it's just sybaus nobody's jumping on them

sybau

sowwy :3

forsaken and kk are not 2 of the most overrated players

Derke is not the 2nd GOAT after chronicle

furia does not deserve to be in vct

just take the next 2 highest teams by ascension points, they literally have it all balanced why did they decide on 14 teams

yes i know, doesn't answer why 16 is the best number

true, tbh i'm at college and i like to play at home on my xbox so it'll be a while until i get to play again. but i'll still be playing silksong first

yeah but why is 16 the best number? make that 21 and suddenly EMEA is in 2nd. you need to look at all the teams, not cut off at some arbitrary number

yeah prx has been winning every series, so has g2 but prx is clearly better

i wrapped up hollow knight (109%, missing pantheons 2-5) over the past few weeks so i could focus on silksong, i think you should just play silksong day 1 since hollow knight will always be there

one of the china teams will be S tier, but we don’t know which yet

i didn't want to cap the # rounds to 156, since so many teams are below that. nothing wrong with the tournament itself

Only tournaments after franchising (excluding LOCK/IN and EWC). This count isn't "revising history", it's looking at fixed points in time; e.g. if a team loses the grand finals 0-3 in three OTs, they weren't 2+2+2 rounds away from the trophy, they were 2+13+13 rounds away. Also, I did this all manually so I may have missed things.

Of interest: C9 and BBL had their closest-ever moments yesterday, and BBL can get even closer today with a victory over GX!

EDG: 0 (Seoul)
EG: 0 (LA)
FNC: 0 (Tokyo)
GENG: 0 (Shanghai)
PRX: 0 (Toronto)
SEN: 0 (Madrid)
T1: 0 (Bangkok)
G2: 1 (Bangkok, 1 round on Pearl v T1)
TH: 4 (Seoul, 4 rounds on Abyss v EDG)
LEV: 41 (Seoul, 2 rounds on Abyss v EDG + 1 series)
LOUD: 44 (LA, 5 rounds on Bind v EG + 1 series)
WOL: 53 (Toronto, 1 round on Lotus v PRX + 1 map + 1 series)
VIT: 79 (Bangkok, 1 round on Bind v G2 + 1 map + 2 series)
100T: 81 (Shanghai, 3 maps on Icebox v GENG + 1 map + 2 series)
NRG: 81 (Tokyo, 3 rounds on Bind v PRX + 2 series)
DRX: 83 (LA, 5 rounds on Fracture v EG + 1 map + 2 series)
TL: 83 (Tokyo, 5 rounds on Fracture v EG + 1 map + 2 series)
KC: 93 (Madrid, 2 rounds on Ascent v SEN + playoffs)
BLG: 107 (LA, 3 rounds on Lotus v DRX + 1 map + 3 series)
RRQ: 107 (Toronto, 3 rounds on Ascent v WOL + 1 map + 3 series)
TE: 107 (Seoul, 3 rounds on Sunset v EDG + 1 map + 3 series)
FUT: 108 (LA, 4 rounds on Ascent v PRX + 1 map + 3 series)
XLG: 111 (Toronto, 7 rounds on Sunset v SEN + 1 map + 3 series)
FPX: 118 (Shanghai, 1 round on Icebox v TH + playoffs)
NAVI: 119 (LA, 2 rounds on Lotus v DRX + playoffs)
KRU: 122 (Seoul, 5 rounds on Haven v FNC + playoffs)
GX: 136 (LA, 6 rounds on Fracture v EDG + 1 map + playoffs)
ZETA: 157 (LA, 1 round on Bind v NRG + 1 map + 1 series + playoffs)
DRG: 158 (Shanghai, 2 rounds on Ascent v FUT + 1 map + 1 series + playoffs)
TLN: 158 (Seoul, 2 rounds on Bind v LEV + 1 map + 1 series + playoffs)
MIBR: 162 (Toronto, 6 rounds on Sunset v TL + 1 map + 1 series + playoffs)
BBL: 170 (Paris, 1 round on Bind v TL + tournament)
TEC: 171 (Madrid, 3 rounds on Bind v DRG + 1 series + tournament)
C9: 172 (Paris, 3 rounds on Lotus v NRG + tournament)
TS: 178 (Tokyo, 9 rounds on Bind v DRX + tournament)
MKOI: 184 (LA, 2 rounds on Haven v GIA + 1 map + tournament)
TYL: 184 (LA, 2 rounds on Ascent v FPX + 1 map + tournament)
GE: 199 (Bangkok, 4 rounds on Abyss v TLN + 2 series + tournament)
NS: 200 (Bangkok, 5 rounds on Fracture v DRX + 2 series + tournament)
M8: 201 (Bangkok, 6 rounds on Pearl v TH + 2 series + tournament)
AG: 207 (Paris, 12 rounds on Lotus v XLG + 1 series + tournament)
JDG: 209 (Madrid, 1 round on Bind v TEC + 1 map + 2 series + tournament)
NOVA: 211 (Bangkok, 3 rounds on Fracture v EDG + 1 map + 2 series + tournament)
DFM: 213 (Madrid, 5 rounds on Lotus v DRX + 1 map + 2 series + tournament)
FUR: 213 (Bangkok, 5 rounds on Haven v LEV + 1 map + 2 series + tournament)
BOOM: 214 (Toronto, 6 rounds on Fracture v PRX + 1 map + 1 series + tournament)
APK: 236 (Bangkok, 2 rounds on Haven v M8 + 1 map + 3 series + tournament)
2G: 240 (Bangkok, 6 rounds on Haven v FUR + 1 map + 3 series + tournament)

you can't just call 15 teams fodder, even if PRX are the favorites

rrq is dead, no korean teams in their group </3

G2 lost bangkok with 2 free maps too, still anyone's game

:3 i thought this was a laundry post but glad to see everyone is spreading positivity!

americas tiebreak goes by head-to-head, and MIBR have a better h2h with NRG and C9 (and all the other teams that were formerly in contention)

YAY :3

just trying to help :) signs of psychopathy can show up anywhere. you don't seem to understand that it's just loser behavior at a personal level, and instead keep passing it off as "everyone's defending streamers".

if ur finding enjoyment from sabotaging other people for no reason you should go to a psychiatrist i think. and i'm not talking about whether it's cheating, i'm talking about whether it takes away the spirit of the game. when you get a free win from knowing the enemy location at all times, do you genuinely feel satisfied? that's also a problem. i think you need to grow up, thank god you're on vlr and not anywhere that actually affects people

because it is fun for nobody - the streamer, the watcher, and you. to me, cheating in any game, sport, or competition takes away all the fun because the victories are meaningless. if you want to sacrifice that just to get some elo, you should rethink your priorities in life

while i agree mibr are shit rn, you can’t tell me they’re worse than kru or eg with a straight face. they also went 2-3 in stage 2, bombed out in playoffs, and ofc did worse than mibr in kickoff/stage 1

4/3 points for 3rd/4th, no points for winning a random series

they're playing bind, so there's no mid

G2, MIBR, SEN, and whoever currently in the lower bracket gets top 3 (unless LEV gets exactly 3rd, in which case it goes to whoever gets 4th)

a 6-point team MUST make top 3 in order to make champs, because 6+3=9 won't do it. however, 2/3 of the top 3 are taken by G2/SEN already, so this is impossible

in your example, point to nrg and c9 in the bracket, and draw a line towards the lower finals. you will see they collide

playoffs, playoffs, grouped, n/a

100t and nrg? sounds like they'll have a close game with vitality or wolves at champs... but they won't do so well against teams that actually qualified. but yeah i hope they do better than 16th (maybe 13th)

this is a good point, champs is supposed to show the best teams throughout the year, which means both teams that fell off (mibr) and teams that got better (maybe eg or 100t depending on stage 2). same thing with t1

people here don't want aspas/mibr to do badly, we're just upset because they will do badly and disappoint americas

ewc is not counted, and i think mibr win on map diff (3-2)
*edit apparently round diff but yeah

correct

relegate </3

love fake comebacks

gentle m8vi

take care of yourself too :3 <3

if c9 is 2g equivalent, sen are loud equivalent

they win today (get top 4 overall), OR fnatic or liquid get top 2, OR liquid don't get top 4

i wanna see the DRG story

i disagree, thanks for the rankup :)

YESSSS

shocking (to nobody)

how many champ points would you get for 1st/2nd place in stage 2 though? 7/5 like at toronto?

What's wrong with Vaporeon? Did you know that in terms of bulky Pokémon and physical attackers battling, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for battle? Vaporeon's typing and good defenses let it check common physical attackers like Paldean Tauros-W, Incineroar, and Flygon, and Water Absorb makes it one of the best answers to opposing Water-types like Inteleon and Basculegion-M. Compared to other physically bulky Water-types like Swampert and Quagsire, Vaporeon excels due to its access to reliable recovery in Wish and its ability to pivot and potentially pass Wish to its teammates with Flip Turn. Vaporeon can also run Haze, which allows it to check bulky setup sweepers like Calm Mind Cresselia and Iron Defense Registeel.

maybe stage 2? otherwise if drg win and xlg get 5th-6th or something, how many points does drg get for winning. (pure speculation)

0 -> 3 sentinels in 2 weeks is really funny

mewtwo

i see, i thought you were talking about all of china

clearly only the last comment counts