stellar disrespect will NOT be tolerated

he was making a play to win the round, if ethan sets up to wide peek him on the plant then he has a timing to kill skuba and run to b and just ace the round

idk why he gambled, probably shouldn't have, but it was not some brain damaged int

thenutoriousPRO
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and 0 stars has to be a war crime

0/8

0/8, nt try again

100t was up 9-3 from zander aiming, cryo and eeiu duo going crazy
nrg on attack is taking good timings to catch 100t off guard, coming back now

fellow xset flair <3

eeiu and cryo moving like baby zekken and tenz

i see champs in sight

None, there is no forum

If you want to check matches, use liquidpedia or lolesports.com, they also have spoiler free match vods if you don't watch with a co-streamer

aspiss 🥀

🥀

Verno the only reason mibr even won a round at toronto 🥀

Aspas manages to play entry characters and still bait his entire team fucking shitter thats why he's the worst player in toronto farming community support from shit americas teams statpadding LMAOOO

Asspiss where XD last alive every time too busy baiting to shoot back SGA ass player XDDDD

"Greatest igl of all time" that won 1 champs trophy with one of the best coaches in the game

Lmao nt with the flair + flag
4/8 believeable

Who is igling then, zander cannot actually be the replacement

Roles make 0 fucking sense, he is literally a cryo replacement roles wise but just worse in every way

L3KA
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Last post: July 18, 2025 at 9:26 AM
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translation: you're braindead LMAO

to play in the lck on a contender org, yeah, you do have to be middle of the pack at least

but he is a good player i hope he goes to like KT or Nongshim and upgrades them

sen is not good bro, we will never win a trophy with narrate and john on initiator

smash lovers are delusional, he's not even a top 5 adc in lck

guma, viper, ruler, aiming, diable all clear smash, bro played well for a bit but its not comparable to the best adc in the world and the best botlane duo in the world

if he was on any other org i'd say give him a chance

actual cap

XSET was a round away from taking down FPX, and matched up well into DRX, could have easily taken 3rd if a couple things fell our way
NRG 23 was literally half a second away from taking down the team that should have won Lock//In if the greatest choke job in history didn't happen
G2 2024 literally placed top 3 at an international??? and beat Heretics earlier in that same tournament???
Sen 2025 doesn't look good rn yes i agree

https://imgur.com/a/5R4V1EC

heretics hater stops dickriding ewc when its convinient for him

"Groups" and its randomized bullshit with BO1s

vro, if you're gonna say this, at least be correct (i dislike G2)

Americas Stage 2
Americas Stage 1

Yes! Correct :)
Champs Berlin not being a Double elim made it ridiculously dumb, Acend never had a chance to beat Gambit after looking good

Champs 21 was just a mickey all around, especially with the sleep deprivation bullshit Gambit had to go through

Lock/In was mickey as fuck for the teams that lost before top 4, as we have seen so many teams lose once, fix their mistakes, and go on an insane run, including NRG's robbery of being 8th even though they would have beat NAVI or DRX in the form they were in!

Single Elimination tournaments are always Mickey in Val no matter what because of how many teams have proven time and time again that one loss can lead into a winning streak that leads into winning the entire tournament

Also best of 1s LMAO

"hot take" and its just the general opinion circulating throughout valorant right now

tenz could
cned is playing in tier 2 currently, could play
scream needs to stop his igl fantasy and hed be insane as a senti or something
pati idk enough about
sacy, ehhhh hes incredible as a teammate and for the culture but aim wise was starting to slip near the end of 2024, and even tho he had some insane clutches (gekko 1v4 on sunset), he might not be good enough aim wise anymore
marved needs a mental coach and instantly yes
sinatraa is a rivals player vro he left ts a long time ago
demon1 needs to fix his roles, he is such a weird player for any team to pick up because they have to work around his pool
leo yeah duh

at champs 24 is the closest argument i could possibly see, i think chichoo + kk + all of edg didnt really play like the best players until they were in that sen game, could say that aspas was the best before then

ok gamergirl

if i'm 100t i am trying my hardest to make sure EG doesn't have a reason to sign potter next year and then trying to replicate eg 2023

i think solution 9 should instead be:
cryo
c0m
eeiu
boostio
jawg (is not coming so u need a replacement and if we have potter then lowkey i think she could fix asuna to fill this role)
potter
zikz

you weren't familiar with the game of the best jungler the west has produced in the past 5 years?

iykyk --> ick yick

zekken
cryo (freed from jail)
johnqt
bang
eeiu (freed from jail)

xset boys back together, 100t 2024 back together, no mental issues (cough narrate cough), john can be on init if he really fuckin wants because we just play perma cryo chamber, and ez win

Have we considered kap is lowkey throwing shit at the wall just to try it cuz they care more about saving strats and not showing off comps

Yall... you watched a best of 1, one of the most fraudulent formats ever, saw sen on one of their worst (imo) maps, with a new comp, and thought they'd do good against an international level team in BBL?

This tournament doesn't matter, chillax and if they lose in a bo3 format in americas main stage then we can start hitting the panic button. I will not let my reactions about this team be determined by a bo1, and i suggest you do so as well

"Superteam" and theres asuna and zander

xset

"major"
https://imgur.com/a/2678hSf

by that logic g2 has no worth, loud 2023 has no worth, heretics have no worth, mako has no worth

meteor on top, only player with 2 trophies and 2 mvps
mako next if u think of all time, consistently jailed but was the best smokes in the world for multiple time periods, just cant get international success because of the rosters he's on
kk, mvpd an international, was really good and finally broke through, but after the break through they didn't keep that level of success even when bringing the same roster into 2025, missed toronto
saadhak, champs trophy + lock in finals + champs top 3 to the eventual winners, took down the unbeatable fnatic twice in one bracket and sent them home, and brought a completely new loud to an international in 2024
zellsis 5th, trophy but not the best fragger, good for team culture but even on V1 he was never the best player on his team

if i was a forsaken advocate (i think alfa > forsaken), my argument would be:
forsaken has played in a system with benkai, then transitioned into a system without an igl, then transitioned into a new team with monyet, then transitioned into igling all within the same team, whereas alfa has played sentinel his entire career, and has not switched in his system massively other than playing duelist in a very minimal capacity where he's not really changing how he's playing, since he's 2nd entry anyways on haven at least

he is obviously comparing skill in game when making this list, look at the names

cryo "redemption" 💔💔💔

yall do not know ball if u think he needs redemption, he's just jailed. was top 4 at an international when his team wasn't crypto throwing, and still looks insane even when zander asuna and boostio are throwing games

yeah, but you can't mix and match timelines, so i think the best optic ever looked was at iceland with a 80% yay smurfing on everyone + marved playing like iceman

people coming back and realizing yay was 1v5ing that tournament and took his team to an international final is so funny

when people say champs optic was prime optic they genuinely don't know what they're saying lmao, it was just a yay trying to hard carry when his teammates were doing decent at best

watch back iceland and compare vic crashies and marved to champs and its so insane the difference there was, if optic had those 3 playing at an iceland level they were winning 2 trophies that year (still almost took it to a map 5 if crashies doesnt miss the right click)

a devil's advocate case for every player on that list

leo - had 1.2 years of actual dominance (2023-2024 regionally), the only trophies he won were on one meta, never achieved anything internationally away from fnatic and doesn't even have the best peak of all time (yay)
chronicle - won 1 trophy in a plumber era where he wasn't the best on his team, and then fell off in 2022. In 2023 he was the worst player on that team not named boaster when winning
alfa - has never played in a system that's not boasters, only had 2 years of dominance and recently came back to do good in a final where he lost
t3xture - shouldn't have to make a devil's advocate case here, he just doesn't have the longevity to match forsaken
spring - shouldn't have to make a devil's advocate case here, he just doesn't have the longevity to match forsaken
YOU - shouldn't have to make a devil's advocate case here, he just doesn't have the longevity to match forsaken
leaf - never achieved real international success outside g2 (c9 doesnt count, that team got blasted at champs), hasn't even won a trophy
kk - had one incredible run at champs where he looked like the best player in the world for 4 matches, can't match the longevity of forsaken
chichoo - had one incredible run at champs where he looked like the 2nd best player in the world for 4 matches, can't match the longevity of forsaken
trent - he was only really good for 1 regional split in 2022, in 2024-2025 he looks good but the longevity forsaken has is not matched + no trophies

again, i'm not saying i agree (putting forsaken above alfa or chron is a war crime), but if you're looking in the sense of a "greatest" of all time list, then this is the arguments i can think of

vlr users try to actually watch the episode and consider the reasoning of the list challenge (impossible)

same guy who'll say nats is in the top 10 LOL