How did EG have the unanimous easiest path? Fnatic - Zeta, BilliBilli, Loud, FUT, DRX. PRX - KRU, EDG, FUT, LOUD. I dont understand what people are thinking on this site sometimes

And here come the personal insults when you disagree with me. I either take your OPINION for fact, or you act like a petulant child. Are you suggesting Navi or Liquid would have made it out of group A instead of PRX or EDG? And you call me delusional. Wake up

EG - FPX, FUT in group. FUT > Navi. FUT > Liquid. FPX < Navi. FPX < Liquid. EG - EDG, DRX now PRX in playoffs. Only difference here is that EG hasn't played FNATIC in playoffs. Part of that is because they didn't lose like Loud did. Obviously a lower bracket run is harder than an upper bracket run. This is obviously too close to home for you as you cant remove yourself emotionally from this

Remove Giants or KRU from Group A and add either Liquid or Navi and nothing changes. They both probably do worse, in fact

No team has had an exceptionally hard path thus far. That's my point. Was Louds path the "hardest"? Probably (I think at this point its between them and EG and both have an argument). Does that mean it was objectively hard and something that's worth all these threads? No chance. They've beat two top 50% teams and two bottom 50% teams (in the tournament)

Liquid and Navi are both not good. This narrative makes no sense to me. The only team Navi beat in champions was liquid. Other than that, both teams went winless. Liquid didn't even win a map

They sure didn't play like it

How is saying Less is not the best player in the world "underestimating Less this much"?

Link the report, than. I don't see any thing mentioning that. I want a legit financial statement, not some comment from someone affiliated with the org. Also, imagine thinking having a negative net burn rate means a company is going to fail. I could name you 10+ companies on S&P500 worth over 25 billion dollars which lose money year-over-year. Its not uncommon, and people who know what they're talking about are aware of this. You clearly don't

EU geography skills

Has Giants released financial statements? I'm pretty sure they haven't, so you're obviously just pulling that out of your ass

Didn't Jamppi just finish an elimination match in a major with a .5 rating and 4FK vs 10FD? Doesn't seem too good to me

Crazy because he still had a higher rating than nAts on that map. Sub 100 ADR on split defense. I did watch the game - did you? To suggest that nAts didn't play a large role in his teams loss today is laughable

Nats had a .7 rating across the series 2 FK vs 4FD. Only him and Jamppi were negative in that regard. But sure, it was his teams fault. Wake up

I still have 0 clue what your criteria for a minor vs major region is... Whatever... We'll leave it at that, I guess

Asking where a teams accomplishments are is dogging them? He was dogging APAC when he asked how many trophies it has... They didn't participate in LCQ (which EMA had two spots for) because their duelist (Twisten) passed away

What constitutes minor vs major region if not population size? Riot guarantees each region a certain number of teams each year and a certain number of slots in international tournaments, so its obviously not an exposure thing

Dogging a team for not making it out of LCQ (they didn't even participate) because of the death of a player is a pretty shitty thing to do, no?

APAC has 4.3 billion people. Only thing minor about your region is its accomplishments

I think you're too far gone, but Ill give this a shot anyways. Valorant IS an adolescent game. So are ALL sports. Do people get paid to play them because we like watching them? Sure. Does that mean we should threaten taking players families hostage when they taunt other players? I think the answer is obvious. You need to take this GAME less seriously. Also, to suggest shooting bodies breaks "fair play" is the most asinine argument I've ever seen. Where in the rulebook does it mention that its against the rules to shoot bodies? Also, CS didn't remove crouching to prevent tbagging LOL. It was because people were abusing the mechanic to get kills from behind cover. Valorant, by nature, is not serious - learn to take it that way

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you high?

Claims to know what an entire region thinks. Accuses other people of being schizophrenic. We call that projection

Why are you getting so upset? What he said was obviously hyperbolic, but the sentiment is true. USA has a lot more money than the entirety of Europe while having less than half the population. And if your point was only that what he said was childish, you wouldn't have tried to flex on him with your nationality. Europeans have the most fragile egos I've ever seen. Get over it. If were talking $ Europe doesn't have shit on USA. Find something else to go on about

Even if the data on that site wasn't way off (which it is), trying to prove USA has less money than Europe by pointing to the average salary of a city-state, then comparing it to the average salary of the country with the third most people on the planet makes 0 sense. California alone has a higher GDP than every country in Europe. Europe's combined GDP is $6 trillion less than USA

San Francisco's GDP per capita is 290K... You really thought San Francisco's GDP was less than a million dollars???

Also, San Francisco has a GDP of ~$290k with a population 21.5x that of Monaco

38,000 people live in Monaco, which is a city state. Is the point that the average person in a city-state with 38,000 people has a higher GDP than a country with 300 million? Please explain how I'm being ignorant - seems to me like you and howling are

You literally said "I live in Monaco, wana compare salary". I'm guessing you're one of the people falling under working class, than? Also, I was looking at completely wrong numbers, and the average salary of Mondao (from what I can tell - seeing a lot of conflicting data) is WAY less than I initially thought... Just some food for thought - Monaco is home to ~12,260 millionaires whereas California is home to 1.14 million. Monaco is also home to 3 billionaires (with a total net worth of ~12.1B), whereas Cali is home to over 170 (Larry page alone is worth 9x more than all 3 billionaires in Monaco alone). REALLY not sure what point you're trying to make here

There are 6 cities in California alone with a higher median salary than Monaco. Not really seeing your point

So now you're trying to tell me an IGL should have better stats than a star duelist? Lets keep moving the goalposts I guess. Apparently .99 rating on your best agent (arguably the only agent you're good at) is good enough for a top 2 team in your region? Every one of your comments in this comment chain has multiple downfrags - there's a reason. The only one here arguing to argue is you. Read the room. Only thing sinking in here is that you lack critical thinking skills

Your justification for cNed not being a paycheck stealer is that he is a champion (in 2021). Applying that same logic to another player shows how flawed it is. Are you saying Stellars performance should be evaluated based on his play in 2023 and cNed based on his performance in 2021? And you follow this up by saying ONLY cNed gets that treatment? Seems disingenuous. Maybe you're just a fan? Also, cNed has not been one of the best players in his role in a LONG time - where in the world are you getting that from? He's like the 4th best Jett in EMEA and there are AT LEAST 3 other Jetts in other regions that I'd take over him (probably more if we're being honest). And even don't get me started about his Yoru play

So all 5 members of the 2021 winning Acend team should be in T1 based on their achievement 2 years ago? Surely a former pro player (not arguing in bad faith) would realize how illogical that is. Zeek, starxo, BONECOLD - all near the bottom of the table for the season in terms of individual performance. What a terrible take

I aint reading allat. Go touch some grass brother

cNed sub 1.0 rating on Jett during end of season + playoffs + Masters and Stellar is the paycheck stealer? OK....

You following him around like a lost puppy or what?

Treated as a domestic player in Americas league because he is a domestic player. NT maybe next time. Always the FNC flairs...

Genuine question - what have you seen from fnatic which suggests they would be able to bounce back once losing their momentum? Other than a 3-1 loss to liquid, the last time they were tested was when they almost got reverse swept in lock in, and before that had a bit of a reputation of choking

Demon1 has already said that he was the one who reached out to EG. Also, DSGs collapse had nothing to do with Demon1 not joining

Psychoanalysis is important when performed by someone qualified to psychoanalyze. 99.9999% of this site does not meet such qualification. Leave the sport psychology to sport psychologists

How does Saya playing well in one map vs Yay prove he's the best itw when he's in form? Was Yay in form that game? Looks like he went negative in 2/3 maps in a series his team won, so I'd think not. Also, that was from over a year ago AND was pre dash nerf...

Obesity rate in Canada as of 2018: 63.1% (from statistics Canada). Obesity rate in EU as of 2022: 59% (from WHO). Europeans displaying once again that they have no idea what they're talking about. Edit: overweight, not obesity

Rent free

Constantly moving the goal posts. Yawn

cNed hasn't won shit in 2 years. I guess we should add Tenz to the list as well? This a 2023 list, not 2021. I'm losing braincells responding to you. I guess the real key here is looking at your comment history where you're clearly Turkish. Bias is strong with the braindead EMEAs

S0m:
1.13 R
204.7 ACS
1.13 K/D

Has ONLY played controller. Why is it that EMEA constantly shows they have no idea what they're talking about?

In a domestic tournament? Seems more likely that its because hes Russian

What T1 tournament has Something participated in that hes proved himself to be a top 20 played but S0m and Demon1 haven't? Just admit your biased and only watch EMEA

Marved, Victor, Demon1, Leaf, S0m. Just admit you don't watch pro Val

Loud didn't add 2 new players mid-season. Also, Aspas has played every map over the last 60 days as Jett. Leaf hasn't even played half his maps as Jett. Where's the stretch?

Exact same thing can be said about the fast start for SA teams. Fact of the matter is that 3 of the top 6 teams are NA. Classic cope