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Just because YAY joined them they have not became the best team in the world yeah yay is best chamber/duel but that doesn't make C9 best team yeah they have very talented A tier players but yay was on optic previously and we all know that team was goated because all the players Are S tier. But this team feels ultimately overrated.(no hate to any c9 players I love em but just saying what I was seeing on the community response to C9 roster)( I hecking love vanity and yay)

the old one of course, no way they get visas in time for sheydos/trexx with the russia situation

not darker on smokes?

congratuation lev for winning americas league 2023 without even starting!

kru and lev are saving the kru vs lev match for the kickoff i guess

no?? que yo sepa era su fuerte solo que el equipo le pidio tantos cambios que este año solo jugo sova contra liquid a inicios de año y el sova lo cambiaron a delz1k/klaus

might be keznit

HoF??? bro its been 2 years of competitive we dont even have 5 years and you are talking about hall of fame?

ive been watching ice for an hour what am i doing with my life?

still playing fade i guess the only change is the second initiator/flex is now nozwerr maybe he plays breach/sova most maps

tenz twitch mods after changing the !sens and !mousepad command for 1821381982389124914th time in the same stream: 💀

nah he is an awesome aimer, but he cant dash/double satchel/ hit a raze ult/ do good entrys with neon double wall and many examples that are actually pretty easy to do for most tier1 / tier 2 and most important he isnt good on op in comparison to other players.

lev has mazino kingg and nzr but on NA c9 is the most flexible roster without a doubt, maybe NRG is close enough with som victor and ardiis but we´ll see.

i think marved isnt playing ascension next year at least at the start so the best option is to keep aproto or get Moose imo.

shyy is a better fade/skye and nzr its more of a sova/breach roles are fine imo

maybe he is just going to LA to learn proper english and then lev will have a cracked raze to sell, and a cracked 6th man in case anyone isnt able to play also keznit wins from this since he will grind on NA servers and might play NA rankeds and against NA teams.

buddy watch the roles on most maps dephh plays astra ayrin plays viper and omen and also bcj does, wtf are you talking about?

exactly what xset did whats the matter with it?

not enough ngl

id rather get baddyG or Falltw than Kpzet but good roster nonetheless

kingg and keznit are both top 10 razes of the world and im pretty sure keznit diffed kingg in like 7/8 times they played against but ok

i want to see if koi is going to put a fight since pretty much all their roster has underrated players

because he is already a full time streamer, even when he played vct he streamed after and before the matches, that mfer has a stream addiction.

he is wrong about rest of latam everytime bro

thanks for the info i hope they really remove smokers from the game

smokers dont have to comm that much do they? did zombs commed a lot?

mazino plays brim nzr plays omen kingg plays viper and all good since they already flexed that agents well on the past.

english, spanish, omw to learn portuguese and japanese

nothing against him tbh just trying to point out you dont need to be a college english teacher from harvard to say "3 on site, 1 on cubie, lets rotate guys they are planting b"

actually i learnt english only typing on youtube comments years ago, and people think learning a new lenguage its like learning quantum physics LMAO you can learn languages in a lot of places specially english so it is not a excuse for not letting him on a tier 1 team on NA/emea like ardiis speaks english like he has a potato on his mouth and he joined NRG

buddy has +300 acs on flex agents in a lot of maps but people still underrate him lmao

huh? you only said "yea dude" how is that supposed to be bad engl... hold up

david p and ambi on prime giants? lmao one with monsterr was def better imo

you have to be an NPC bro there is no way you really mean what you wrote

fyi he was the second best on guild and the team was literally 4vs5 ing emea and made playoffs on masters by playing the same way

btw he has the same stats as tier 1 duelists playing support initiators (breach/sova/fade on +200 acs on masters and lcq instead of typical flex kay o and skye which are the aggresive ones)

lev,drx,c9(if they dont choke), nrg, NAVI,TL
able to win 1 map or put up a fight: zeta,t1,Loud,100T,sen,KOi,VIT

PRX Jingg and Forsaken supremacy duo

melser joining kru tho but i dont think the roster will have the same level as the past one

yay abuses chamber: GOAT
taco abuses chamber: OVERRATED
NA moment

9z won hours ago LMAO

why comparing him to SKgoatssi?

+noxxy on good mood and + kappa and they win champions ngl

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noxxy harbor on a good mood >>>>> yay chamber

boom -flipz and - tehbotol are on a downgrade for real and bleed wasnt that bad and now adding the best player of the 2nd best team i dont think it will be easy to beat them so im pretty sure enigma gaming will win ascension

he just needs discipline and he joined the most disciplinate valo team of asia and probably of the world so he will be fine.

he is the best player available for smokes on the region and imo he is worth the price since he was top fragging against international or apac teams with controllers, even on astra which is nerfed af

so who plays smokes on talon then??? will it be like t1?

yeah i edited it so i dont mess up the thread your welcome