difference between 2021 and 2023 is quite large though

2021 prime sentinels vs 2023 dfm
conditions:

• played in the most recent patch
• SEN players are not aware of the new meta
• SEN players know how new agent works
• SEN player's individual skill are equivalent to their prime when they won
• dfm is just dfm

who? someone who hasnt even qualified to GC champs? someone who failed to win knights monthly?
yep a very great pickup for franchised

are you dumb

0y0

i feel like DRX players are fine
we need to get rid of our fraud coach termi

i thought you retired

nice self upvote!
and i never even mentioned geography or anything similar to that lmao

you are part of the marginalised gender community!

im not gonna defend saying n words and stuff but coming from an american is wild

falls short in knights monthly finals

?

allat

I think you misspelt worst

why GE

i miss fracture but icebox can rest in piss thanks

what is this combination
pacific flag + sen flair + emea win prediction + sen last prediction

hopefully they can do better than the previous off season stuffs

lol florscent in franchised performs at skrossi level max

allat but agree

bro this is the first time they went against each other

Skrossi >>

what does challengers mean here? open qualifier? closed qualifier? group stage? ascnesion?

Mary>

no one is going to chose their career based on vlr's opinion 😂😂😂
florscent could go to t2 but will do very mid

where is navi

tier 3 Chinese team probably beats SR 😂

I'm not talking marginalised genders only, I'm talking about GC in general: it makes it compulsory to have 5 non-male players. Affirmative action might not be a perfect analogy in terms of small differences in “Ensure” and “Creating” opportunities, but it still makes it compulsory that 5/5 players are reserved for non-male players (i kinda don’t get why male coaches are allowed).

The thing is that GC’s level is very low: SR (V1, G2 and other good GC teams) have yet to win even a small non-GC tournament; GC is not allowing non male players to compete at a higher level, but actually giving them consistent low-level games. V1 did participate in the open qualifier earlier this year, which i think more gc teams should do, and as seen from the results, V1 didn’t make it far at all (maybe to the closed qualifier but i forgot).

You also said that successful players in GC can still inspire other and server as role models. “Successful” here must be success in GC or maybe in ascension: these are not good enough for non males to view them as role models, because the truth would be that “Oh, even the best non-male couldn’t make it to top league let alone perform well?” One player in overwatch, Geguri, was a women and found success in overwatch league (similar to franchised league). She showed notable performance and did indeed inspire other females. I don’t think the results would’ve been same if geguri did this well in contenders (similar to ascension).

About the inclusivity part, we’ll see next year how many GC teams participate in non-gc tournaments

damn you are gonna sleep for more than a day?

yet to win knights monthly

fakeflagger

to lower the quality of franchised and ascension by 1 billion times?

I didnt read the whole thing but i assume that your point is that the reason why men are better than women is because of social differences, not physical?
I don't think you should get a separate league just because you are socially disadvantaged. I feel like affirmative action is very similar to this GC situation in valorant. What affirmative did was create competition among similar social classes, divided from the society. For example, if college A chooses 100 students, affirmative action made it so that 25 Asian, 25 white, 25 Hispanic and 25 black students had to be picked. Yes, there still is competition, but it narrows down into competition inside a race. Without affirmative action, it would likely have been that more Asians and whites could’ve been admitted. (please don’t take this as racism, it’s just how affirmative action affected college admissions). In Valorant, the highest league is clearly the franchised league, and it is open to all genders. GC is the highest league (not necessarily in skill, but in investment and support from riot) and only non-male players are allowed to compete, just because they are socially disadvantaged. This creates competition amongst the non-male players, and rarely tries to compete with the higher players. I think the existence of GC could have accounted for the fact that Mel was denied a trial in a franchised team earlier (idk exactly when); there was no need to incorporate this unproven player who only has performed in lower skilled tournaments, especially when she had a solid league she could go back to.

I also think the existence of GC is creating more division between male and non-males in valorant. You said one of the social causes of skill differences is because of the lack of role models. If no non-male player succeeds in franchised league, but only dominates GC (I'll have florescent as an example here), new incoming non-male players’ role models would lie in GC league only, not the higher level franchised league. The cycle would then continue until the difference in franchised and GC becomes larger and becomes impossible to close out the social differences.

You also referred to this situation of male vs non male to west vs east in lol. Though it is true that LCK and LPL have been destroying LEC and LCS for a few years. The social and skill differences are not as big as it is in valorant. Even at this year’s worlds we had G2 beat and lck and lpl team (though 4th seed), and GAM (Vietnamese team, even less social base than na and emea) beat liquid. Sure, G2 was emea’s first seed while they beat the 4th seeds, I don’t think that best GC team has the capability to beat the 4th team in any franchised league. Plus, in G2 was one of the closest teams to the golden road (winning all tournaments in one year). The fact that riot kept mixing western and eastern teams and not creating a separate league has definitely increased fandoms of western teams and skill levels. GC players would never be able to overcome this social gap as long as GC continues to exist.

tldr cus I know no one would read all this and I’m pretty sure I made some repetitive comments

• The whole GC thing is similar to affirmative action which was deemed unconstitutional
• GC only fosters social division amongst men and non-men in valorant esports
• one of your examples about lol league actually enforces my point that mixing these two leagues with social differences actually closed the gap a little
  Open to discussions

americas cannot be decided yet because 100t nrg and eg hasnt finished their roster

like EG

and people though this team was top 3 pacific

they need to win knights monthly first

navi/fpx is like the only team drx can win without choking

Liquid please win

unfortunately its bo1

maybe could win knights monthly at peak

ill say it for you: EMEA reps has women only team

BBL roster my favourite player!

i would be mad surprised

faker

isn’t that violation of the first amendment

stop please

no i like liquid

BLG at C is wild 😂😂😂😂😂😂
they were getting destroyed by T10 china

you know who else is canadian? TENZ