"not good enough mechanically for t1"

look at what anyone who has coached him has said

according to everyone who has coached and played with him, in scrims he is just a different player like 90% better which is why he has stayed in liquid for so long

yay

you wouldnt put pancada because he has shown any good results since champs 2022 like literally nothing. you dont know if the talent is there anymore. if you dont think nats is a top sentinel then people like suygetsu and less should also be disqualified.

then whats your list?

benjy
chichoo
alfa
meteor (kinda a senti)
??

I can believe in a strong domestic season but I dont see a inter playoffs for the team

but hey idk

hallllooooo

-> rates kajaak below derke -> believes fnatic will win a title
??

doesnt matter in the olympics and also makes it 99% easier to sort players into regions (because this is a hypothetical)

ive met atleast 3 which is already too much

the worse draws for TE were EDG, DRX and heretics, very unfortunate

I was kinda cooking here no?

hi :D its 9 pm for me

his champs performance was mediocre this year, but like in champs 2022 he was incredible

yes, as long as he isnt bringing down the mood, I agree

g0-2 if that happens

koi roster? overrated? how they seem pretty fairly rated

tokyo

and internationally he has performed very well on an individual level, I dont see how you can lower someones performance because their team was unable to perform at the same level, if nats was mediocre at those events, yeah sure, he cant be considered the best but he puts up numbers despite the lackluster performance of the rest of his team, there are two matches he did bad. liquid vs loud (where everyone did bad) and liquid vs EDG. all his other matches far exceed his teammates

?????
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/34979/envy-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/220451/team-liquid-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/247100/team-liquid-vs-natus-vincere-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-opening-d
https://www.vlr.gg/213198/fnatic-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-gf

of course, there is just a pool of igls that are provided by riot so teams can play well!

get robac

in game

izu isnt a terrible player and I heard somewhere that he is important to their fanbase or something

s1mon has taiwanese flag and I assume it would be like the olympics where hk, macau and tw all represent themselves

who else in china do you rate higher than aaay overall? I think he is one of the best but yh

riens, woot, alfa, xeus (cned makes sense too), mr falin

LMAO

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1fwrkkd/buzz_denies_reaching_verbal_agreement_with_t1/

this what I saw tho

the cis disrespect

no I mean like china dont have smoggy so is it like you can only have 3 edg players or something.

Also for china I would probably have aaay > life and if not smoggy someone like luoking/flexin > nizhao

is there like a maximum number of people on a roster being in the world cup team or something

thats very fair

yeah that makes sense, great argument

you dont really need that tho, just do an invite based system for the chinese team(s) and you dont need a CN casters/stream do you? stuff like the AFTV to my knowledge had chinese teams without such

are we done with this :(

do we even know if buzz goes to t1?

no chinese? :(

I thought stax hates igling

shipping real ppl is weird ;-;

dont think a top 8 and top 3 team can be called an overrated core tbh

all these games are where all of drx do bad except 1, who is normally mako. show a game where its actually buzz fault

they wouldnt even beat fnatic without buzz besides mako they are all negative in a 17 - 26 series

look at every other game, look who is putting drx on his back and getting them to their placement in the first place

how is buzz overrated

buzz - no
Zander if you rate over bang - sure, i rate both equally
yay if you're the 20% of people that think he's a t1 player (he's 26, practically 50 in esports years, let him rest) - disagree there are worse tier1 players than him but its fine if you think he is like atleast t2
kaajak if u think hes derke - sure
boaster if u think hes boaster - no

my top 5 is
pancada - not close to the best smokes player rn
forsaken - good flex not the best anymore
something - good duelist but wayyyy to many people think he is top 5 rn
hiro - great player, not top 20 itw rn tho
whzy - yes he is the original chinese jett but he is like above average rn in china

who?

im sorry but this is a horrid take if you are trying to justify the use of the nword by anyone who isnt black

user

https://imgur.com/a/JtBt3nR

tier 2 knowledge of a fish

not a bad player but not amazing, I think would disqualify vitality from a superteam

are we going for theme? val related? or just anything? esports?
heres the agents tho

Phoenix,
Jett,
Yoru,
Neon,
Reyna,
Raze,
Omen,
Clove,
Harbor,
Viper,
Brimstone,
Astra,
Cypher,
Sage,
Deadlock,
Vyse,
Cypher,
Killjoy,
Chamber,
Sova,
Kayo,
Breach,
Fade,
Skye,
Gekko,