idkbro
Country: Vatican City State
Registered: May 13, 2021
Last post: March 21, 2024 at 11:51 AM
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I dont play or watch valorant much these days but I used to watch some GC from time to time, specially the World Championship, in my honest opinion they arent even good enough for t3. G2 Gozen won Worlds and from my experience in EU ranked where I queued against some of them in the past and also from other teams they arent good enough even compared to t4-5 level while they were the world champions, in NA where there are so few slots in franchise it makes it even more difficult. I would be surprised if there is even 1 GC player who is good enough for t3, I dont follow the scene so if u have any names I am all ears

posted 6 months ago

Cmon lets be honest, the level of skill between GC and chinese teams isnt even comparable, even if they werent that good as a team you could see they were insanely talented individuals. I genuily dont think there is a single GC player that is good enough for anything other than t3 other than transgender male to female players who used to play in male teams before that. I think the next step for GC players is to start competing and giving importance to the open circuit but this is more of an ideal than a realistic prospect, they get paid really good salaries in GC and the prize pool for tournaments is great, in the end this is a job and you need to get paid, as long as there is 0 incentives for them to try to make it in the open circuit the situation wont change, anyone that has competed in valorant at a decent knows how many really strong players are even at t5 that are grinding like crazy everyday with the hopes to make it, the competition is fierce in sports and if u wanna make it u need to take the hard route instead of the comfortable route which is GC, if there are female players out there who choose the hard route they have utmost respect

posted 6 months ago

so far no game changer player has shown that they cant perform in t2 or even t3, what makes u think experience will be enough to make players who arent even good enough for t2 ready for world class level of competition? competition is fierce and there is 10 times more male players grinding t2-t3 since 2+ years ago, there is objectively 0 reasons to believe what you are saying will happen

posted 6 months ago

since gender doesnt matter then by this logic there are a 100+ players worth of a trial in NA alone, for obvious reasons this is not viable so you need to be efficient and GC players are objectively not good enough and that is clear to anyone with a working brain, those who say the opposite are just being dishonest tbh

posted 6 months ago

I understand but lets be honest, regardless of the reason its not like they deserve trials anyway, they dont have the skill and they only compete in a closed circuit of a really low standard, would be kinda unfair for those proving themselves in the open circuit imo

posted 6 months ago

if we consider challengers as t2 then I dont there is a single one who is good enough for it, also 90%+ of them arent even good enough for t3 imo

posted 6 months ago

are GC players good enough to be in franchise or at the very least get trials?

lets see which users know ball

posted 6 months ago

This is only a good move if you are a Fnatic fan

posted 6 months ago

people like who call others incels are the real incels me thinks

posted 7 months ago

flag checks out

posted 7 months ago

See the bright side, last match for botcas in tier1, thats a big W in my books

posted 7 months ago
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posted 7 months ago

yes, you are crazy indeed

posted 7 months ago

What was he expecting? T2 scene is always shit in franchised esports, if you want t2 to be sustainable you need an open system and to allow revenue from betting sites and shit like that, even t1 scene is unsustainable in basically all esports and esports as a whole is just unsustainable, most of us dont contribute financially to the esports we watch or orgs we like in any form, we basically enjoy the product for free on twitch and thats it, very hard to make money this way

posted 7 months ago

Leo was a cs pro

posted 8 months ago

lmao

posted 8 months ago

tbh he wasnt insane with FPX, he was a good player but compared he wasnt incredible either, meta favoured him a lot too

posted 8 months ago

you really have a terrible sense of humour wtf, npc vibes from u ngl

posted 8 months ago

idk m8 I havent watched much valorant apart from some of the matches at masters this year but any decent IGL should be enough, when the players are this much better any decent igl is enough but tbh Boaster has improved on his weaknesses so he is fine

posted 8 months ago

if u think u are funny then sorry but you are in for a surprise

posted 8 months ago

that wasnt the only post I made at the time, I made like hundreds of them, you can search them if u want but I dont really feel like doing one again and honestly I just dont care about valorant that much anymore

posted 8 months ago

in israel!

posted 8 months ago

I was right on what their issues were at the time, DRX had similar issues and didnt fix them but Boaster did. If I could predict the future with 100% accuracy I wouldnt be talking to you rn

posted 8 months ago

Just so you idiots stop commenting after you read the tweet from that Cojo moron, I obviously cant predict the future otherwise I wouldnt be talking to you guys on a valorant forum. Fnatic had similar issues to DRX in their system/calling style ever since their creation, Mini talks about this in a Fnatic vlog from Egypt in the offseason and it is common knowledge to anyone that knows a bit of valorant. Boaster/Mini fixed this so props to them, on the other hand DRX didnt and are now on a massive slump as it was expected, different sides of the coin. Props to Boaster for fixing this but there is still work to be done in that area, go watch Fnatic on bind and u will understand what I mean. Now that I have given props to Boaster/Mini I must also say that this is an illegal lineup, they have the best player in every role and its not even close, on top of that they are also really smart players. Like in every team sport, player quality matters, I think that this team would have been the best with any good IGL but good job either way. I was too much of a hater ngl bu if you asked Boaster/Mini they would agree with me in what those issues were.

Most of u are just a bunch of casual fanboys so I dont expect u to understand valorant at a decent level so personally its just funny to see a bunch of idiots to come laugh after a tweet by another idiot without providing any value to the conversation from a strategic point of view while the actual two guys I critized admitted this was an issue and worked on it

posted 8 months ago

yeah this superteam would have won everything with any capable igl but I have to give credit where its due, Boaster/mini improved and fixed the structural issues their style had so props to them

posted 8 months ago

Maybe but thats the thing, if he is getting punished early in the match then he usually just keeps forcing it, also its harder to heat up if he just loses awareness and his decision making suffers. Maybe he gets too distracted hyping up but I think its probably just a composure issue, some of the things I see Derke doing in these type of matches make no sense, its just stupid mistakes that he would never do under normal conditions

posted 9 months ago

Really? I just remember everyone being hyped af

posted 9 months ago

Am I the only that has noticed how badly he plays in high pressure matches? Its like watching a different player, its like his awareness and decision making disappear all of a sudden, it has been like this all of his career, I wonder if this is something they are trying to work on with Derke since its clearly just a composure issue and not that he lacks those skills

posted 9 months ago

Always shows up in the high pressure matches unlike Derke, I am concerned by how worse he is under pressure... Its like a videogame and someone used an ability to reduce his decision making, awareness and firepower stats

posted 9 months ago

I dont like commenting on coaches since its impossible to tell how much they do from the outside, my only criticsm for him atm is that he lacks the personality but that isnt as big of an issue. I wasnt a fan of him and Boaster last year because of the issues with Fnatic playstyle at a structural level but they have improved at it (mainly Boaster) and Mini knew this was a problem last year so I appreciate that he recognized the problem and fixed it

posted 9 months ago

I hope but looks difficult, I was very dissapointed by what I saw from FUT/NaVi/Liquid, the level they showed was really low and this has kinda been a thing for a while with EMEA teams. I feel like we got good players but the level of teams is bad, some of the reasons imo are:

  • T2 is in shambles, the regional leagues lowered the level of the t2 way too much, its hard for teams to improve when they have to scrim some really really bad teams.
  • Bad coaches and IGLs and overall just bad ways of working and ideas
posted 9 months ago

sure but still worrying how shit the other teams are

posted 9 months ago

https://twitter.com/ValorINTEL/status/1670889853897043976 this region downfall is incredible, she isnt wrong too

posted 9 months ago

Only hero plays, we play the worst valorant atm, this region is so finished besides Fnatic. Let the fact that we were only able to beat chinese teams sink in

posted 9 months ago

Its not like they will be used, at least not at any decent level, if you are good at the game you will play in central european servers since thats where everyone plays. Also it will be the same as with all these local servers, natives will start avoiding them because they think those from their country are idiots or bad

posted 9 months ago

I think Twisten was better than Cned and had more potential, as you said these are all top players in the region and even in the world but there is tiers to this shit. A comparison would be: While Fnatic has Messi, NaVi has Robben. All top players but Fnatic ones are better, also:

  • Fnatic has smarter players that can think for themselves.
  • NaVi apart from Ange1 and Shao the other 3 are insane individually but they arent the smartest players
  • NaVi roles dont even make sense, Cned can only play 1 agent properly and Zyppan isnt that comfortable outside of Raze/Kayo.

So what I would do is:
1- Replace Cned and Zyppan and get a duelist that can play both Jett/Raze and a top flex player. Before there was Twisten but now he passed away so this option becomes harder since there arent many european duelists that can play both jett/raze at the level NaVi needs
2- Replace Cned and get a good jett player but who can also flex and Zyppan goes back to Raze/Kayo/Flex roles.

Also I hope they stop experimenting so much with roles and comps, they do some really weird shit

posted 9 months ago

Fnatic have better and smarter players, NAVI has insane players but Fnatic are at least a tier above and tbh Cned doesnt make much sense to me, I wanted NAVI to get Twisten before this season but :(

posted 9 months ago

Individually he is terrible no doubt but for an IGL standard he is good enough, he also plays the least impactful roles so he is fine

posted 9 months ago

I have always been his biggest critic and hated the style Fnatic played in the past since I think they were gimmicks merchants like DRX and they were easy to beat after 1-2 matches once they showed all their strats since they had little adaptation and they werent able to play off of fundamentals and they just knew how to play according to their pregame plan, in the Fnatic vlog in the off season they talked about how they were trying to improve this, massive respect for Boaster for improving on this, I have critized him like no1 else in this forum but respect to him for improving on his weaknesses and working hard unlike all these other paycheck stealers we have in europe pretending to be coaches or igls

posted 9 months ago

we are shit but at least we have Fnatic lolllllllllll

posted 9 months ago

looks hard tbh, the ideas are just so so bad, I liked their haven against EDG but other than that it has been terrible and they just rely on hero plays, gonna be hard against Fnatic or EG, they can make a run in lowers but unless they change things its going to be hard for them to challenge those two

posted 9 months ago

https://www.vlr.gg/227657/congrats-to-liquid-management nvm, u guys are ass, only hero plays

posted 9 months ago

LOL as I said, literally only solo plays as a solution, wtf is that setup

posted 9 months ago

It feels like that sometimes with fnatic but not nearly as much as other teams, fnatic have good ideas for the most part. I havent watched valorant enough to judge since Lock In but Fnatic in Lock In were just defaulting without really doing anything and then they had really good executes and ofc insane firepower

posted 9 months ago

I think their weak point is probably that even if these ideas are very creative I want to see how they dont work anymore, also how will all of this work against Fnatic?

posted 9 months ago

Am I the only one who thinks we rely too much on individual plays and we have 0 creativity or innovation? Also the teams have very weird ideas from comps to the way teams play at a macro level, watching EU teams feels like "play slow for no reason, get 0 map control and then have the most readable and shitty execute ever, and even then most of the times the slow defaults are shit and players just get picked apart one by one"

posted 9 months ago

Good firepower from all 5 players, good fundamentals, very innovative, creative and they just play good together, it might seem stupid but they are just good, thats all.

posted 9 months ago

-soulcas +trexx

posted 9 months ago

tbh liquid cant be judged on this, they were doomed to fail with this wacky comp and gameplan

posted 9 months ago
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