonfreak [#4]

"emea lcq"

im joking...

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something with permutations idk

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Edit : its 2^14 different accounts
Pretty simple actually. There 14 games total and 2 outcomes for each one. So 2^14

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2^14=16384 accounts idk if this is right

edit: I'm very sure this is right

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So if you number the teams from 1 through 8, then for each match, you can either choose the lower number team to win or the higher number team to win, so there are two choices you can make per match. Since there are 14 matches, you would need 2^14=16384 pickems to account for each bracket once.

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dexter000111 [#8]

Edit : its 2^14 different accounts
Pretty simple actually. There 14 games total and 2 outcomes for each one. So 2^14

seems like way more than 512, did you factor in the lower bracket also?

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absolutely bullshit what everyone says

its only in the hundreds of tries not thousands

please guys use common sense its only 8 teams

no way it has 14000 possibility

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Subreezy [#11]

seems like way more than 512, did you factor in the lower bracket also?

Aight I'll be right back lemme do it properly

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14 matches, 2 possible outcomes in each of them, so 2 ^ 14 = 16384

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dexter000111
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Styling911 [#12]

absolutely bullshit what everyone says

its only in the hundreds of tries not thousands

please guys use common sense its only 8 teams

no way it has 14000 possibility

Uneducated

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Subreezy [#7]

something with permutations idk

permutations/probability were the only things i really disliked in math lol

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Styling911 [#12]

absolutely bullshit what everyone says

its only in the hundreds of tries not thousands

please guys use common sense its only 8 teams

no way it has 14000 possibility

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idk if im thinking of this wrong, but isn't this the correct answer?:
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2479349/bracket-of-8-tournament
i know that this is for a single elim bracket, i couldn't find anything for a double elim bracket

and if it's wrong can someone explain why

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Subreezy [#7]

something with permutations idk

you dont even have to use permutations just use a tree

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Subreezy [#18]

idk if im thinking of this wrong, but isn't this the correct answer?:
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2479349/bracket-of-8-tournament
i know that this is for a single elim bracket, i couldn't find anything for a double elim bracket

and if it's wrong can someone explain why

I understand your confusion. Scroll a bit lower and read the comment by the guy named Kaligule he's explained it somewhat decently.
Basically the op has not considered a fixed starting match up and we're only concerned with the outcomes of the individual matches.

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🤓

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dexter000111 [#20]

I understand your confusion. Scroll a bit lower and read the comment by the guy named Kaligule he's explained it somewhat decently.
Basically the op has not considered a fixed starting match up and we're only concerned with the outcomes of the individual matches.

see i thought that at first but then someone corrects him and he proceeds to say "I knew I shouldn't answer sports questions." which made me think he was conceding on being incorrect

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Subreezy [#22]

see i thought that at first but then someone corrects him and he proceeds to say "I knew I shouldn't answer sports questions." which made me think he was conceding on being incorrect

Even I didn't understand what those 2 msgs meant but he's correct.

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