facts

agreed, def niche but excels in that niche

fair point but a 2-1-2 setup negates most of these issues as well
and what about my other points? why does bang need to be on viper?

explain logic
why is first comp bad? lots of teams forego sentinels on icebox in favor of playing viper like a psuedo sentinel
bang plays omen a lot and johnqt plays viper a lot - like I just said, viper is more of a psuedo senti so johnqt roles are fine
"zellsis needs to debut a new agent like kayo" you have zero ball knowledge what the fuck it's literally his most played agent

how come? even postnerf 2024, she was picked a decent amount esp on icebox

icebox for example, they could run a couple comps
one being:
zekken jett
n4rrate sova
bang omen
johnqt viper
zellsis kayo

or if you want a sentinel, forgo flash initators and rely on omen blind with a comp like
zekken jett
n4rrate sova
bang omen
johnqt viper
zellsis kj

what?
narrate scan init
zekken duelist
zellsis flash init/flex

sen hiko and scream

no it's clearly asuna and magnum are you blind

no they're signing asuna and magnum

i just busted

holy fuck wait this would be peak cinema

anything to get stax off igl and let him frag out honestly

would feed families

why necro

your point?

https://i.imgur.com/CtLMlxo.png are you blind?

yap yap yap
i just went and checked temet's neon tracker and holy FUCK you are just yapping aren't you? "hardstuck bottom of the barrel radiant" when he had ONE bad act in ep8a3 and peaked #219/#139 even before the buffs rolled out. last act, he placed #126 - nowhere near a significant increase from 139. you're cherrypicking inconsistencies in acts and chalking it up to an agent change.

when did i ever say anything about high pickrate ??? for the last fucking time - players who are skilled enough to take advantage of a broken character will do so, and go up in rank. now, is it fair to say that they're playing above their skill level? do you think jinggg performs nearly as well on any other agent as he does on raze or reyna in pro play? probably not. does that make him boosted by raze? no, not at all, it just makes him a onetrick. i don't understand where you're trying to go with this - i'm not making any comments about how neon is overtuned - but you can't just say that she "allows people to play above their skill level", because that's not how game balancing works.

I give an anecdote about a silver -> you say that's not enough because it's only one case->

what do you want me to say here - "oh yeah go ahead ignore the fundamentals of statistics and generalize that anecdote to every neon player"????? like how mentally inept can you possibly be?

temet being the face of neon is exactly why your point is incorrect LMFAO
the buff that neon received was infinitely more valuable to temet and other high level neon players than literally EVERY other neon player out there, because of their understanding of the agent and ability to hit high elo even without those buffs, similar to yasuo/kat/zed players in league. the average silver neon player runs around like a headless chicken and will likely use that second dash to run straight into a point blank crosshair.

again - you can't extrapolate your anecdote to all silvers. what is so hard about this? as for temet, it's like a yasuo main in league. there's a clip of riot august talking about this, where they keep mechanically demanding champions like yasuo, katarina and zed and the like lower winrate on purpose - because the onetricks will make them stupid busted given any substantial buff. that's all that happened to temet, and doesn't remotely prove your point.

wow main agent gets buffed --> you play better
was the buff to neon substantial? yes. will it allow a silver 1 to cook diamond lobbies? no.

what about temet says "silver 1 player" LMFAO you're just reaching now. what's your reasoning for why your point can stand alone without anything substantial to back it up?

that's... what i just said? if you're going to make a point and back it up with a single anecdote, you're claiming that the results of that anecdote can be generalized to the domain in which your point applies, which in this case consists of all neon mains

you're applying the outcome of that anecdote to all neon mains lol

basic statistics - you can't extrapolate the results of one game to the population

did they not just say that the entire premise of a silver 1 frying high diamond lobbies was dubious? average vlr reading comprehension

g2 consistently mid

l take
jawgemo raze was running circles around jinggg in 2023

you're prob thinking of espadas which does sound close enough LOL

p sure something counts as an emea import, so you could go with flashback or smth for that sentinel spot

how has nobody mentioned c0m yet
he was solid this year but he was getting unreal value in potter's system

own that fraud

o7

o7

what's with the narrative that being igl means you can't clutch? fragging in general i understand, as you have to be checking minimap and processing information a lot more often, but in a clutch you're alone with nothing besides the standard info to focus on lol

i wasn't even fully joking, rb clears so hard

good take but unfortunately Titan Esports Club clears

bilibili

Give Wingman 36 Nuclear Devices

babysasuke

tyty
holy fk what a clip

clip?

?

the moment you claimed to have aura is the moment you lost all of it(though it wasn't much, if any, to begin with)

fair play

tokyo was fairly competitive i'd say, the only argument against that being that loud and drx were off form but even then, it was a good showing from fnc

yeah checks out

was a 1v4 no?