np agreed I like having actual discussions > mindless arguments

as a special event once a year would be pretty dope ngl. would feel bad for the players picked last though

the main point is that fpx players were hating on XSET about it on twitter and once it was shown that XSET had no involvement they haven't said anything else, no "ggs" or anything

hate towards XSET on twitter ----> people talk about it on here and hate on fpx because the hate towards XSET was unjustified

all good abt twt links. Imo dont think its being blown out of proportion but its a fair stance

can u post the tweets? want some context

minor trashtalk against Fnatic vs fpx calling XSET losers and saying they faked a bug because they were salty

imo they were mostly equal on ascent, imo more of the reason XSET lost was the rounds they threw (switching lane of attack to cat with 30 seconds left)

bcuz the next tweets were bashing on XSET for supposedly being too salty about the loss that they had to call out a "bug" to get the rounds replayed?

where has XSET trash talked on twitter

if they didn't want to delete their tweets then they should tweet something else out saying "all good" or "ggs" to XSET or something similar. instead its just radio silence

its been 24 hours since then. the "they didn't know" argument isnt valid anymore

they shouldn't be angry at XSET but they do have a right to be angry against riot

lmfao

no im guessing it'll be a bit after champs

"XSET have a history of complaining" it was one time the previous day, where they quickly apologized as it was said in the heat of the moment. further more, all XSET players and coach said it was completely riots decision, and they all tweeted GG's when the game ended. I find it super unlikely that it was XSET who complained about it.

its obvious the main reason they replayed the round was because the observer had a perfect view on what happened. if the observer wasn't in the absolute perfect position, then this would've never happened. because everyone saw it, riot either had to say that the turrets behavior was intended, or say that it is a bug but didn't affect the round (debatable) or say it wasn't intended, follow their rulebook and replay the match. I do agree though we're simply on the outside looking in

not sure how someone at riot looked at chamber and said "yeah this is fair and balanced, push the update"

the replay definitely only happened because the observer got essentially a perfect view of what happened. guaranteed if observer was looking through a players pov replay never would've happened

cryo didn't give melser a fist bump because there was miscommunication between them apparently - cryo thought he had to go to his side instead of the fist bump

nvm im stupid and misinterpreted what u said but if riot called it a bug its a bug, no matter how long its been in the game

they obviously didn't see the bug because they got misled into thinking someone was heaven

why would XSET forfeit? they were just informed their tournament run was ended because of a bug in the final round that likely led to them losing

if he didn't know it wasn't XSETs decision I would've expected to see him say "no hate to XSET" or something similar but I have yet to see anything like that. I agree that its a messy situation though

??? the fact fracture was a similar case definitely validates this now. there wasn't any good reason to remove pearl from champions. the fact that it was the same for fracture shows precedent in how new maps are treated

Yes there really isn’t a reason to say it shouldn’t, same concept with fracture. All teams had equal time to practice it

Both people on xset who made the tech pause abuse allegations quickly walked them back and apologized as those comments were made in the heat of the moment. It’s truly unfortunate that happened yesterday since imo reaction would be far different if the tech pause stuff didn’t happen. Either way, they said they didn’t complain and we should take their word for it unless riot releases something different

He had zero right to be angry at XSET, who both didn’t initiate the replay and was told the final round was swayed out of their favor due to a bug. Why does XSET deserve hate?

Then why take it out on XSET?

XSET accepted the first result…. riot initiated the replay

Fair enough lol

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no way ur actually watching my sister is my ex or whatever its called

yes

exactly what I said. u right

that otherwise would have resulted in a possible XSET win**

except.... it is sensible? not really sure what you're trying to say, but riot evidently decided that the turret bug had the potential to swing the round into a XSET win if it hadn't happened, regardless of what actually would have happened. I brung up the 5 players falling off the map because they're both logically and sensibly the same concept - in both rounds, a bug occurred that would have resulted in a possible XSET win

irrelevant - the same logic applies. 5 people falling out the map would result in the round loss for XSET, and riot decided that the turret bug had likely swung the round out of XSET's favor by providing misinformation, also resulting in the round loss for XSET, so they decided to do a replay

not sure why im getting downvoted for this... if riot called it a bug and replayed the match then that means its a bug, regardless of how long it's been in the game. being in the game forever doesnt mean its not a bug

if all of the XSET players fell out of the map simultaneously due to a bug, should the round not be reset, even though by your logic FPX had nothing to do with it? the same logic applies here

how the turret works =/= how its supposed to work

I have to agree this is a W fpx fan opinion glad to see some braincells are still active around here

cant tell if ur trolling or not. literally every region does this + fpx players were pretty rude on twitter to XSET for a decision they didn't decide on

LMFAO

u think they would refuse to replay if a bug caused them to lose?

wouldve been super bad if XSET won and fpx got send home. even though I really wish XSET its better that they lost

no one knows who reported the bug, just as likely that a riot employee saw it and raised concerns. wait to trash on XSET until we know who called it

LMFAOOOOOO

true

u right

they thought they had to face heaven + sprayed smoke because they thought they couldn't peek