NV is not throwing lol. SEN just had better coordination and aim, as simple as that. Throws are what TSM usually do.

Yeah, like don't get me wrong, he is a great player and everything but people put him in the top 5 duelists in NA and I am like "what?"

For people saying that I was wrong about NV Victor being overrated, try to prove me wrong again.

Im not even a TenZ fan. I am only speaking from facts and past performances.

TenZ not good on Jett? He is the best Jett NA. Did you say that just because his KDA wasnt great today? Did you forget iceland?

12 rounds down and yay only got 1 kill on tenz while tenz killed him more than 5 times 1 vs 1. Not sure what diff u talking about

TSM looks good even with bang and Levi playing like shit today. I think TSM is the only team that got close to getting an upset. Rise got 1 map but got destroyed on the other 2. TSM the only one to get more than 7 rounds in every map.

TSM is gonna do well in lowers. I think Levi and Bang mental is gonna get better and TSM showed that they can beat tier 1 teams.

Breeze is always hard to defend. I have watched multiple EU breeze matches and its always masacre on attack side.

True, the reads on TSM was on point and TSM team coordination was kinda whacky so 13-7 deserved.

Pure duelists like yay will fit seamlessly just like TenZ did with SEN. All they have to do is listen to the IGL and frag. No play set ups like controller or support player.

uhhh...Hiko is indeed baiting. Every Sova has a similar playstyle of playing in the back for darts and shit. But Hiko's "playing in the back" is worse than every single Sova that you can name in the scene. There is a reason why he is called the "Master Baiter".

I guess Esports doesn't have this kind of rule. But, sports prohibits this sort of trades. Imagine Lebron joining the Suns right after the Lakers losing to them. It would be pretty unfair right?

I change my whole prediction with that yay addition. Today is a bad day for TSM fans man...Riot should not allow this kind of trade close to a tourney.

Now, the only thing to worry about is whether yay can join the team seamlessly. cuz mummAy has been playing with the team for a long time. yay can provide instant fire power tho so let's see how it goes. This is just a feels bad for TSM now. The only thing that TSM had over NV is the op and Jett diff. Now is 50/50 between the Jetts and then NV is just better with the rest of the roster.

lmao I have the same thing

Victor IS NOT the problem on NV lol. I don't know why people hype Victor so much, he ALWAYS chickens out against Top teams like 100T/SEN/XSET/old V1 or in clutch situations. Go look at the stats before you start downvoting :). And to people saying "stats is not everything", please think about what role he has on the team.

LG was trolling for seeding. However, I still think TSM can beat LG 2-0 at best and 2-1 OT maps at worst.

If only it began now...I am literally counting the days...

Lol, Mixwell is gonna make G2 look like TL before Iceland. Embarrassing themselves by saying that and then out in the second round or some shit.
Oh never mind, not sure if they can even qualify for Berlin lol.

Whoever wins this game is gonna have an easier bracket run after getting beat by SEN. So it's definitely worth it.

And also to educate you a bit, even if we lose to NV or SEN in the upper bracket, we are gonna have the easier teams in the lower bracket. Teams going easy in upper bracket will face the harder teams in the lower bracket. So it's the same shit if you want to qualify and place top 3.

It doesn't matter who we play because we going to Berlin.

I feel like Riot should fine both teams for that shit...

Shit backfired lol. Dumbasses

I knew this shit was gonna happen the moment I saw Faze with that comp. To be fair, Faze is the one trolling more. TSM is more like following it but also making sure they are winning.

Winner vs Envy. Loser vs 100T. So, I think the trolling is just temporary because Wardell said he wants to play against Envy. They still need to win in order to that.

not fun

I know both teams have been winning but the devs are definitely trolling with the Rankings. How is Faze and TSM 2nd and 3rd respectively?

I don't think that's Bang's job. Wardell will stop his ass.

As someone who watched TSM games since First Strike and watched them hit rock bottom, this definitely feels surreal. Can't believe that Leviathan changed the team's chemistry so much.

uhh...Wardell Is Gonna Do A Historic Jett Diff To BabyBay.

TSM 3 - 0 Faze

Babybay said he wanted to meet TSM in the grand finals. It seems like they are actually going to lol.

Mmm, I wouldn't over praise their bracket run so far. There is still a long ass way to go to qualify for Berlin. Also, the things you saw today happened under no pressure cuz they already qualified, put some pressure on any teams and you will see way more mistakes happen, especially TSM.

yeap. winning streaks boost confidence but also their ego. hope they find the balance.

Although they lost to XSET, I think 100T can bounce back and win.

Yeap, they will make it to Berlin. I am predicting their whole bracket run lol.

TSM 1 - 2 100T

TSM 2 - 1 Envy
Edit: NVM, I actually want NV to qualify. They just look way better and more versatile to represent NA.

TSM 2 - 1 XSET

TSM 2 - 0 Rise/Faze

TSM 1 - 2 Envy

I wanna say TSM 2 - 1 Envy, but they know so much about each other that I am not sure how it will go. I am taking the safer bet since NV has been the top running team for awhile now.

Once teams already qualified, the pressure is gone. The games feel kinda boring ngl. I will just wait for the Challenger Playoffs.

Not aging well huh? I am telling you that Fnatic is more versatile. They can still lose but definitely not like you said like if they didn't have a chance.
Edit: Well, mine didn't age well either. But GGs.

Eh...You know this is Europe Challengers right? So...Why is it wrong to say which team is a better representative for the Europe Region? They are essentially representing EU in the EMEA playoffs. I don't see anything wrong in that.

same thing was said in iceland lol. but oh well, keep the copium going.

Say whatever you want but TL is gonna get clapped on the international stage, Fnatic would be better at representing EU.

There is no saving strats at this point lol. They played their all in almost all the maps.

I think this is not true. I think winning but doing it the hard way is the best thing. They went through multiple 80+ rounds matches this qualifier and that made them so much better. I think another 80+ rounds with LG will only make them better so I am not sure about losing cuz that kinda sets a mindset of not being able to win.