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I need help finding the name of the song in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFj2Cwnhzcw

the song is roughly from 0:51 - 1:10 before it gets drowned out by comms.

tf is a derby then lmao i assumed it was like rivalries between local teams like man utd and man city

El Clasico. most entertaining to watch back in the glory days of fcb and rma, and statistically the 'best' in terms of viewership im pretty sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4QNWMqS1GE

Funny editing, hope they release more of these.

yeah thats DEFINITELY what i said!! no reading comprehension stop replying to me pls.

Damn bro... you really got me there 😐 gonna go cry about what a braindead pro player dick sucker told me on a valorant forum!!

k so you're still repeating the same bullshit about choking which isnt an argument at all. if they choked then they're not a good team. consistency is what makes a good team. and you could even say that for NA. maybe TSM was the strongest team but choked in the qualifiers. it doesnt fucking matter, both regional playoffs were double elim and showed the best consistent teams. we're done here, go outside and do something bro lmfao

V1 with a stand-in was not 2nd best NA team. V1 at peak form with full squad was 2nd best NA, and not even by a far margin at all. 2nd best NA could've easily gone to Envy or C9b. all the matches were close. V1 at iceland they had jammyz. They were obviously worse, yet went 14-12 against fnatic and choked it once again. 2 of top 4 teams doesnt mean shit when Liquid obviously had the easier bracket. They lost to V1 and had a breeze in the lower. If v1 went against TL in lower and TL won then you could make that argument. But V1 >> TL and thats with a stand in LMAO. FNC >> TL at that time as well

No ones putting effort in this, i'm quite literally watching matches and typing this out as its common sense that you EU fans high on copium cannot understand

"my point stands" 🤓👆 what point LMFAO you have no point you fucking moron go touch grass you obsessed freak. Jesus people on this site are a hivemind and cesspool of ape brains.

Did I say challengers? can you read bro LMAO. I clearly said playoffs. They didnt 'barely' make it they quite literally stomped the competition. it astonishes me every day how fucking low IQ people are on this site? How the fuck do you call literal stomps against the best teams in EMEA luck? They fucking grinded and consistently performed to earn their spot. The only team that you can argue that was at a disadvantage because of no double elim is Acend. But thats one team, and there were still FPX guild and gambit all of which ddidnt perform.

says the one who felt the need to look into my posts and actually analyze them? Cringe as fuck LMAO. 20% of them are paragraphs which I wrote in the spawn of a few minutes. You dont know me bro ur literally a nukkye dick rider lmao. This dude has no life and will infinitely respond to people no matter what. I disengage as soon as its obvious that the other person in the argument is an idiot, which most people on this site including you are

Stop replying to me you weird nerd, you're ignorant and stubborn lmfao. The playoffs had a double elim bracket with FPX and guild as well. and they didnt perform, while liquid did.

Cringe fake fan. Fnatic going all the way to Berlin. even 100T looked shaky on their first map against V1 in challengers.

Cope harder lol. Liquid did not get lucky, they just peaked during that time. They were the top 2 teams in EMEA 100%. You cant call multiple wins over multiple tourneys luck. Sure they're worse after iceland, but so is fnatic. That doesnt take away from the fact that they represented the top of EMEA. They righttfully beat all the top teams and then lost to v1 with a stand in. Pathetic fucking EU copium here, genuinely concerning to see how hard people like you will try to pull excuses out of your ass. Get a life bro LMAO.

k. dont care, not gonna do this with you as i've said. you havent made any valid points but repeated the same things. stop replying to me pls i already proved ur shitty argument wrong.. Just take the L. Weirdo has no life and if I kept going with full on paragraphs u definitely would as well. get a fucking hobby lmao.

"But how do you prove that Fnatic are not at their peak. Like how do you prove that. If you keep using your logic to me that I can't prove it without numbers and shit. How would you prove that Fnatic are not at their peak. Well I mean you could say they are losing. But that also doesn't mean shit. Because the teams could just be improving. And that's pretty much happening after all these new rosters were created."

Because they're sloppy asf and are not able to beat teams that they once could dominate? I never said teams werent improving, obviously the teams are improving, but Fnatic was also on a downhill trajectory obviously after Iceland. Its the same as TSM. They peaked in late 2020, and have been downhill ever since.

"Ok so there are around like 5-7 tier 1 teams in NA if you consider consistency as something important. And there's a similar amount in EU. But the big thing. Is that you can also play with TR and CIS. Which means that you have more. Quite a bit more. EMEA is just the bigger region and saying that it isn't is wrong."

yeah its bigger. And? Bigger /=/ better. In valorant, and in life, if u know what i mean 😏😏

TR is a comparatively worse region than EU, as well as CIS. They're not bad regions, but compared to EU, they're worse, and compared to NA, worse as well. And i'm specifically talking about EU in this argument anyways because the only 2 teams from EMEA were EU.

"Also Reykjavik happened like 3 months ago bro. Teams change. If you are still going to say outdated results matter. You are wrong. It's like saying right before Masters 1 NA that 100t or TSM are the best teams because 100t won first strike and Masters hasn't happened yet so therefore we base it off that."

No shit teams change, did I ever say the opposite? The example you used is just so inaccurate and misleading because the situations are not the same. We're talking international esports. We dont have any results to debunk the Iceland results. But before Master 1 obviously we had more recent results which showed Sentinels and other teams being much more consistent. There is no logic in that scenario to put 100T or TSM at #1 because there are new results.

"It's fucking dumb. Because it is dumb. Literally saying that NA is just better is not objective right now. We can't know and we shouldn't base it off of old results."

Dumb because it is dumb. Great argument bro. Not doing this with you again, cba to write paragraphs to argue with your bullshit because you're definitely a stubborn person who will refuse to admit they are wrong, and you'll just keep repeating the same talking points. NA is better until proven otherwise. That doesnt mean its 100% factual, and I didnt say it was, but it is definitely the most logical assessment because it is the only data we have rn. It's like the period after Masters 2. Sen was still considered the best team in NA even before tourneys sttarted back up despite the fact 2 months passed. Best team until proven otherwise. anyways just stop pls im not wasting time with you again on this because you're just extremely stubborn and unintelligent

I can understand that then completely tbh

Cope harder bro. Liquid is trash, and NA is still better than EU.

Dont you need a visa for most international travel?

"EU do have better strats overall. Like SEN and teams from NA have better mid round adaptation. But it's undeniable that EU does have the best pre planned strats except for maybe KR. KR isn't probably the style that Sharks want to copy though."

Definitely not. They dont have better strats, and you have no evidence to justify that. Its a groundless statement.

"Also Sentinels in NA still is the best team in NA by a far margin."

Definitely not. You dont watch NA valorant which is obvious. They lost to XSET, and went to OT with 100T. Even before Iceland, they lost a map to almost every NA team in the playoffs..

"But the teams from EU who won in Iceland. Aren't even in top 4 in challengers 1 stage 3. That's showing that teams are improving"

Its obvious that Fnatic is just rusty, and even then it doesnt matter. They were at their PEAK back then, if other teams improve it doesnt mean the other NA teams arent improving too.

"But saying that NA is still the best region is really unknown because EU does have the bigger scene overall so there will be more high level competition. Like there's only 15 or so teams that are considered Tier 1 or 1.5 in NA. There are like 25 or so Tier 1 or 1.5 teams in EMEA"

Its not unknown because we have previous results to work from. I'm not saying EU cant win Berlin or whatever, its just that NA is better until proven otherwise. Which will happen at Berlin. And saying that there are '25' tier 1 or 1.5 teams is inherently wrong because you cant have that many teams within tier 1. tier 1 is for the elite of the elite, the consistent top 8. I dont care how many tier 1.5 /2 teams there are. What matters is the tier 1 teams.

"he EU scene is growing and saying that NA is objectively better is incorrect. Of course EU isn't the better scene objectively. But NA isn't either."

Its not incorrect, its the most logical assessment of the regions strengths rn. And it is definitely objective. Obviously we have no way to factually 100% know who would win RIGHT NOW if the regions went head to head, but we still have Iceland results which we base our assessments off of until Berlin.

of course, because everything pros say are 100% true and factual right? Just because he says that doesn't mean it is factual lol, it's not logical either. Its basic common sense, NA teams were much more competitive with SEN and took maps off them, while no EU teams could do the same. V1 with a stand-in beat the 2nd best team in all of EMEA, when V1 with a stand in would get rolled by other NA teams.

Sure their move made sense but what you're saying doesnt make sense at all. you're implying that EU as a region is better at that when thats not the case. NA is the better region until proven otherwise. EU is not a bad region by any means but we're still better. No NA teams are like that, in the tier 1 scene at least, and even in the high tier 1.5/tier 2 scene. This generalization is completely ignorant and just blatantly rejects facts

#4

Wait after thinking about it i'm 99% sure they're boot camping in Serbia because it is a good central location in EU, where they can scrim against many EU teams and get way better. This actually seems like an insane move, but if they wanted to do that, they should've went to NA bc we're the better region + the best team in the world 😏

From brazil to serbia? but why? Cant they bootcamp in brazil?

100T 3-2 SEN (TSM #3rd seed to berlin)

TR >>> BR 100%.

I'm fully aware of that, and i actually like football way more than basketball lmao. I'm just stating the facts about cultural differences not being equal to national teams not taking the sport seriously.

Well dont be too surprised, most of the players on the roster that lost are not any all-star players that represent the best of the best of NBA

??? Other countries take it 'seriously' too but of course its not as prominent in their cultures as it is in USA. Its the same for soccer, soccer isnt as prominent in USA culture which is why the USA isnt as good at soccer nationally. Does that mean they dont take it seriously? Of course they do.

Lol cringe, you're obviously baiting or trolling but to the people who are misled by this, USA/American basketball is the best in the world, with the best teams, players, and leagues. All the good talents from around the world go to the NBA for a reason. USA losing nationally doesn't mean shit when we didn't even have our best players out there. An all-star USA team would stomp lol..

Sheeesh

Are you dumb

Not too sure, I didnt notice anything extraordinary, just basic comms like Sentinels videos. But then again, it was 40 minutes long, so maybe it was too long. I kind of skipped over the first two maps and focused on the Bind map, because that one was juicy and very close

Lmao I just finished watching it as it went private. Unlucky

I said that as ONE of the possible solutions, yeah. But if you're asking me who would replace xeta, the obvious answer is Sinatraa, in september, for the LCQ.

TSM will get #1st seed in this challengers to then go to the playoffs and qualify to berlin (as 3rd seed) in the best underdog/comeback of a once great team story of all time.

"So what? Is that suddenly a CRIME to go negative.... or was that too dificuilt to proceed to the next rounds from there, winning 2-0 in bo3 untill they faced stronger teams on the way ofc?

Again, showing off your ignorance, marvelous display, putting words in my mouth once again.

"Xeppa added some good impact vs LG(never said anything) but based on your logic, then where was Xeppa vs RISE? That game was not less important than vs LG. "

Recent results >>> You could make a valid argue for xeppa getting better with more experience. Back then he was jett, now he's on support, more value. Xeta, not at all, he' sbeen on support for months, and recently been underperforming, but again, that isnt even my main point.

" And no, those are not speculations. Those are arguments that excluding Xeta from being the scapegoat in your eyes. As I said if you want to look for issues in C9B, then look but don't point at a player who doesn't deserve such treatment. That's my point to you."

Of course its speculation. I said that xeta COULD be the problem. Never said he was. And I provided justifications for it. End of the story.

"Again you are calling me IGNORANT for my attempts of drggaing you down off those delucional CLOUDS of poor judgment you're currently on. And shoving me TSM Drone's situation as an example has nothing to do with Xeta's accustion from you side. Good job ;)"

Damn you're proving me right once again. Of course drone's situation has EVERYTHING to do with xeta's situation. NO ONE thought of dropping drone based on stats alone, even if he did underperform sometimes. LIKE XETA. Thus proving stats arent the entire truth. Behind the scenes, however, it was obvious that drone was the problem. But diid we know that BEFORE dropping him? No. Its the same thing with xeta, its possible.

"So, then if you also convinced that the problem could be because of anyone, you should stop spreading bs about Xeta. I will only be happy with it. Also, saying that stats are not the whole thing doesn't make you smarter. Learn to use them when they're needed."

Im not spreading bs though, I'm stating facts. Stats are not the whole thing, in this specific argument. Obviously I know when to use stats. If your duelist is bottom ACS and bottom fragging for 20 games in a row, including all the important games, OBVIOUSLY he's not suited for that role

"Yeah, come on let's look at STATS againts teams C9B had a walk in the park winning each and everyone 2-0(bo3) in STAGE 3"

Bro he literally went negative in some of them lmao... but yeah obviously they dont matter as much, and like I said, stats arent the whole thing either.

"Does that mean Xeppa has to go because not good enough recently? Floppy left, Xeta needs to go and also Xeppa needs to go now according to your "tough" LOGIC, right?"

Not really, Xeppa got them a lot of high impact frags and clutched vs LG MULTIPLE times with Poiz. He had way more impact than xeta. But its definitely possible that Xeppa COULD be the problem too. You're not understanding that this is all speculation and we have no way of knowing definitively what the problem is.

"And after all you call me an ignorant, yeah? Just accept and move on... No need to shove me numbers that work against your claims. It's all good but we need a point to critique from otherwise it won't work, you know."

You are definitely ignorant. You're repeating the same bullshit talking points which I refuted entirely by clearly telling you that stats aren't the entire truth. If they were, drone would not be dropped, and TSM would still be trash. But here we are, with Leviathan making them look better than ever.

You're arrogant if you think you can factually state that its not because of xeta or xeppaa. It could be because of ANYONE. You dont know what goes on behind the scenes.

love it, lets go fnatic #FNCWIN all the way

I mean either way it would be a huge upgrade, sinatraa is versatile af and is a way better sova obviously. He could also flex to duelist.

Actually the past 3-4 games he's been bottom of the leaderboard/ 2nd bottom of the leaderboard. Either way stats don't speak out the entire truth, as I said above. Did we think that tsm drone was a problem based on the stats? no. But clearly it had something to do with behind the scenes, his comms/util usage not being good enough since he mained phoenix initially. Replacing xeta COULD definitely be a good solution to C9's problems. Did I ever say it was all because of xeta's bad game? You're putting words in my mouth bro.. you sound very ignorant lmao. Literally said that they lacked fundamentals, structure, and good strats too. Replacing the IGL might be a valid option as well like I said.

Basically yeah you can't read lol. And again, his work in stage 2 doesn't matter at all if he's still underperforming in Stage 3.

wait this could actually work really well if C9B make it to LCQ. Sinatraa's gonna be available around september, and by then we'll probably have exact details about the LCQ from riot bc we dontt know how they're gonna format it exactly rn. Sinatraa for xeta would be a huge upgrade.

LMAO

FNC 2-0. They'll dominate in here and then dominate EMEA playoffs to go to Berlin as #1st seed in the best comeback story of all time.

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/70deb613

#ALWAYSFNATIC
FNC WIN

Stage 2 was good, he's bad in stage 3. Thats what matters rn

Not too sure myself, but there are probably some insane Sova talents on Tier 2 teams rn that they can scout out, and people on this site probably know about.

Idk in the recent matches he's been underperforming kind of. even in TSM we didnt consider drone to be a problem yet they dropped him and gott Leviathan and look insanely better.