They didnt fall off, remember RedBull last year with new FPX? They were shit, ANGE1 is a csgo old dog, csgo veterans tend to use scrims/small tournaments just to learn regardless of result so they were probably trying things and trying to learn as much as possible about what they should do in the future. I wouldnt worry about them either since they are the team with the best prep for matches so it can be hard sometimes to play these tournaments without knowing what the other team might do

facts, in esports you get chances by having contacts, if you remove the chance of you potentially making a team and grinding to the top and give a few all the slots then it becomes a shit show

also in reality that doesnt happen, players who dont perform will most likely get replaced by another franchise player and that player will find a team because he has "experience" in the league, its a tale as old as time

1 team a year is shit, not worth the investment for 80% of orgs

true but it has generally been the case in other esports, franchised leagues become a closed group where every1 knows eachother as there is sort of an elitism where they just reclycle eachother since they are "proven" to be decent at that level that is supposed to be way better than t2

Giants might have lost but still a promising showing considering they are a new team and its late so probably tired. Both Giants and Vitality have been showing a lot of promise in this tournament, I think fans are underrating these 2 teams because they dont have fan favourite players but they are actually underrated stars, if they mix well together as a team I could see them being better than TL, FNC or NaVi. What do you think vlr experts?

I hate it because we no longer get to see teams like this that could pontentially climb their way to the top of valorant and we will also see many trash players being recycled instead of good t2 talents being picked up

exact reason why it sucks

ez jinx

they are gonna stomp those noobs

navi always does this, they experiment with roles/comps a lot even in vct, personally I was expecting them to do this in a tournament like this

5th copium

not a good agent unless they buff him, no advantage to be gained, its a controller at the end of the day so not the most impactful

and it was equally dissapointing, so sad to see teams at this level not being able to understand and adapt on how to punish this braindead style, only drx/fpx/optic/loud seemed to have enough functioning braincells to punish this braindead style... and fpx did it with less than a day of prep

even a stick would do better than neilzinho and boo

heretics think they are playing against the classic eu team that waits until 10 seconds left to exec, 0 adaptation on how to play against this aggressive style, many mistakes from PRX but heretics dont know how to punish them, so dissapointing to see this at this level

Every1 at this point should know how to counter prx on bind, specially when they are no longer using chamber and can get backstabbed. Also so many stupid individual decision making and 0 discipline from some players. This is what happens when you sign players with room temp iq

who isnt robbing bleed at this point? maxie and pyth should be in prison after last season

not good enough, wont do well against european teams, there are simply better players than him imo

1. Even if secret are in franchising it doesnt mean they are better than bleed (they are on similar level or even worse than bleed)
2. you are an idiot, franchise is a lotery, there are better teams outside of franchise than some in franchise, specially in apac

also vitality and giants have better rosters than heretics on paper, very suprising it they manage to finish 5th or better

Mixwell is not that guy, he is playing well but compared to top EMEA talent he is pretty mediocre, zeek is world class tho and those who doubted him for a couple bad maps in a broken acend while going through depression are idiots

Heretics literally lost a map to fucking Secret, literally some 30yo boomers from SEA. Maybe they were tired but even if they made finals and they are winning matches, they dont too promising while doing it

korea lmao

Sometimes said hard truths and sometimes says the most dumb shit but this could be said about any1 in this planet, even if he says stupid shit its funny that people like this go viral, too many pussies in social media/society nowadays, hoping for a world war so the world can go back to normal and we wipe these pussies product of quality of life being too high off the earth, its time for common sense to comeback

"you run out of arguments" proceeds to claim mixwell is a good player hahahahaha, cant even discuss with some1 this stupid, you clearly dont know what you are talking about, my arguments have been good, you are just too stupid

So what? Its still a loss of time to practice for that shit, what if the competition starts in February? The goal is to the best or at least it should be, you need to work as hard as you can to achieve that specially when you have players who are this trash and washed. Also you need to practice/play small tournament as much as you can to understand if your pickups were good ahead of the season (sao paulo will be a good event to understand if you need roster changes aswell), when you have bad players with a lot to improve like heretics, they need to practice even harder than the others otherwise they wont do shit, they simply cant afford to play as much as liquid, navi or even fnatic because it wont be enough and even if they practice even more it will probably wont be enough because the players are just trash which just proves my point that boo, mixwell and avova are trash signings

Just talking about you not only from these posts but also other days, you are just a retard but wont accept it or realize it because only the ones among you suffer your retardation, the actual retard doesnt understand he is a retard

Why would they even pracc for Crossfire? They probably just kept practicing with 2023 roster and just played the tournament without practice (at least that would be the smart move), also mixwell played because of some player not being able to attend the event afaik. How tf has zeek been traveling for a whole week? Even if this is true, its just 1 week. Sorry but if heretics practiced with their old roster for the shitty crossfire tournament, they are actual retards who cant be saved

Avova was the best controller in EMEA? hahahaHAHAHHAHAHA, retarded as always, stop following narratives created by spanish community and start actually watching the game, avova only looking good because he was in the best team. Keloqz has been trash but what? He is super talented and unlike mixwell and avova he can improve and has good potential. I agree his breach was decent today but mechanically he is still VRL level, he still shoots like the beta always full spraying like its csgo, the guy hasnt gotten better at the mechanics of valorant since he started playing, at this rate he wont be able to compete in t2 by next year, not to say he is literally autist and is always thinking about how to play instead of just clicking heads on his stream, maybe he should become an igl if he ever learns how to talk without sounding like a fucking autist 10yo

my man mortadelo is one of the most retarded cunts in this forum, always lose braincells when I read him, when I make posts about mixwell he is always there to defend his lord, my man cant accept the guy is trash

There is still more games to be played m8, if it wasnt because these trash indians cant run a tournament without 1h pause between bo1 there would be time, also would be smarter if they didnt do the 2 groups in only 1 day. I understand my own idea, first seed deserves to guarantee qualification so it doesnt take too long but they dont deserve a guaranteed first seed like you are saying thats why I am asking for this. I shouldnt have said a team doesnt deserve to go through because off round diff but rather I should have said they dont deserve the guaranteed first seed because of round diff, even gods like me can miss. You are still a delusional retard tho, you probably have 500K mixwell points, stop being delusional about spanish teams/players, you might be a spanish fan but no need to pretend something/some1 is good when they are not, thats just fanatism

boo was closed about two weeks ago? do you actually believe that? he has been the only name for at least a month, you are delusional if you think they have spent a fucking month trialing players, there is a difference between closing the contract and knowing he is gonna be on the team and practicing with him

just because keloqz is a monkey who cant use his brain, its also pretty sad if your second best player is mixwell, shows 0 ambition as an org

? U stupid? I am not talking about a sample size of 3 games against asian bots, keloqz has top tier mechanical skill, if he was smarter than a dog he would be really good, avova and mixwell on the other are trash individually and arent good enough, they were trash csgo players who were only good in beta because of their cs experience, and even in beta avova was just lucky to be in the best team and wasnt that good and mixwell was a fucking bot with 0 impact when he played jett

Ofc they could add games, tiebreakers are used in a lot of esports, they just need to specify it before the tourney. I am not contradicting my point because my point is that its unfair for a team to go through to playoffs because of round difference, I am only using round diff to set seeding because otherwise it would take more matches and it wouldnt be practical so I am not contracting my point, didnt expect more from you Mortadelo, you have just enough IQ to barely understand english

u actually think they have been together for a week? are you aware these teams have been practicing for almost months before the announcements, right...?

keloqz is the least of their problems, avova and mixwell are literally useless, keloqz has potential at least, those 2 are just bad and washed

also -boo +hooxi

we are cool like that, he is my n

The team with best round diff plays against winner of the match between 2nd and 3rd, imo its unfair that if there is a tie it is decided who goes through on round diff when it was 3 bo1 matches where round diff doesnt mean much

Ye, Boo is usually decent but I agree, I get keloqz is not the smartest guy in the world but I cant understand how a player that mechanically gifted can perform this badly, he wasnt even performing against trash spanish teams in crossfire cup, so dissapointing for a player that has the skill to be with the best

No breaks given, unacceptable that you get a spot in EMEA franchise and you decide to sign these bots, 0 ambition

XD, they arent some good ass team either

Enigma and the other team are huge bots, I expected 26-0

yes, team secret very good, they did great last year! what an incredible team!!! they are just decent nothing else, an org like heretics should be beating these farmers easily but ofc they have shit sporting directors who think its a good idea to keep keloqz, sign botwell, sign trashvova and get boo who isnt even a good igl and was carried by destrian who is an actual good caller

Are they taking the rounds into account tho? Maybe they are only using W/L and will use tiebreakers

they are just bad, being an IGL doesnt mean you dont need to frag aswell, you dont need to put superstar performances but at least be useful, idk who conviced all of you vlr noobs that igls can get away with being trash because they igl

three way tie, not in playoffs yet I think

nicest thing I have ever read from you about EU