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APAC Slot Allocation

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SeulgiVLR

Hey guys! Kyoto here, just changed names.

https://twitter.com/SeulgiVLR/status/1549965101545005059
Some more info regarding the APAC league's slot allocation:

Korea & Japan will each have 2-4 orgs representing their region, more likely to be around 3 each.

The remaining slots will be for SEA, with South Asia and OCE possibly being included too, depending on who is selected by Riot. China's involvement is unknown for now.

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So 6 for south APAC?
1 sa
1 oce
1 th
1 mysg
1 ph
1 id

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luckypleb [#4]

So 6 for south APAC?
1 sa
1 oce
1 th
1 mysg
1 ph
1 id

He said 2-4 each so thats 4 to 8 from Kr+JPp
NO FUCKING WAY Its 8 orgs from that region the max I would guess would be 5

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3 for Korea ??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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This is good for KR, but it better not fuck up the potentially huge market in SEA.

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luckypleb [#4]

So 6 for south APAC?
1 sa
1 oce
1 th
1 mysg
1 ph
1 id

It's not going to be 1 slot for each sub region, it can be 3 slot for my/sg org or even whole remaining slot for Thai org

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archetype [#7]

This is good for KR, but it better not fuck up the potentially huge market in SEA.

It's not like KR and JP have bigger scene or play at a higher level... Only 3 slots for SEA when there are malay, indo, thai, sing, pinoy, viet ( they gonna become good soon when looking at every other esport games ). If riot don't provide some solution, some countries scene will die when they get no representative.

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WOHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR RIOT TO KILL OUR SCENE HERE IN SEA JUST LIKE CS POOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSS

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prxfanboy [#9]

It's not like KR and JP have bigger scene or play at a higher level... Only 3 slots for SEA when there are malay, indo, thai, sing, pinoy, viet ( they gonna become good soon when looking at every other esport games ). If riot don't provide some solution, some countries scene will die when they get no representative.

to be fair, JP does have a bigger scene. Korea has talent but no resources or viewership, so hopefully franchising saves them...but not at the cost of SEA.
Indonesia, Thailand, PH, and SG/MY have proven their worth in Valorant. HK/TW and VN have yet to do that tbh.

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wow gg L

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#10]

WOHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR RIOT TO KILL OUR SCENE HERE IN SEA JUST LIKE CS POOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSS

off to mobile legends we go

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archetype [#12]

to be fair, JP does have a bigger scene. Korea has talent but no resources or viewership, so hopefully franchising saves them...but not at the cost of SEA.
Indonesia, Thailand, PH, and SG/MY have proven their worth in Valorant. HK/TW and VN have yet to do that tbh.

still just a single country, maybe JP 3 spots, but for korea 2 spots are already a lot until they prove that their teams are good enough other than drx or their scene is big enough. Otherwise, it's just unfair and gonna kill SEA. I wasnt even counting HK/TW as well since I thought they gonna be with China. Edit : and ye Vietnam havent show much but their first seed did beat seed 2 thailand this vct

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Beyonder [#14]

off to mobile legends we go

killing the most talented region PagMan

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prxfanboy [#15]

still just a single country, maybe JP 3 spots, but for korea 2 spots are already a lot until they prove that their teams are good enough other than drx or their scene is big enough. Otherwise, it's just unfair and gonna kill SEA. I wasnt even counting HK/TW as well since I thought they gonna be with China. Edit : and ye Vietnam havent show much but their first seed did beat seed 2 thailand this vct

that single country puts up more numbers than entire regions, you're tripping. JP deserves all 3 slots these guys have insane viewership.

KR teams are good enough and so are their players. They've sent almost consistently the 1st/2nd most players to p much every international event and 2/3 KR teams made top 4 at APAC LCQ.
(2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2021, 1st at Masters Berlin, 4th at Champions, 2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2022, 2nd at Masters Copenhagen - every tournament except Berlin KR had only sent 1 team, whereas the top spots were usually occupied by regions that sent 2+ teams. this is crazy)
That was without the 2nd best KR team playing btw.

SEA deserves as many spots as possible though, because the talent pool and potential is really big in Valorant.

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KR with more than 2 slot doesn't make any sense.

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3 for each kr and jp is actually good, just hoping asia gets 12 slots so the remaining 6 go to Apac South

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I think the best slot allocation with this news would be:
3 JP
2 KR
1 CN
4 SEA
1 OCE
1 SA

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archetype [#17]

that single country puts up more numbers than entire regions, you're tripping. JP deserves all 3 slots these guys have insane viewership.

KR teams are good enough and so are their players. They've sent almost consistently the 1st/2nd most players to p much every international event and 2/3 KR teams made top 4 at APAC LCQ.
(2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2021, 1st at Masters Berlin, 4th at Champions, 2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2022, 2nd at Masters Copenhagen - every tournament except Berlin KR had only sent 1 team, whereas the top spots were usually occupied by regions that sent 2+ teams. this is crazy)
That was without the 2nd best KR team playing btw.

SEA deserves as many spots as possible though, because the talent pool and potential is really big in Valorant.

I agree with jp 3 slots only. KR have the most players in international events is because of connections from overwatch pro scene when valorant scene just started and they join jp teams.JP players were full of newbies so KR players easily win the spot and go international. Apac LCQ is quite a while ago when the scene was pretty new so its not that credible, full sense win that one anyway. If there is an lcq this year, are you sure KR can get the same result? And even with that 2 slots for KR is more than enough, but 3??

EDIT: bro I check all the liquidpedia page for the events already. KR have 2nd most players is because they play for JP teams like I said and they just get like 1 or 2 more than Thailand. Does that really matter lol?

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Sprouts [#20]

I think the best slot allocation with this news would be:
3 JP
2 KR
1 CN
4 SEA
1 OCE
1 SA

I have a feeling that China will be counted as one region.

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prxfanboy [#21]

I agree with jp 3 slots only. KR have the most players in international events is because of connections from overwatch pro scene when valorant scene just started and they join jp teams.JP players were full of newbies so KR players easily win the spot and go international. Apac LCQ is quite a while ago when the scene was pretty new so its not that credible, full sense win that one anyway. If there is an lcq this year, are you sure KR can get the same result? And even with that 2 slots for KR is more than enough, but 3??

EDIT: bro I check all the liquidpedia page for the events already. KR have 2nd most players is because they play for JP teams like I said and they just get like 1 or 2 more than Thailand. Does that really matter lol?

Well for every tournament bar 1 the best Japanese team had at least 2 Koreans as the star player/IGL so...

As for these outdated "incredible" stats, they're the only publicly available stats to go off. Plus the Masters Reykjavik and Copenhagen stats are still relevant. Meteor and JoXJo aren't OW players btw. Neither was Xeta.

I also checked the Liquipedia page. KR sent like 1 team almost every event save for Berlin but still ranked top 2 for most events. It's arguable that JP was the worst region but don't forget Xeta and Sayaplayer were at one point considered the best in their role in NA. And Meteor literally won 3-1 against ZETA, who placed 3rd last Masters.

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Well for every tournament bar 1 the best Japanese team had at least 2 Koreans as the star player/IGL so...

As for these outdated "incredible" stats, they're the only publicly available stats to go off. Plus the Masters Reykjavik and Copenhagen stats are still relevant. Meteor and JoXJo aren't OW players btw. Neither was Xeta.

I also checked the Liquipedia page. KR sent like 1 team almost every event save for Berlin but still ranked top 2 for most events. It's arguable that JP was the worst region but don't forget Xeta and Sayaplayer were at one point considered the best in their role in NA. And Meteor literally won 3-1 against ZETA, who placed 3rd last Masters.

As I said, 2 for KR is more than enough when there are 6, 7 countries in SEA got grouped together with possibility being included with OCE and INDIA. If you think otherwise then you are just delusional.

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prxfanboy [#24]

As I said, 2 for KR is more than enough when there are 6, 7 countries in SEA got grouped together with possibility being included with OCE and INDIA. If you think otherwise then you are just delusional.

Never said KR deserves 3, but you're acting like KR deserves only 1 and "maybe 2", which I disagree with. KR having 1 slot only is part of the reason KR talent is moving to other regions and qualifying from there (like NA and JP).

Results wise, KR is still a good region too considering they've had only 1 team.
1 3rd place finish
2 5-6th place
Now that I think about it KR is the best performing 1 slot region. BR/LATAM doesn't count because of playoffs seeding in 2022

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Never said KR deserves 3, but you're acting like KR deserves only 1 and "maybe 2", which I disagree with. KR having 1 slot only is part of the reason KR talent is moving to other regions and qualifying from there (like NA and JP).

Results wise, KR is still a good region too considering they've had only 1 team.
1 3rd place finish
2 5-6th place
Now that I think about it KR is the best performing 1 slot region. BR/LATAM doesn't count because of playoffs seeding in 2022

I never said KR deserve only 1, but 3 is too much no matter what when there are only 3 for sea, india and oce? like wtf lol

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Never said KR deserves 3, but you're acting like KR deserves only 1 and "maybe 2", which I disagree with. KR having 1 slot only is part of the reason KR talent is moving to other regions and qualifying from there (like NA and JP).

Results wise, KR is still a good region too considering they've had only 1 team.
1 3rd place finish
2 5-6th place
Now that I think about it KR is the best performing 1 slot region. BR/LATAM doesn't count because of playoffs seeding in 2022

KR def deserve 2 slots but JP??? like what how is that make sense??

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prxfanboy [#26]

I never said KR deserve only 1, but 3 is too much no matter what when there are only 3 for sea, india and oce? like wtf lol

for korea 2 spots are already a lot

?

And yeah, I'm not saying 3 isn't too much. I'm just saying KR talent is there and franchising is arguably saving the KR region from being bled dry.

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#27]

KR def deserve 2 slots but JP??? like what how is that make sense??

JP because they have a much bigger scene than everyone else and they have money so it does make sense

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REJECT domination incoming

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#27]

KR def deserve 2 slots but JP??? like what how is that make sense??

JP because viewership and money.

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for korea 2 spots are already a lot

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And yeah, I'm not saying 3 isn't too much. I'm just saying KR talent is there and franchising is arguably saving the KR region from being bled dry.

true, anyways they need to have something outside of the franchise teams or some scenes will die

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#10]

WOHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR RIOT TO KILL OUR SCENE HERE IN SEA JUST LIKE CS POOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSS

They just make the game for Japanese and Korean not us LOL

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prxfanboy [#32]

true, anyways they need to have something outside of the franchise teams or some scenes will die

they need tier 2

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prxfanboy [#26]

I never said KR deserve only 1, but 3 is too much no matter what when there are only 3 for sea, india and oce? like wtf lol

KR has more viewership and playerbase then any country in SEA

its the truth

it also is the fastest growing region, doubling playerbase in a year

check twitch at like 8:00 pm KST and u will see valorant section is mostly KR and JP viewers

even the esports has potential to grow considering how casual the playerbase is rn

and also the most important part, the korean playerbase is more rich than SEA playerbase and will spend more money. look at diablo immortal, they made almost all their money from the US and Korea

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#10]

WOHOOOO CAN'T WAIT FOR RIOT TO KILL OUR SCENE HERE IN SEA JUST LIKE CS POOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSS

Ggwp time to play pubg mobile and mobile legends again ggwp

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KoreanOverlord [#35]

KR has more viewership and playerbase then any country in SEA

its the truth

it also is the fastest growing region, doubling playerbase in a year

check twitch at like 8:00 pm KST and u will see valorant section is mostly KR and JP viewers

even the esports has potential to grow considering how casual the playerbase is rn

and also the most important part, the korean playerbase is more rich than SEA playerbase and will spend more money. look at diablo immortal, they made almost all their money from the US and Korea

KR has more viewership then any country in SEA

????? source ?? just wanna confirm, no salty

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simurgh [#22]

I have a feeling that China will be counted as one region.

Lel

#39
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Kr players play for Japanese orgs
Why not Japan ?

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FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#16]

killing the most talented region PagMan

vouch

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prxfanboy [#15]

still just a single country, maybe JP 3 spots, but for korea 2 spots are already a lot until they prove that their teams are good enough other than drx or their scene is big enough. Otherwise, it's just unfair and gonna kill SEA. I wasnt even counting HK/TW as well since I thought they gonna be with China. Edit : and ye Vietnam havent show much but their first seed did beat seed 2 thailand this vct

"prove that their teams are good enough" dont act as if sea outside of prx has done anything. ur 2nd best team got diffed by 2 koreans who werent even considered tier 1 when they played in korea

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jimjam789 [#43]

"prove that their teams are good enough" dont act as if sea outside of prx has done anything. ur 2nd best team got diffed by 2 koreans who werent even considered tier 1 when they played in korea

Chill Koreanfanboy, why are you malding so hard kekw

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jimjam789 [#43]

"prove that their teams are good enough" dont act as if sea outside of prx has done anything. ur 2nd best team got diffed by 2 koreans who werent even considered tier 1 when they played in korea

bruh that match could have gone either way, by your logic that team diff zeta too so they must be > drx? and is 1 match with a team not even full koreans proving korea deserve 3 slot for a single country? Right now, Xerxia a full thailand team btw can beat any team in korea except for DRX and thats a fact. They still struggle in APAC qualifiers, there are teams can beat them 2 0 convincingly. You guys are good but not good enough to deserve 3 slot for a single country, this is not League. Dude is delusional LOL.

SEA at champions no prx, has 2 teams in playoffs even more than NA ( x10 and team secret ) when VS didnt get past group

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KoreanOverlord [#35]

KR has more viewership and playerbase then any country in SEA

its the truth

it also is the fastest growing region, doubling playerbase in a year

check twitch at like 8:00 pm KST and u will see valorant section is mostly KR and JP viewers

even the esports has potential to grow considering how casual the playerbase is rn

and also the most important part, the korean playerbase is more rich than SEA playerbase and will spend more money. look at diablo immortal, they made almost all their money from the US and Korea

BUT STILL ONLY PLACING 5TH IN INTERNATIONAL EVENTS LMAOOO. KOREA OVERRATED AF

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