are they keeping ban?

i didnt want a lot of vitality in regional matchups other than playoffs, was he particularly good at igl or like good enough for the team to do well

top 5 apac isnt that big of a stretch but a decent bit would have to go right

like im a big zest lover and sscary is goated but unless theyre bringing juicy into t1 or sum i dont think the other two are good enough to hold their own weight in that team

prx, geng, drx, talon after being developed, and then maybe them along with an rrq or spg or sum

is it confirmed cender?

then ig its fine, but like i dont wanna see another 'superteam' like nrg where they have a mid igl and everything collapses or the 2023 sen roster where people come from different backgrounds (less in this case) and the igling isnt up to par even tho the player caliber is clearly there (dephh in sen)

pedo defender kk remind me to never take your opinion seriously again

or they win 2 internationals this year

sayf finally gets to be free of duelist like he always wanted to be because derke takes it from him
less gets a good team around him and an org that actually wants to invest in the game and not sell their players and pray saadhak is good enough to hard carry
who else is on this team bruh

also sayf vs less could = death after the first tourney if they dont make it

EDIT WAIT THEY FUCKING HAVE TREXX TOO WTF THIS TEAM IS NUTS

all they need is a good eu igl and...
wait

edit highkey my bad didnt know cenders game

oh no the jett instalock can't go 1/13

In all seriousness:
Riot probably just wanted to make your teammates' day better!

what is valorant sim

Actually might have been the most braindead thing to do there how r u pushing a brim when you can just wait and then swing him like you dont need to feed bril ult

Still an insane fkin game n series ggwp

wait what is this rumor

vit picked up less? doesn't he not know english

1. pheonix LOL
2. u so right get my boy back on initiator

ew no

nrg was shit in stage 1 and 2 fart

12-5👻👻👻👻

type shit

diddy never dies o7

DAMN

HE COOKING

u right

he be spitting about somehtijng alright

Guys it works so well look:

Diddy never dies
When the kids are calling you
Can you hear them screaming out your name?
Diddy never dies
They become a part of you
Every time you bleed for reaching greatness
Relentless you survive
They never lose hope when everything's cold
And the kids are near
It's deep in their bones, they'll run into oil
When the fire is fierce
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause

Diddy never dies
When the kids are calling you (the kids are calling you)
Can you hear them screaming out your name?
Diddy never dies
They become a part of you (they become a part of you)
Every time you bleed for reaching greatness
Diddy never dies
He's written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all of his life
When baby oil's lost, they pick up their hearts
And avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm
Just to touch a kid
Oh, pick the kids up, 'cause
Diddy never dies
etc etc

valid valid valid

westjett is andrew tate for valoincels get him out

and dr diddy respect needs that shit

idk about TES, like 369 is ridiculous and all but if G2 fix their early phase of the games they could become a sneaky contender

also apparently LNG is coming with Scout so maybe they can piece something together but also its LNG and we all remember what happened last year LOL

t1 is going out top 8 even tho i love them because theres no way faker with this laning phase and oner in this form are doing anything different than that

im going to go see a semifinals match in Paris so HOPEFULLY

geng vs blg semifinals the day i go
hle vs t1 (please faker and oner come back into form)
and badaboom badabing 2 huge mega bangers

and chovy takes it all cuz he deserves it

aspas apparently wants to go to asia, so the only org that I see Aspas going to that reasonably has a chance to win there is T1, no? They obviously have the money, which is a big limiter for the asian teams, as teams like Secret or Talon probably don't have the money for the Lev buyout.

What are some potential T1 rosters with Aspas? Idk who they're keeping from last year but this could bang if they do it correctly

1. I play league you should quit
2. Worlds 2024 gonna be a movie
3. Viper is the goat

I hope juicy gets picked up, sad that he couldn't get his spot last year from Bleed

maybe they pick him up and bring him back?

HOLY FUCK MAN I JSUT JOINED STREAM THAT KJ CLUTCH WAS NUTSSSSSS

i love racism on vee ell arr when a region has players who play bad

i mean

no saadhak = no win

cant see loud doing better than top 5-6 at best and thats if they all get in form and go insane

maybe sneak up to a international spot if caua pancada tuyz go nuts but pancada seemed out of it + no less hyper carry

i love my favorite edward gaming coach potter

well well well

kaajak is not a snake at all

from his POV:

the most successful EU team of all time, with 4 of their members from one of the best teams ever decided they wanted to drop their star duelist, and they wanted HIM. Do you even understand how fucking crazy it is when FNATIC asks for you? When FNATIC knocks, it's a different kind of knock, one with insane money, promise of success, and legit chances to win international events.

Anyone calling him a snake or a rat is out of their damn mind if they wouldn't do the exact same thing in his position

praise god we are finally getting the king back

who cares if he's carried by chamber most fun agent to watch in the game when he's good

fnatic also had it easier with lockin/ all of 2023, which i think was the easiest chance a team will ever have to do the golden road, as it only makes there 4 trophies to win rather than 6

i just want dsg in franchising because having content creator orgs become sustainable should be a goal throughout all of esports, with everyone leaving the valorant scene these guys are how we are gonna get our next generation of sustainability because of how much money theyre dumping to try to get their team to that level

stopped reading at drop zekken

i would say this is AWESOME

and then i realize that everyone in kc got kicked or leaving...

fart

south north america = mexico?

i mean its probably quite expensive to live in mexico city my guy highkey

why are we saying 5th like we know who the 4th is bruh

What happened here, tweet is deleted

Based on comments I assume its something related to beef being served to a Hindu?

brother eugh

I think Chron has talked about how Riot fucked them over vs KRU and made them play on like very little to no sleep, but also Acend is the one with the trophy so does it matter?

My main thing is that all of 2021 is plumber era and that single elim tournaments are bullshit and should be counted as lesser
WHY THE FUCK DID WE MAKE REJKYAVIC A DOUBLE ELIM BRACKET AND THEN RUIN BERLIN AND CHAMPIONS?????

I don't believe any match is a 100% loss, not even mibr vs prime geng

but I believe a Gambit, the best team of 2021, with proper rest before the biggest grand finals of their lives, would have won that match

But also Acend won champs 2021 so does my opinion really matter? No

is it confirmed?

100% agree, which just further proves how we need to have a reason for orgs to invest before the teams start to qualify for ascension/the split before. If we have Premier teams that made it off of pure skill and vibes then them being denied the opportunity to prove themselves on the biggest stage at LAN because the system is meant to be "unstable" is pure bullshit and goes against the whole spirit of Tier 2 esports

So I agree that it is keeping the best orgs in the business, and the worst/least profitable orgs are leaving the scene, but I don't think this is a good thing. The main reason I don't like the idea of having orgs that can't invest/won't invest into valorant into the league is because we simply can't afford less orgs in the league. The game is not large enough like the Premier League where T2 orgs/clubs will have their own backing and are able to stand up by themselves through just fan passion, and along with that, in many regions the teams are so separated (eu having their own league for each country), which just splits up viewers even more. Even though it is good that only the orgs that are investing for valorant are staying, my main concern is that eventually everyone will leave and just let Premier teams come and try their hand, and orgs will pick up whoever is the best premier team and try to save as much money as possible.

To talk about your academy team point, I don't know about BR/LATAM, but for NA (IMO) the academy teams aren't going to be good for the league, because not a single org will want to try to pick one up. Why would an org like C9 who is barely scraping by, and is actually starting to earn a profit as an org due to penny pinching (yay/dropping their 2023 roster), or EG who literally dropped fkin everyone on the best team at the end of 2023, want to spend money on an academy team. The only teams I can potentially see doing an academy team system are SEN (because they might have the money to), 100T (they also might have the money to, but also Nadeshot has been talking about how they are losing some money before), and NRG (the team that dropped the LCS team that made it to quarterfinals before losing to the eventual LOL Worlds Finalists). Although it seems like a good idea in concept, I don't see why any org would want to invest in it without some sort of REAL incentive.

(Also East Coast vs West Coast isn't a thing in Valorant because of every NA org being from the West Coast, and most americans/canadians root for America/Canada, not their specific area)

I don't think viewership would solve this issue though, as even if we saw viewership rise as a whole, there's no way for the orgs to take that viewership and turn it into a sustainable cash flow. The way that riot is combatting this problem of a sustainable cash flow this year was through team skins + champs skins, which looked to be REALLY effective! Most people following esports aren't really going to be willing to pay 100 dollars for a jersey of a team they like, much less a tier 2 team that they've barely heard of.

Imo riot should lean into using Valorant the game as a way to sustain Tier 2 orgs, and if we see the classic get used again for VCT Tier 1 gun skins, riot could try to make Americas/Europe/China/Pacific Tier 2 pistol skins like the ghost, where they would be similar to the Lockin knife variants, but instead provide money to the Tier 2 leagues.

You could take this a step further, and in order to incentivize orgs to not just buy out rosters, give an extra cut of the proceeds to orgs who stay in the system for longer, allowing for orgs to be more sustainable and give players some more money to work with.

idk about f1, but I feel like something riot could do is move around their esports budget (at least for americas this is doable), and try to provide a base salary to all orgs invested in tier 2 year round, to try to incentivize orgs to stay in and not try to hawk rosters once they get good

especially with the new December system where it seems to me who hasn't looked too deep into it that there's no reason for orgs to invest into, and they should just drop their rosters

there is no point

you leave, come back before ascension, drop a bag on the best roster, hope they win and carry you to tier 1 and riot accepts you

if not, you leave the system, don't pay people for months, and try again next year

shut up fart

dogshit user who doesn't understand his own org would drop everyone and leave the moment they could like they did to dhokla and co

and I want NRG to win

I just want to understand what Leo Faria was thinking when he and his team made this ascension system.

As a Tier 2 program, everyone can agree that there are not enough benefits for orgs to invest in, as we see from Acend leaving the Tier 2 system due to (I assume) concerns with money. The only TRUE reason that teams invest into Valorant Tier 2 is for a hope and a prayer that they will field the best team that their entire region has seen, and end up becoming ascended into Tier 1, where, I am going to admit, the rewards are INSANE for every org who gets into the system. However, this creates the dynamic of a massive carrot on a stick, which orgs are starting to wise up to, and are starting to leave because of how low the rewards are for every org who doesn't get ascended, causing many orgs to just leave Valorant.

Now, with the aspect of Tier 3 coming in, and the Premier system becoming a real thing, the entire system is going to start to fold in on itself. Leo Faria himself has said many times in many words that "We don't want slots in Valorant to be getting bought by orgs, we want the orgs to invest and earn the spot themselves with their old roster."

HOWEVER

With what happened with the Guard, we are going to eventually end up seeing orgs just stay out of Valorant until there is a proven roster, then buy that org for a tournament or two in the hope that they might win, then remove their investment. Now that we got the ruling that players who do not have an org can choose an org themselves to represent them, (G2 taking the place of TGRD), there is LITERALLY no reason for teams to invest in a team in Tier 2 before the 2nd stage of Valorant Tier 2, after we see what teams are actually good (see DarkZero/TTR).

Basically, Leo Faria and co's system of "We are going to disincentivize people buying spots in Valorant Tier 1" I believe will lead to:

1. Most purely profit based orgs (not DSG/MXS who have passion in their reason for investing) not investing in teams until the tournaments that they prove themselves in, or potentially even at or after Ascension.
2. If a team from Premier ends up winning Ascension, then an org will have effectively "bought" their spot into Tier 1 Valorant, rendering this entire system useless
3. Teams immediately dropping rosters after they fail (OXG), and letting the rosters play without a salary before coming back into the scene to try to swoop up a spot.

What is the upside to this system. Orgs will end up "buying" a spot in ascension even with the system they made to try to stop this effect, orgs will drop the scene due to very little incentives, players will have very minimal salaries through the entire year until an org picks them back up if they prove themselves, and the quality of the game will go down due to less and less potential pros finding it viable to actually even try to pursue a career in Valorant.

This is a very Americas centric post, because I don't have much knowledge on other systems, but I do hear that Europe's system is really weird and Pacific is always hating Jake Sin (the organizer guy) for their Tier 2 system, so please fill in any gaps I would have had with examples or situations from Pacific, Europe, and China's Tier 2 system, as I am SURE there are more examples to back these ideas up. Please Leo Faria change something.

guys i think we found the GE manager for the past 2 years