why are we just separating the two as if those two aren’t equally as important

if an igl is the best itw at micro, he is a top igl

his macro also isn’t weak 😭 as i mentioned, bonkar isn’t the one setting them up every round

so that makes him an igl, hence he is a good igl and one of the best in the world.

is bonkar picking up a mic in order to midround the entire team? is he the one precalling every setup after every round? hell, is he the one playing on ethan’s setup and ethan is just in the back chilling?

it is very evident that especially in his T-side calling, ethan has improved drastically since 2024 as a caller, and while some of it can be attributed to bonkar’s prep, that prep means nothing if you don’t have a good igl who can lead a team to execute it properly

greatest is meteor
best is mako

f0rsaken is not in that conversation.

😭😭😭😭😭😭

So you’re just guessing

There were many problems with that 2024 NRG team and while ethan’s calling was a part of it, it was by no means the whole picture

he has improved in every metric in 2025 up to now

so then why are we just ignoring the fact that ethan is the best itw at micro? he isn’t even that bad at macro either, you can see especially on attack he has a general good read on the map, but why do we just completely ignore his biggest strength when it comes to his igling ability?

it’s just disingenuous, and you bringing up names like saadhak and ange1 when they haven’t performed or had anywhere near the kind of igl ability they had years prior just tells me you’re more of a list watcher

you are just listing the names of old heads you know to be the “goat” igls because of their runs in 2022

explain to me what ange1 has done after 2022? what saadhak has done after 2023? i’ll give you boaster, but if all of these players are just that good at both macro and micro, then are the coaches all frauds? is mini not that good a coach, are bzka/frod not good coaches, is doombros not a good coach?

all of this is telling me that bonkar is BAR NONE the best coach of all time if he is able to carry a team to one, potentially two, titles while having an igl that supposedly can’t macro

2024 has really done some damage to people’s thinking

But when they dont (like their first prx game), they can get slapped out of their game

it’s even more disingenuous to base someone’s read off of their ability to read PRX of all teams, who are known to be the most unreadable, unpredictable mfs on the planet

i won’t deny the incredible impact bonkar has on the team, but ethan’s calling since stage 2 has been incredibly impressive and is part of the reason they went on this run to begin with, now he might be the only igl to go back to back champs and masters

True, which is why i like it, im just saying i understand why others don’t, BBL haven’t proven anything yet

FNS was the igl early/mid 25

also its just disingenuous to discredit the insane work ethan is doing now and what he was doing at the later end of 2025 simply because he was the igl of a dysfunctional 2024 roster (he was in my opinion the best player on that team)

Truth

this was mentioned in another thread but there’s a line between confidence and arrogance, and while i personally enjoy a bunch of young rookies basically saying fuck you and shit talking people even when losing (which imo is even more respectable than doing it while winning) i can understand why people find it kind of obnoxious because they haven’t yet proven they have the ice to back it up

you’re right brother! screw those pesky na fans always trash talking 😡 they’ll get what they deserve! #PRXWIN

or we are just god's gift to valorant

You now know how i felt at champs

if NRG were to lose out here i would be happy to see NS win

first you need to worry about YOUR father PRX

I'm ngl this is the funniest thing i've ever readd

oh yeah for sure

ya he is

brother he's yet to win anything at least wait until santiago is over

we did watch the game today right

i mean if they can keep up the form then it won't be a fluke but if they can't then it is

their run is almost singlehandedly powered by the fact dambi is allowed to do whatever he wants on neon and teams never found an answer for it. gives me heavy brawk odin vibes

pretty sure majority of them were sick

it is the epitome of everything wrong with this game and i fucking love it

evidently his impact is, in fact, not there

oh mon dieu

it's called being shameless bro wdym "go celebrate" this is a week old post

why are you replying to week old posts bruh

d4v41 is higher in the convo than him but no one will admit it

k1ra can do the absolute funniest thing tomorrow

verno is not all that as an igl brother

the bind pick was a troll, why not just go breeze

he is afraid ethan will be higher in the goat convo than tenz (he already is)

hehehehehehe

Well i suppose step 1 is delusion and it goes from there

for your sake, i sure hope so

i'm already having them

this team is special

26

v0r0n0k0 has nothing on you goat

Even better

We sent them to the lower bracket to destroy BBL

brother they let go of mindfreak and immediately won a tournament after being the biggest chokers of history

He doesn't need one

You'll be waiting a long time.

lost me at "stop overcooking"

lowkey sounds like your 9/11

FUCK i got baited FUCKKKK