im really confident when I say this, if EG were given a month or two extra they wouldve been a real international threat. it wasnt because of the team he played bad at times.

Since KC can't make champs now, do you guys think this team will stick together? Or split. I personally wouldn't mind either, I loved watching this team do so good in the beginning of the year and seeing new talent and improvement. I could see a world where N4RRATE goes back to NA, but i'm pretty sure he said himself he wants to become "that NA guy who dominates in europe". Even though they didn't qual for champs and their teamwork dipped, KC rn undoubtedly has some of the best players in the region overall.

man i miss keiko debut. he still is great, but his potential gone to waste this year on liquid.

true wo0t international debut is unmatched. i think if primmie was on a better team than "current" talon, he would have a chance to shine more. but who knows

IDC what anyone says primmie has had the best debut of all time.

i get what you mean, but im talking mainly about players who were "ranked players" in the past (ik demon1 doesnt consider himself). but just players who havent had experience prior to franchising.

yeah cant forget them either.

gov didnthave the best stats today, but his gameplay today was pretty good. same w ban. just consistency

gov didnthave the best stats today, but his gameplay today was pretty good. same w ban. just consistency

Ever since franchising has started, "breakthrough" new players have been superstars. demon1, something, karon, and now primmie. i wonder who could be next

go spain

apoth?? are you smoking ?

yeah i completely get what you’re saying. but currently the igl meta isn’t favoring fns or boaster sadly :(. hopefully they can come back from this slump

even if their strats are good it’s undeniable their solo performances are the biggest issue right now. we all know s0m is the goat mechanically but isn’t playing like himself. fns has worse aim than boaster, victor and crashies just aren’t good anymore. the only two solid players on NRG are ethan and s0m. yes brain is important, but we’re in a meta where the best teams have 4/5 5/5 aimers and no matter how much of an FNS masterclass is seen, if they can’t shoot they can’t win. it’s the simple truth. valorant is changing. it’s not 2022 or 2023. their strats may be good and i don’t doubt it, but the reason they r ass is bc of lack of firepower and individual stepping up.

the worst game of his life compared to the hundreds of games where he’s dropped 30+ kills single handedly carrying his team.

i get that you’re still holding on to the Optic core, but it’s just done for. crashies and vic haven’t shown world class talent since 2022. i really want to give fns another chance, but he’s putting up worse numbers than boaster. they’re just simply not world class anymore and there are abiht 5 players that are better than them at each of their respective roles currently

mans is blind then i guess

blud said chronicle and sacy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

redgar
redgar
redgar
redgar
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wrap it up nrg are ass rn (as an nrg fan). even if they do make playoffs they’re getting knocked out and even if they do qual for champs they’re getting stomped by TH GENG PRX without a doubt. they just need to look for a new roster for 2025

it depends bc they play diff roles. yes ethan plays initiator. too, but he plays support whilst n4rrate plays scan.

also the only reason Ethan was bad on IGL was because they didn’t have enough time to prep since it was completely new to him. They 100% won’t qualify for champs so starting now and during off season, training as igl could give him a shot. if not they could just find a diff igl.

then they wouldn’t need FNS. potter has done perfectly fine herself.

After recent games, performances, and my prev vlr thread here

i think it’s time after 2024 for NRG to have a complete restart. it’s clear FNS isn’t built for competitive mechanically anymore, chet is a fraud, and victor and crashies are the most overrated duo in the world.

FNS should be moved to an assistant coach or analyst role.

also unless EG win champs this year, potter will probably get bought out or join a different team as will in which NRG could acquire.

demon1 must come back no matter what. he is the only player in AMERICAS besides aspas who has the aspas texture woot carry potential and with potter on the new NRG roster they can utilize him well.

it’s clear demon1 isn’t suitable as the only duelist so NRG would have to bring on a “main duelist”. the top choices would be aspas or jawgemo. aspas has english experience now with LEV and will be just fine no matter the language barrier because it’s aspas at the end of the day. both insane pure duelists who are world class players.

next they would need a full time initiator player, someone who can actually shoot back. by the end of 2024 some top initiator players from NA i can think of are N4RRATE or verno. both insane young talent who have firepower, clutch potential, and are dominant.

i would say they should keep s0m as well. he is one of americas’ greatest shooters and mechanically gifted individuals. he can flex on anything and main smokes. what else could you want from a player??

and finally an IGL who can shoot back. whether it’s someone from T2, Valyn if G2 doesn’t work, maybe ethan couldddd try it again with more time (off season). just someone who can shoot back.

so ultimately a potential NRG 2025 roster would be

Coaches: Potter + FNS
Primary Duelist: Aspas or Jawgemo
Secondary Duelist / Flex: Demon1
Initiator/Flex: N4RRATE or Verno
Smokes: s0m
IGL: Ethan or Valyn (if valyn s0m can be perma flex)

this roster would be a true super team without a doubt and certainly has no weak link. did i cook?

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n4rrate
demon1
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ethan

potter

def agree, this isn’t the c0m we know last year. the best initiator in the world c0m. this goes to show how perfect EG was for each other. i miss them man

they should’ve kept sayf and rebuilt around Sayf and nAts.
in 2024 if they got Sayf, nAts, anyone but redgar, n4rrate, and sh1n this team would’ve won a championship already

100t got lucky split 1. everything aligned and they played against a washed AMERICAS. asuna had a few life games as well as cryo. bang finally didn’t go negative. boostio and eeiu are the only solid players

i know verno is also the goat, if you look at my prev posts in the past i glaze this man more than i glaze n4rrate. it’s just verno is on a different tier as well as woot

let me rephrase 100T were never good and as long as they have Assuna and B0ng who are the most overrated players on earth with a cryo who hibernates 7/10 games they play, they will always be frauds. also geng played all games this year and played groups too so 100T complaining abt burnout is insane

loud as long as they have pancada and no superstar duelist is done for

i agree

we know termi is shit

yes. yes. yes.

kang kang a bit washed and cryo is inconsistent but they’re crazy good at peaks, but n4rrate always good

true, but everyone keeps forgetting of how good they r bc of recency bias

You guys sleep too much on jawg and potter

apoth arguable, he just hasn’t been playing himself lately.

Boo, N4RRATE, Texture, bugha

The most skillful player to ever touch this game second to Aspas

brodie said n4rrate cryo and kangkang are average

man you didn’t have to remind me. 😭

tenz
verno
s0m
n4rrate
verno

idc who’s igl or what the roles are, this roster would win everything

despite drx closing out strong today, they still have so much to work on. BeYN and Foxy9 were arguably DRX’s best split 1 players besides MaKo and they now look like a bottom half americas player. Also buzz is still too inconsistent, but when he is on fire he is great. they need to find something fast

flashback

100T were never good, biggest fraud team in the world. Any team with Asuna will fail.

well even so geng played every single match this year and 100T didn’t even qual for madrid and skipped groups in shanghai

not rly bc geng played the most game in the world and still won and is still doing good

Am i the only person who kinda just knew from the start 100T weren’t anything crazy or international winning even at their “peak”? Like yeah they won americas, but they were never incredible, it was just usually a Cryo 30K or asuna playing a life game.

edit: their cracks have beeen showing crazy during split 2

hell no, apoth > today