I feel like without Optic, NA would be the weakest region. These "one hit wonder" (XSET and The Guard) teams would lose against literally any other region representative. Like, the way XSET are playing right now is such a troll. Watch ThinkingsMansValo to get a better idea of this $hit show.
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chemicqls [#3]EMEA is also a one team region, legit just fnatic
ehhh fpx did ok without suygestsu and guild aint bad at all either i feel
emea also has some stars like m3c and liquid not at the event
Marcock99 [#2]weakest region is korea no doubt
exactly, DRX is the only good team in Korea right now, we have to see if Damwon with this new team helps to increase the level of Korea
Ultimate6989 [#5]ehhh fpx did ok without suygestsu and guild aint bad at all either i feel
emea also has some stars like m3c and liquid not at the event
But none of em are on fanatic’s level, like NA also has xset, 100t, EG, Faze, nrg. Basically the same regions with fnatic and optic at the top of each
the number 1 NA seed is usually underwhelming, the number 1 seed group stage bye is quite stupid imo. the teams that fought hard in group stage usually does a lot better than the number 1 seed due to the huge bye (this is more of an NA problem but it happens).
the masters format needs to be reworked
Mohagany [#9]You could literally say the same about every other region?? Without LOUD brazil is nothing. Without KRU Latam is nothing. DRX,PRX etc. The "NA" only has 1 team argument is weak and overused
Put all top 10 NA teams (excluding Optic) in groups against LOUD, KRU, Guild and DRX none are making it out, IMO. Maybe you have a better perspective on it. LMK
chemicqls [#15]But none of em are on fanatic’s level, like NA also has xset, 100t, EG, Faze, nrg. Basically the same regions with fnatic and optic at the top of each
emea 3rd seed beat Optic
NA seed1 just got embarrassed by optic
if u're gonna be a fan, at least make a somewhat sound argument lol
Mohagany [#9]You could literally say the same about every other region?? Without LOUD brazil is nothing. Without KRU Latam is nothing. DRX,PRX etc. The "NA" only has 1 team argument is weak and overused
Levi was like two rounds off beating drx so prob not latam
Moiraine [#24]emea 3rd seed beat Optic
NA seed1 just got embarrassed by opticif u're gonna be a fan, at least make a somewhat sound argument lol
Emea couldn’t even get top 4 last tourney and it will happen again
ColdWKey [#23]Put all top 10 NA teams (excluding Optic) in groups against LOUD, KRU, Guild and DRX none are making it out, IMO. Maybe you have a better perspective on it. LMK
Put NA top 10 vs Persija or e-Xolos or Lazer or mibr or jadeite or maru and you'll see the difference.
Shashwat_Singh [#21]Still got worse placement then jp,apac last masters 🙃
loud bombed out in groups, i guess they arent even top 8 team in world by ur logic
jimjam789 [#28]loud bombed out in groups, i guess they arent even top 8 team in world by ur logic
Not rn imo a solid team but can’t say they are a confirm top 8
OkOkay [#16]we first need to see how xset does against other regions
They'll probably lose to Lev if they play like how they played today
Shashwat_Singh [#29]Not rn imo a solid team but can’t say they are a confirm top 8
yeah u think xset is better than loud since u value placements as a ranking of teams without regarding context. braindead
IceFoxx00 [#30]They'll probably lose to Lev if they play like how they played today
I believe XSET could win even though that's some serious hopium considering today’s awful performance. They have to stop isolating 3v1 situations and actually making it 3v1 and not 3 1v1's (that made me mad because they could’ve won Bind).
jimjam789 [#31]yeah u think xset is better than loud since u value placements as a ranking of teams without regarding context. braindead
Never said placement is all that matters you are making things are up by comparing a team who’s never played a international team vs loud lol by my original message i meant that even though drx is so good , against other asian teams against international teams they are not doing better than other asian teams (mostly prx in case) somehow always fk up
jimjam789 [#31]yeah u think xset is better than loud since u value placements as a ranking of teams without regarding context. braindead
As we say in Brazil:
Acabou com ele!
Moiraine [#24]emea 3rd seed beat Optic
NA seed1 just got embarrassed by opticif u're gonna be a fan, at least make a somewhat sound argument lol
1st of all, that's not how it works, a beating b and b beating c does not equal to a better than b. For example G2 beat zeta, zeta beat prx, and prx beat G2.
2nd of all, optic against Guild is clearly different than optic against xset. They start slow but become stronger and stronger by each game. That's how they got beaten by xerxia and guard and still got to 1st place iceland
Moiraine [#24]emea 3rd seed beat Optic
NA seed1 just got embarrassed by opticif u're gonna be a fan, at least make a somewhat sound argument lol
Xerxia beat optic in game 1 last masters. Optic slow starts are typical.
giantnutsack12345 [#17]DamLon lost to global esports LMFAO
GE lost to some unsalaried group of streamer friends (lmao) who now play for various kr teams (including damwon)
Vortexy [#38]GE lost to some unsalaried group of streamer friends (lmao) who now play for various kr teams (including damwon)
Don’t care the point is GE bad so how KR lose lul. No point in arguing that it’s not a one team region
giantnutsack12345 [#39]Don’t care the point is GE bad so how KR lose lul. No point in arguing that it’s not a one team region
This one team region narrative is unsupported and getting old. Kr's best international run wasn't even by drx and drx are consistently challenged within korea.
Vortexy [#40]This one team region narrative is unsupported and getting old. Kr's best international run wasn't even by drx and drx are consistently challenged within korea.
ok nah they ain't consistently challenged at least not recently. they went undefeated from iceland to copenhagen in their regional matches
justinlee0710 [#41]ok nah they ain't consistently challenged at least not recently. they went undefeated from iceland to copenhagen in their regional matches
well they are the best but other teams have the potential to beat them which has already happened
Vortexy [#42]well they are the best but other teams have the potential to beat them which has already happened
yea, lowkey damwon rn have the best chance since on sla2ers are dead rn lol. t3xture finally has help and they got lakia (who hasn't done anything) but he's still nasty
justinlee0710 [#43]yea, lowkey damwon rn have the best chance since on sla2ers are dead rn lol. t3xture finally has help and they got lakia (who hasn't done anything) but he's still nasty
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awful take. optic is the best team in the world right now until proven otherwise. they lose series in NA (2 since masters 1 against XSET and EG). meaning NA isnt necessarily a one team region as there’s other competing with optic for number one. most regions dont even have that competition for number one (br, apac, kr). and the regions that do (latam, japan, emea), have only shown us at best a top 4 finish internationally (obv excluding emea). na might not be the best region but its at least better than br apac and kr as theres competition within na, and the number one team worldwide is from na. na and emea are the two best regions with emea probably taking the cake for the more competitive region, but na might just have the better top team(s).
take ur trash takes back to reddit you bums.
IceFoxx00 [#30]They'll probably lose to Lev if they play like how they played today
Honestly hard agree. Taco will eat them alive
ColdWKey [#23]Put all top 10 NA teams (excluding Optic) in groups against LOUD, KRU, Guild and DRX none are making it out, IMO. Maybe you have a better perspective on it. LMK
The bottom end of the NA top 10 ( SEN/NRG/etc) would probably lose, but teams like Loud and KRU are totally dismantling their region and lose to Optic, who isn't completely unstoppable within NA. I think NA and EU are decently far ahead of other regions in terms of depth if their teams are playing at full strength and not going through a slump.
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